Prediction Changes vs Brisbane

[baby back Bibs]

what if cey has a bog on saturday night?

Would hope for his sake it was pre-game.

 

[Paladin]

Pods was asked about resting more players next week and he said there wouldn't be more resting as no one else needed it.

Also said they've been trying to time the McGovern rest for the last month. In a way it was good timing that Tex copped the ankle, otherwise Gov would have been gone after Geelong and after that performance it would have been seen as being dropped.

It also allowed Pyke to show faith in him and allowed Gov to respond which he did. Now he gets a rest and will be back against Freo, there is no chance we won't play him in his home state. Craig would have but not Don.

Worked out very well for Shooter. If he was rested after his shocker against the pussycats he would of been feeling very down about himself. Now he gets to freshen up and look forward to going home in great form and feeling good about fronting up against the dockers.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Gotta love this attitude.

DABM (and others) have a stereotype which says that DMac is constantly ragdolled and incapable of laying a tackle. Stats, as recorded by Champion Data, reveal that he's actually one of the most prolific tacklers at the club. With 4.2 tackles per game, he actually has 7th highest average for tackles per game all season. The 4 tackles he laid against Essendon makes him equal 5th highest for that game. This directly contradicts the stereotype.

Solution: Don't at any costs admit that you're wrong, and that the stereotype is incorrect. Instead, change the definition of a tackle, to something you find more palatable and which (you hope) would result in Dmac having a lower tackle count, thus allowing you to argue that your (completely bogus) stereotype is actually correct.

Good grief.. What a load of bollocks.

See ..what i like is that you backup your POV with a rationale argument ......the counter argument is ....."he's shit" ....what does that say, everything

 

[boffo]

This game is a gimme so smart to rest anyone who needs it.

The critical selection will be next week. That should tell us the team the selectors want to take into the finals, it should be our strongest available line up. Firstly, we should settle and maintain this team for the last 3 games. Also, we should not take Freo (away and with Sandilands back), Port or WCE lightly.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ill get in early...

Changes v Freo:

In:
McGovern, Thompson, (Jacobs if fit)

Out:
CEY, whoever plays worse out of Mackay or Seed, (ROB if Jacobs fit)

Imo, Douglas may get managed next week.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Was needing a bodily rest but had to grin and bear it when Tex went down. Good thing to rest after kicking 4 though, straight back in V Freo. Oh well Wayne's-World , my outside the square call if Tex returned (Dougie out) was a bit off. But my strong commitment to Seed and Dmac playing has come to fruition.

Great that the club rested McGovern after a "high" game, rather than the previous "Low" game ......He'll now have the week off, probably travelling with the team, feeling great about himself and his security in the team

 

[WaynesWorld19]

They're not like for like but they can feasibly be shuffled into the team instead of him.

I don't like the experience argument, I think this is a very dangerous assumption to make. Mackay was, without doubt, a liability in the Hawks semi final last year. Absolutely no doubt. If someone like Milera had been there instead, would we have lost structure - yes I know he wasn't on our list yet but you see my point.

Experience isn't intrinsically a good thing. It is normally a good thing because usually only good players keep getting games. Average ones get left behind. So experience isn't the reason Mackay got all these games.

I understand your point ....what i was referring to was, how much inexperience do you have within your team ......we currently have 8 players under 50 games ......need to keep the balance right

 

[Elite Crow]

Great that the club rested McGovern after a "high" game, rather than the previous "Low" game ......He'll now have the week off, probably travelling with the team, feeling great about himself and his security in the team

Well this post is interesting, you said the other day I had nothing interesting to say ever and yet this post pretty much repeats what I posted earlier.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

7th highest for tackles is shit.

The highest tacklers are basically all midfielders, and Mackay is a mid, so he'd be behind 6 other midfielders at tackling: practically the entire midfield.

He's also third highest for pressure acts. So this indicates his pressure doesn't usually translate into tackles, unlike our other players.

That's utter rubbish .....most tackling nowdays is press related in forward 50 ....and defenders have always been higher tacklers ......twisting things because you don't like the results

You're high on stats ......backup your argument

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Maybe we're wrong and the player knocked over by the football and brutalised by 70kg schoolkid Darcy Parish actually lays bone crunching tackles when we're not watching

You do realize a game lasts longer than 15 seconds ......100 minutes last i heard

How about stop focussing on one play that i can offer a rebuttal of another 20 similar incidents in the game you've chosen not to talk about in your bias

You're carrying on like a kid

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So how would you explain the discrepancy between his average tackles and average pressure acts? Surely someone who applies a lot of pressure would also tackle a lot

Hawthorn focusses on pressure acts to force turnovers from which they launch counter attacks .......why that over tackles, i can only assume it's because tackles often don't stop chains of play or force as many turnovers

 

[Jack is Back]

I am shocked, confused, bewildered, stunned, surprised, baffled, perplexed and discombobulated.

How did CEY pole vault over the travelling emergency? I have never heard of such an inconceivable notion.

There's only one possible explanation.

They've lost the BLOODY LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GreyCrow]

Great that the club rested McGovern after a "high" game, rather than the previous "Low" game ......He'll now have the week off, probably travelling with the team, feeling great about himself and his security in the team

All the way to Adelaide??

 

[Sam_Malone]

Would hope for his sake it was pre-game.

Maybe he shouldn't wipe. Then no one will go near him and he become best on...

 

[Danger Zone]

Great selections. Gotta reward guys in form like CEY and ROB otherwise it sends a terrible message to the guys busting their ass in the SANFL.
Thommo and Gov both needed a rest and this week was the time to do it. Glad that Gov had a good game last week so it's obvious he is being rested and not omitted on form.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Nice post.

Wrong, but a nice post.

Great counter argument to a well thought out post .......how many seconds did you think about this response ........word-smithing at its best

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I do find it interesting that Macaky's pressure acts are high, so I actually looked up what a pressure act is. Apparently it's one of these things:

• Corralling (Opponent in the area, but only guarding space, not closing in)
• Closing (Opponent in the area and approaching the ball-carrier)
• Chasing (Opponent closing in from behind or forcing a player on the run to kick without steadying)
• Physical contact on a player that's not a tackle
• Actual tackles
• Smothers

I imagine Mackay rates highly for coralling, closing, chasing and non-tackle physical contact. In fact he would have to, as that would explain the low tackle count relative to his pressure act count. Same with Douglas.

I also discovered that contested possessions (usually a measure of how "outside" a player is) don't correspond well to pressure acts. There is no indication a player with fewer contested possessions will have fewer pressure acts. The correlation is better for tackles, but not great either.

In other words ....you haven't a clue what's going on

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

You do realize a game lasts longer than 15 seconds ......100 minutes last i heard

How about stop focussing on one play that i can offer a rebuttal of another 20 similar incidents in the game you've chosen not to talk about in your bias

You're carrying on like a kid

Alright, focus on last year's semi final instead.

I'm confident Pyke knows and Mackay won't be in our 22 by finals time (injuries pending). Time will tell.

 

[Crow Envy]

That's utter rubbish .....most tackling nowdays is press related in forward 50 ....and defenders have always been higher tacklers ......twisting things because you don't like the results

You're high on stats ......backup your argument

Do you have anything to backup your claim that defenders have always been higher tacklers?

Because Luke Brown is our highest ranked defender at 11th and our defence as a whole tackle count is quite low.

And this has always been the case.

Perhaps you owe Scorpus an apology?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This is bullshit on both counts.

Seedsman needed gametime coming back from injury thats why dmac was the travelling emergency no pecking order can be read into that.

Seedsman played a much better game against Essendon - Mackay made a woeful contribution.

Your pecking order rubbish has been wrong every game so far this year cant see you getting it right this time

Flat out WRONG !

 

[Tex200]

In other words ....you haven't a clue what's going on

Hang on, you've just bagged KE for giving little thought to a response and the very next post you come up with this?

Can't have it both ways

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Um what Smith has been a defender all year. Try tuning in mate.

No he hasn't .....keep up please

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Hang on, you've just bagged KE for giving little thought to a response and the very next post you come up with this?

Can't have it both ways

When you've repeated your position and rationale umpteen times ......do you want me to keep posting the same response over and over again ?

 

[Crow Envy]

In other words ....you haven't a clue what's going on

Drugs Are Bad Mackay? is personal sniping okay tonight?

 

[Paladin]

No he hasn't .....keep up please

Oh really where has Smith been playing? Next minute you will be telling me Douglas has been playing in the midfield.