Preview Changes vs Sydney

[Mattrox]

I tend to agree that no-one knows how overworked the host of Footy Classified & the Footy Show is.

Or did you mean Fremantle's coach, Mr Rox?

Auto correct smart fella

 

[Tex200]

I was just saying lots of posters needlessly get themselves worked up by assuming the club is always making the wrong decision. Reading that thread always gives a little perspective before posting.

I am also not saying my opinion is always right. But I also acknowledge I don't have all the info the club has. I would rather Lyons than Porps but they are not going to make 4 or 5 changes. Something has to give at some stage.

So you think that SANFL football is just as intense as AFL? And that game in the SANFL wouldn't allow a player a slight freshen up whilst still maintaining fitness? Or they might ask Glenelg to only play him 70% game time to manage him like Crouch at Westies?

Who's talking about 4-5 changes.

McKernan for Martin - tick
Hendo for Brown ( inj ) - tick
Crouch for ?????

3 changes. It's nothing to do with too many changes. It's got to do with young players out performing senior players but being omitted . And let's call a spade a spade... It's not resting or general soreness...it's omission.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Who's talking about 4-5 changes.

McKernan for Martin - tick
Hendo for Brown ( inj ) - tick
Crouch for ?????

3 changes. It's nothing to do with too many changes. It's got to do with young players out performing senior players but being omitted . And let's call a spade a spade... It's not resting or general soreness...it's omission.

I agree with your point and as much as Lyons getting dropped annoyed me, dropping Porps was never going to save Jarrod Lyons.

SMACK for Martin was structural
Hendo for the Injured Brown (I suspect) was to allow Dangerfield to move back to the midfield
and Crouch for Lyons was one midfielder for another. Straight swap.

Lyons can not play as a lead up marking forward - that's not how he plays the game, therefore dropping Jason Porplizia would have placed way to much pressure on the structure of the team.

For Lyons to stay in the team, David MacKay would have had to drop out and I'm still not counting that ever. Even after he has been passed fit to play.

With Henderson coming in, either him or Porps will start as the sub.

 

[Mattrox]

Who's talking about 4-5 changes.

McKernan for Martin - tick
Hendo for Brown ( inj ) - tick
Crouch for ?????

3 changes. It's nothing to do with too many changes. It's got to do with young players out performing senior players but being omitted . And let's call a spade a spade... It's not resting or general soreness...it's omission.

My original point was discussing the calls for Porps and Reilly to be dropped as well as Mackay. Then on top Hendo and Crouch in, with the possibility of Thommo being an out as well.

Rotation happens.

 

[King Elvis]

Porps can't play as a lead up forward either.


Reputation and experience is meaningless - select on form.

Our kids are better than our incumbents.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Reputation and experience is meaningless - select on form.

Well that's not right.

 

[jenny61_99]

Porps can't play as a lead up forward either.


Reputation and experience is meaningless - select on form.

Our kids are better than our incumbents.

No, but he can play as an impact sub. I believe this is his role for the remainder of his career.

 

[Bicks]

Porps can't play as a lead up forward either.

Disagree with this statement big time...

That is exactly what he does best!!!

 

[BACCS]

SERIOUSLY?

Porps was absolutely atrocious and watching him closely while at the game his work rate was nothing short of pathetic, and I had Lyons in our best 8 last week. His clearance work was absolutely awesome. One of the better 18 possession games from a midfielder I can recall.

Oh of course it was, one for the ages. Must be why the coaches dropped him then and Porps stayed in.

 

[Tex200]

I agree with your point and as much as Lyons getting dropped annoyed me, dropping Porps was never going to save Jarrod Lyons.

SMACK for Martin was structural
Hendo for the Injured Brown (I suspect) was to allow Dangerfield to move back to the midfield
and Crouch for Lyons was one midfielder for another. Straight swap.

Lyons can not play as a lead up marking forward - that's not how he plays the game, therefore dropping Jason Porplizia would have placed way to much pressure on the structure of the team.

For Lyons to stay in the team, David MacKay would have had to drop out and I'm still not counting that ever. Even after he has been passed fit to play.

With Henderson coming in, either him or Porps will start as the sub.

I understand your point but disagree. Henderson could have covered Porps spot and Dangers forward spot could be any of the mids rotating through . Or keep Porps and drop MacKay, straight swap for crouch.

Whichever way you carve it up Lyons didn't deserve to be dropped when comparing his output with some senior players.

 

[BACCS]

Who gives a shit about age? Players in form deserve to be in the 22. Lyons is in fantastic form. Porps isn't. I couldn't give a toss if Lyons is 18, 21 or 30. Someone playing like he is at present should be in the team over someone playing like Porplyzia. Its not rocket science. And it certainly isn't a 'short term expense' to pick a bloke who is in better form than another bloke.

Lyons has been in our best dozen in the last month, screw the best 22. This is why folks are upset.

According to who? The lynch mob on the Adelaide board on BF? Haha, don't make me laugh. If you really do believe this though, I look forward to a detailed post of the past month, going into extensive detail about each player during that time which shows Lyons is in the top dozen. He may be, I'll be interested to see the proof though.

Or maybe you could go and have a chat to Sando and voice your frustrations? Send him an email through the club?

 

[Tex200]

Oh of course it was, one for the ages. Must be why the coaches dropped him then and Porps stayed in.

It's great your happy that we are one of the 3 worse performed teams over the last 15 years. Don't be surprised that some don't think that's good enough

 

[Dewy006]

Disagree with this statement big time...

That is exactly what he does best!!!

Did we hop in a time machine and get transported back to 2009? King is alluding to the fact that THIS season, Porp's hasn't been doing anything particularly well, let alone being a great lead up target, and I cant get on board the whole "Specialist Sub" role, he cant just be relied upon to play 1 to 1 and a half solid quarters of footy, what if we get an injury in the first 5 mins? With what Porps has shown this year, he is not best 22 on current form.

 

[Mattrox]

It's great your happy that we are one of the 3 worse performed teams over the last 15 years. Don't be surprised that some don't think that's good enough

Based on?

 

[Mattrox]

Our kids are better than our incumbents.

They WILL be better next year than the incumbents have been thus far.

 

[Tex200]

Based on?

Grand final appearances . My own criteria, but I feel it's an important measure.

Edit: 15 years probably takes us past our last flag in 98. I should say 14 years, or since our last appearance. Whatever....it's a crap record.

 

[Bicks]

It's great your happy that we are one of the 3 worse performed teams over the last 15 years. Don't be surprised that some don't think that's good enough

Or conversely the equal 3rd most successful in the last 16 years for most premierships won.

 

[Tex200]

Or conversely the equal 3rd most successful in the last 16 years for most premierships won.

Lol... Touché

 

[huludicidal]

According to who? The lynch mob on the Adelaide board on BF? Haha, don't make me laugh. If you really do believe this though, I look forward to a detailed post of the past month, going into extensive detail about each player during that time which shows Lyons is in the top dozen. He may be, I'll be interested to see the proof though.

Or maybe you could go and have a chat to Sando and voice your frustrations? Send him an email through the club?

Get off your high horse you clown, at least I actually have an opinion and don't just blindly defend everything the club does. Oh that's right, you thought porps game last week was on par with Lyons. Anyone actually paying attention didnt think that at all. I guarantee the coach recognized that porps was woeful, but chose to retain him for structural reasons. That may prove to be a correct call, buy I disagree with it, and I'm allowed to.

As for the 'lynch mob' comment, we basically all love sando so that's a load of crap. Doesnt mean we have to agree with every decision made. Nobody on this entire forum listed Lyons as an 'out' in their projected changes this week. Must be because we're a lynch mob. Pull your head in.

 

[King Elvis]

Disagree with this statement big time...

That is exactly what he does best!!!

At this stage, it what he DID best, not what he DOES best.

I'm not a Porps basher, I love him and want him to get his mojo back, but I also don't think the AFL is the place for him to do it.

According to who? The lynch mob on the Adelaide board on BF? Haha, don't make me laugh. If you really do believe this though, I look forward to a detailed post of the past month, going into extensive detail about each player during that time which shows Lyons is in the top dozen. He may be, I'll be interested to see the proof though.

Or maybe you could go and have a chat to Sando and voice your frustrations? Send him an email through the club?

Your defense of the status quo is becoming irrational.

How about you rate the players for the last 3 weeks, and tell us where Lyons sits?

Nobody needs to go into extensive detail like you want, because those who have actually watched the games, and don't blindly accept that the coaching panel is completely infallible, know that Lyons has performed well.

Then again, rating Porps on par with Lyons last week does tend to dent one's credibility.

Our spectacular 5/5 record, beating the worst teams in the league, is something to be celebrated.

It's not the younger players letting us down - they're the ones carrying us.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Your defense of the status quo is becoming irrational.

Mate you ain't the guy to be accusing others of being irrational.

 

[Elite Crow]

Mate you ain't the guy to be accusing others of being irrational.

Mate you ain't the guy to accuse the accuser accusing others of being irrational.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I understand your point but disagree. Henderson could have covered Porps spot and Dangers forward spot could be any of the mids rotating through . Or keep Porps and drop MacKay, straight swap for crouch.

Whichever way you carve it up Lyons didn't deserve to be dropped when comparing his output with some senior players.

True. You are correct.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Mate you ain't the guy to be accusing others of being irrational.

Mate you ain't the guy to accuse the accuser accusing others of being irrational.

You two should merge and call yourselves Elite Wood.

 

[King Elvis]

Mate you ain't the guy to be accusing others of being irrational.

You might not agree with me, but I don't think I'm being irrational, and I generally explain my position and back it up with evidence, instead of doing the Internet version of sticking my fingers in my ears and yelling over the top of people without actually arguing any of their points.