Draft Watcher Davo-27's 2020 u18 Draft Watch

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1. Will Phillips - Oakleigh - 180cm 80kg
2. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - GWV/Oakleigh - 195cm 90kg
3. Logan McDonald - Perth - 197cm 86kg
4. Denver Grainger-Barras - Swan Dist - 194cm 78kg
5. Elijah Hollands - Murray - 189cm 85kg
6. Riley Thilthorpe - West Adel - 201cm 100kg
7. Archie Perkins - Sandringham - 188cm 79kg
8. Braeden Campbell - Sydney A - 181cm 75kg
9. Tanner Bruhn - Geelong - 183cm 74kg
10. Lachlan Jones - WWT - 186cm 89kg
11. Heath Chapman - West Perth - 193cm 81kg
12. Reef McInnes - Oakleigh - 193cm 86kg
13. Oliver Henry - Geelong - 188cm 77kg
14. Nathan O'Driscoll - Perth - 187cm 78kg
15. Nikolas Cox - Northern - 200cm 87kg
16. Jackson Callow - Tas - 194cm 100kg
17. Eddie Ford - Western - 189cm 83kg
18. Tom Powell - Sturt - 183cm 74kg
19. Jack Carroll - East Frem - 187cm 76kg
20. Kaine Baldwin - Glenlg - 193cm 90kg
21. Brandon Walker - East Frem - 183cm 75kg
22. Oliver Davis - Tas - 182cm 75kg
23. Errol Gulden - Sydney A - 175cm 75kg
24. Jack Ginnivan - Bendigo - 183cm 77kg
25. Luke Edwards - Glenlg - 188cm 83kg
26. Finlay Macrae - Oakleigh - 186cm 78kg
27. Brayden Cook - South Adel - 189cm 82kg
28. Bailey Laurie - Oakleigh - 179cm 78kg
29. Caleb Poulter - WWT - 192cm 79kg
30. Connor Downie - Eastern - 185cm 82kg
31. Sam Berry - Gippsland - 181cm 80kg
32. Joel Western - Claremont - 172cm 68kg
33. Zac Dumesny - South Adel - 186cm 80kg
34. Brodie Lake - NT/Peel/Central Dist - 185cm 79kg
35. Blake Coleman - Brisbane A - 180cm 79kg
36. Zane Trew - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
37. Zach Reid - Gippsland - 202cm 83kg
38. Cody Brand - Calder - 196cm 87kg
39. Shannon Neale - Sth Frem - 202cm 91kg
40. Charlie Lazzaro - Geelong - 179cm 73kg
41. Isiah Winder - Peel - 180cm 79kg
42. Taj Schofield - WWT - 178cm 72kg
43. Carter Michael - Brisbane A - 188cm 74kg
44. Zavier Maher - Murray - 185cm 82kg
45. Lachlan Carrigan - Sandringham - 191cm 78kg
46. Max Heath - Sandringham - 203cm 94kg
47. Maurice Rioli Jnr - NT - 173cm 73kg
48. Harry Sharp - GWV - 183cm 69kg
49. Jake Bowey - Sandringham - 175cm 67kg
50. Clayton Gay - Dandenong - 184cm 78kg

a couple of state league players i think might get drafted, Tom Highmore and Jackson Ramsay(not going to speculate where they might go).

others outside of the top 50 include, Seamus Mitchell, Luke Pedlar, Henry Walsh, Kalin Lane, Liam McMahon, Sam Collins, Josh Green, Campbell Edwardes, Jackson Cardillo, Jack Avery, James Borlase, Lochlan Jenkins, Max Holmes, Connor Stone.
 
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Strange how they went very throughly through the lists of outs but didn’t mentioned Jamison Murphy (who has disappeared the last month or so from memory) was he injured for the end of the season?

would have thought he would have got a mention.
 
Davo-27 said:
massive 3rd quarter from Edwards, playing really well

Cooper Beecken looking like a good prospect for 2021
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Beecken reminded me of Will Day playing school footy this year, plenty to work with
 

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eDPS said:
Beecken reminded me of Will Day playing school footy this year, plenty to work with
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maybe a bit of Jordan Ridley?
 
philthy05 said:
maybe a bit of Jordan Ridley?
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I don’t know if he will get that tall but that would be a big plus for him
 
eDPS said:
Ridley is 195cm. Beecken is 188cm from the offical measurements
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I wasn’t aware that Ridley was that tall (I only have vague recollection of his predraft measurements.

you think the sanfl provided measurements in the team lists are incorrect? I know it’s possible.

I’m still not concerned about that height. He can still grow and if not it’s still a good height.

I notice that Luke young is listed at 187cm and Beecken is definitely taller than him so if beeckens height is listed wrong so is young’s
 
philthy05 said:
I wasn’t aware that Ridley was that tall (I only have vague recollection of his predraft measurements.

you think the sanfl provided measurements in the team lists are incorrect? I know it’s possible.

I’m still not concerned about that height. He can still grow and if not it’s still a good height.

I notice that Luke young is listed at 187cm and Beecken is definitely taller than him so if beeckens height is listed wrong so is young’s
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Young is 185cm
 
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players i thought were the best players (highlight yellow players)

Caleb Poulter - had a great game, always finding space and theres a lot of physical improvement for him
Luke Edwards - had a good first half, but was in everything for yellow in the 2nd half off half back and break away clearances in the centre
Zac Dumesny - cool calm and reliable, he really is flexible in the positions he plays well
Tom Powell - had some quiet moments in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, but he is a talent, might drop a few spots in rankings, but still very talented mid
Brodie Lake - every time i see him play i love his energy and bravery, he also has good skills
Cooper Beecken - really liked his defensive play, reminds me of some of the good defenders in the AFL
Tom Emmett - kicked 4 goals and had a great game up forward for red
Riley Holder - kicked 3 goals and also had a good game for red

after this group there were a bunch who also had good games imo

Nathan Hearing
Cooper Murley
Jase Burgoyne
Will Spain
Henry Nelligan
Nasiah Wanganeen
Mani Liddy
 
eDPS said:
Beecken reminded me of Will Day playing school footy this year, plenty to work with
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I thought I was watching Will Hamill, even down to the number 17.


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Crow_68 said:
I thought I was watching Will Hamill, even down to the number 17.


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Hamill is a lot more speedy but certainly in the looks department and height
 
Davo-27 said:
Full Time SA All Stars Game (yellow 36-90 red)

players i thought were the best players (highlight yellow players)

Caleb Poulter - had a great game, always finding space and theres a lot of physical improvement for him
Luke Edwards - had a good first half, but was in everything for yellow in the 2nd half off half back and break away clearances in the centre
Zac Dumesny - cool calm and reliable, he really is flexible in the positions he plays well
Tom Powell - had some quiet moments in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, but he is a talent, might drop a few spots in rankings, but still very talented mid
Brodie Lake - every time i see him play i love his energy and bravery, he also has good skills
Cooper Beecken - really liked his defensive play, reminds me of some of the good defenders in the AFL
Tom Emmett - kicked 4 goals and had a great game up forward for red
Riley Holder - kicked 3 goals and also had a good game for red

after this group there were a bunch who also had good games imo

Nathan Hearing
Cooper Murley
Jase Burgoyne
Will Spain
Henry Nelligan
Nasiah Wanganeen
Mani Liddy
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Great summary, although I wasn’t as impressed by Poulter.

Corey Durdin and Lachlan Grubb had some excellent moments as well.


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i guess i should update my list since its been a month or 2, i guess this will be my last one unless im inspired to change a few names around or whatever, i will go into detail about the top 7 as they seem likely to go top 7, then list the rest in order of my opinion.

1. Will Phillips - dont get me wrong, i can see the value in good tall forwards and i understand why they are likely to go 1-2 in the draft, but for me Phillips is my pick for best player in the draft, clean handling, tough, leader by action, smart, determined and competitive, runs out of congestion, uses the ball nearly every time constructively, consistent performer, consistently one of the best players on field over about a dozen games (p.s. out performed Rowell at times in the 2019 finals series, Rowell who had been king of the big games for over 2 years)

2. JUH - i have him here for performing at a high level in a tough competition, the NAB League, good leads, smart body use to take marks behind or on the lead, nice kick at goal, goal kicking limited to 50m, good athletic signs on field, wins one on ones, nice kick at goal

3. Logan McDonald - another tall forward, had a rough year last year, then came out of the blocks with a bang kicking bags of goals in pre-season WAFL, then followed that up with a great year eventually winning a spot in the WAFL team of the year, deceptively quick and mobile, good one on ones, improved goal kicking from last year, beat some decent defenders in the WAFL using his height but also body work

4. Elijah Hollands - i saw him mostly play as a half forward and a couple of games as a midfielder, as a half forward he had the best attributes of both Perkins and Ford, contested marking and clever ball use, his one negative was long range goal kicking, i think i saw him kick half a dozen behinds from 40-50m out, but then he kicks a freakish goal from the boundary 45m out for VC at the MCG, as a midfielder he bursts through the midfield and pushes forward becoming a goal kicking option and seems to adapt to midfield very well

5. Denver Grainger-Barras - from the first game i saw him where as an underager he single handedly created a zone of influence where if the ball came into that zone, he would kill it, intercept it or tackle the guy who had it during VC comeback run, he is super competitive and i think most people pencilled him in as a likely top 5 pick or top 10 pick coming into 2020 off of that game and his WAFL form, competitive, athletic and agile for a big man, good defensive attributes, determined, loves a contest.

6. Riley Thilthorpe - this one is controversial, because i see him as a athletic ruckman(endurance and agility) who has potential to rest forward, but people view him as a tall forw/ruck hybrid, something like Peter Wright or Charlie Dixon, i think his game translates moreso to a ruckman who rests forward, but thats not as sexy as whats being sold, he is an athletic tall talent and has done a few impressive things this year and should go top 10 somewhere.

7. Braeden Campbell - from the half dozen games ive seen of him, he seemed to be very much an outside player who has a lovely left foot kick and is dangerous around goals, at times he can be courageous, good speed, skillful kicking, probably the best wing option in the draft pool this year.

8. Archie Perkins
9. Tanner Bruhn
10. Reef McInnes
11. Oliver Henry
12. Nathan O'Driscoll
13. Lachlan Jones
14. Nikolas Cox
15. Brandon Walker
16. Heath Chapman
17. Jackson Callow
18. Jack Carroll
19. Tom Powell
20. Kaine Baldwin
21. Eddie Ford
22. Luke Edwards
23. Zac Dumesny
24. Errol Gulden
25. Alex Davies
26. Oliver Davis
27. Bailey Laurie
28. Jack Ginnivan
29. Connor Downie
30. Joel Western
31. Sam Berry
32. Caleb Poulter
33. Zane Trew
34. Finlay Macrae
35. Brayden Cook
36. Brodie Lake
37. Harry Sharp
38. Blake Coleman
39. Isiah Winder
40. Taj Schofield
41. Joel Jeffrey
42. Cody Brand
43. Sam Collins
44. Charlie Lazzaro
45. Zach Reid
46. Shannon Neale
47. Carter Michael
48. Lochlan Jenkins
49. Clayton Gay
50. Josh Green/Liam McMahon/Campbell Edwardes/Jackson Cardillo (cant make my mind up for last spot)
 
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A few changes to the list above and reasons for them happening from my previous list

Nathan O'Driscoll dropped a couple of spots, maybe over estimated his performances and was hoping to see stronger performances this year from him
Tom Powell, dropped him a few spots as well, his last month or so has been a bit patchy
Kaine Baldwin, I realise how much of a risk he could be for a top 15 pick, but is definitely a risk/reward selection imo

Lachlan Jones I raised because he is very impressive medium defender
Brandon Walker I raised because I love his speed and run from defense
Heath Chapman I raised, he is the 2nd best tall defender in the pool, love his counter attacking flair and loves going for a run
Joel Western I raised, mainly because his year has been top knotch, playing really well in WA and BOG in the all stars game
Caleb Poulter I raised, because of his school footy gf performance and his SA all stars performance, he has some issues with contested situations, but has a great workrate and a lot of development
Taj Schofield I raised, because I liked his school footy form and I think there's room for development with him

I also wanted to mention Maurice Rioli Jnr, in 2019 I saw a few games he was in and he seemed over weight and lethargic, but seeing some vision from him in the NT this year he seems to have some of Cyril speed and agility, there's still a lot of questions about how he will develop, but there's been huge improvement from 2019 to 2020 and I now think he is definitely worth the punt for Richmond and they might even have to match a bid?
 
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Davo-27 said:
I also wanted to mention Maurice Rioli Jnr, in 2019 I saw a few games he was in and he seemed over weight and lethargic, but seeing some vision from him in the NT this year he seems to have some of Cyril speed and agility, there's still a lot of questions about how he will develop, but there's been huge improvement from 2019 to 2020 and I now think he is definitely worth the punt for Richmond and they might even have to match a bid?
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We are hoping a bid comes later than pick #32 which should be the cse but we never know what DoDo might do
 
kickthething said:
With Sydney going with Campbell so they may not need Gulden? I think a little too much emphasis is placed on height. There are 90 listed AFL players who are 177cm and below (Thats 5 ft 9 in the old language!). I think if the players are good enough they are good enough. There are plenty of positions for smaller players so I feel it's more a case of what a team needs and if the player is good enough to fill the need.
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Gulden didn't do very well in the combine. Not fast at all and has a reasonable tank (and he was not tanking). He may struggle to have an impact in the big league. I love the guy but that's the harsh reality.
 
im going to play a little game of who i think the top 10 picks are

1. Western (bid)- JUH - has grown and put on weight, has done well at the combine and i think Adelaide will try and snipe him
2. Adelaide - Logan McDonald - missing out on JUH they get a similar KPF prospect
3. North Melb - Elijah Hollands - i think North like Hollands ahead of Phillips and DGB here, but they could go for any 3 of them with Hollands probably the favourite
4. Sydney - DGB - i think he is the most likely to be picked here by sydney, but they could also go Phillips or Thilthorpe at this spot
5. Sydney (bid)- Braeden Campbell - i think the hawks will try and snipe Campbell, but the swans will match
6. Hawthorn - Will Phillips - i think they will weigh up a ruck who can go forw or a pure midfielder, but Thilthorpe or even Bruhn could be a surprise pick here
7. GCS - Riley Thilthorpe - they will have to take Thilthorpe and he will be the perfect replacement for Witts in a couple/few years time
8. Coll (bid)- Reef McInnes - i think Dodoro will try and poach McInnes from the pies, but the pies wont let him go to a cross town rival
9. Ess - Tanner Bruhn - ess will take the highly talented Bruhn
10. Ess - Nathan O'Driscoll - ess will take another midfielder here giving them more options and depth through the engine room, they could also take a Perkins here or a Henry, or even Cox, maybe a Reid for edps, anyway they will have plenty of good options with these 2 picks
 
Davo-27 said:
im going to play a little game of who i think the top 10 picks are

1. Western (bid)- JUH - has grown and put on weight, has done well at the combine and i think Adelaide will try and snipe him
2. Adelaide - Logan McDonald - missing out on JUH they get a similar KPF prospect
3. North Melb - Elijah Hollands - i think North like Hollands ahead of Phillips and DGB here, but they could go for any 3 of them with Hollands probably the favourite
4. Sydney - DGB - i think he is the most likely to be picked here by sydney, but they could also go Phillips or Thilthorpe at this spot
5. Sydney (bid)- Braeden Campbell - i think the hawks will try and snipe Campbell, but the swans will match
6. Hawthorn - Will Phillips - i think they will weigh up a ruck who can go forw or a pure midfielder, but Thilthorpe or even Bruhn could be a surprise pick here
7. GCS - Riley Thilthorpe - they will have to take Thilthorpe and he will be the perfect replacement for Witts in a couple/few years time
8. Coll (bid)- Reef McInnes - i think Dodoro will try and poach McInnes from the pies, but the pies wont let him go to a cross town rival
9. Ess - Tanner Bruhn - ess will take the highly talented Bruhn
10. Ess - Nathan O'Driscoll - ess will take another midfielder here giving them more options and depth through the engine room, they could also take a Perkins here or a Henry, or even Cox, maybe a Reid for edps, anyway they will have plenty of good options with these 2 picks
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When I first read this, I thought you meant Joel Western was going pick 1...
 
Davo-27 said:
im going to play a little game of who i think the top 10 picks are

1. Western (bid)- JUH - has grown and put on weight, has done well at the combine and i think Adelaide will try and snipe him
2. Adelaide - Logan McDonald - missing out on JUH they get a similar KPF prospect
3. North Melb - Elijah Hollands - i think North like Hollands ahead of Phillips and DGB here, but they could go for any 3 of them with Hollands probably the favourite
4. Sydney - DGB - i think he is the most likely to be picked here by sydney, but they could also go Phillips or Thilthorpe at this spot
5. Sydney (bid)- Braeden Campbell - i think the hawks will try and snipe Campbell, but the swans will match
6. Hawthorn - Will Phillips - i think they will weigh up a ruck who can go forw or a pure midfielder, but Thilthorpe or even Bruhn could be a surprise pick here
7. GCS - Riley Thilthorpe - they will have to take Thilthorpe and he will be the perfect replacement for Witts in a couple/few years time
8. Coll (bid)- Reef McInnes - i think Dodoro will try and poach McInnes from the pies, but the pies wont let him go to a cross town rival
9. Ess - Tanner Bruhn - ess will take the highly talented Bruhn
10. Ess - Nathan O'Driscoll - ess will take another midfielder here giving them more options and depth through the engine room, they could also take a Perkins here or a Henry, or even Cox, maybe a Reid for edps, anyway they will have plenty of good options with these 2 picks
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I can definitely see that happening. With essendon and their need for big bodied mids, plus Dodoro.. well, you can just see him bidding. Wouldn't be the first time lol
 
Jen2310 said:
I can definitely see that happening. With essendon and their need for big bodied mids, plus Dodoro.. well, you can just see him bidding. Wouldn't be the first time lol
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Agree with Adelaide bidding on JUH, whilst it will be matched, you just never never know!! Take the best available every time.
 
2021 preview:

i have only seen a small sample of players so far, i will put how much or none if its based on reputation as this year has been mostly a write off

1. Jason Horne (few games and some highlights) - 182cm 75kg - Sth Adel, highly talented player that seems capable of doing everything, seems taller than 182cm and was pretty good at SANFL level as an underager this year, but i had already seen enough in his u18s games to realise he was a top end talent

2. Josh Rachele (half a dozen approx) - 179cm 77kg - Murray, in his year before underage year, he was probably one of the best players for Murray(2019) dominant half forward, either working with the midfield to get i50 entries or kicking goals, also i hear he was a stand out in the u16's too, so some serious talent and i wouldnt be surprised if he played midfield in 2021

3. Nick Daicos (have yet to see) - 183cm 72kg - Oakleigh - i have yet to see him play, but Matt Rendell and Cal Twomey believe he is an elite talent so i will put him here, because he will have to be amazing to be ahead of Horne and Rachele imo

--------------------------------these 3 i think will be the early elite talent, obviously i will have to wait and see with Daicos, but the other 2 im certain of

4. Josh Sinn (have yet to see) 186cm 72kg - Sandringham, another i have yet to see thanx to covid, but has a big reputation, doing well and being mentioned in articles alongside Sonsie as well as other draft watches being fans of him, so im predicting at this stage he will be top 5 or so

5. Tyler Sonsie (saw him in approx a dozen games) - 181cm - Eastern, played mostly as a half forw, but he is obviously more at home as a midfielder, i can see the talent he has, but doesnt shine like Horne or Rachele at this stage, im curious to see what he can do with more midfield responsibility

6. Cooper Beecken (saw him in SA all stars game) 190cm 73kg - Glenlg, small sample, but i loved how he played in that game, he stood out as the best SA kid for 2021 in that game, with a few others underperforming in Draper and Murley

7. Sam Banks (half a dozen games) 184cm - Tassie, impressive talent, reminds me a bit of Bruhn in how he plays, played decently in his year before underage in 2019 and had some quality moments.

8. Ben Hobbs (half a dozen games) 181cm 76kg - GWV - played really well as a half forw/mid in his year before underage year, competitive and skillful

9. Campbell Chesser (have yet to see) 186cm - Sandringham, another i have yet to see, but hear he is a quality player, so he is here on reputation

10. Rhett Bazzo (have yet to see) 194cm 74kg - Swan Dist, KPD who has big wraps, had a good u16's champs.

its hard to make a preview list without seeing a lot of the talent this year, so its more of a watch list to see if these players are good enough to be drafted for 2021

seen and i want to mention: Alex Lukic(oak), Charlie Molan(gwv), Jase Burgoyne(wwt), Nasiah Wanganeen(glenlg), Josh Brown(e frem), Tom Brown (murr)
 
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Davo-27 said:
im going to play a little game of who i think the top 10 picks are


8. Coll (bid)- Reef McInnes - i think Dodoro will try and poach McInnes from the pies, but the pies wont let him go to a cross town rival
9. Ess - Tanner Bruhn - ess will take the highly talented Bruhn
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Please let this be true ;)
 
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