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  1. TigerCraig

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    I know a team 3 seasons ago of 'mates who played together' beating up on 6XI teams and won the premiership going though the season undefeated.

    The club they played for asked some of them to help out and move up to the seconds but they didn't want to and left to go play lower grades at another club.

    Heroes!
     
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    No different from the guys who miss trainings cause of work yet they can still stay in the grades of their ability.

    I was just making one example to show it's not only the kids that are lacking the commitment.

    It's across all ages now.
     
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    Remember Martin Love, Stuart Law...

    What changed?
     
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    My son has just started Under 10's this season (all 20 over, 2.5 hour matches).

    Funnily enough, they spend a huge time getting the kids to practise and improve bowling. There's lots of help and advice on getting the arm straight and high, having a good run-up, getting body positions right, etc....

    But with batting, it's literally just "if it's a good ball then try to block it, if it's a bad ball then smash it!" stuff. Over 90% of runs would be scored between mid-wicket and fine leg...even if it's pitched outside off, kids will run across their stumps and try to hoik it over square leg. They are literally better at the cow corner slog than they are at a forward defence.

    I do nets with my son, deliberately bowling full on/outside off to get him to play cover drives, or even just a defensive off-side shot. But already it seems the "go big or go home" mentality is taking root....
     
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    Very young kids can really only score runs on the leg side. Difficult to swing the bat with any power anywhere else. High % scored on the leg side in the youngest age groups would be the norm (and would always have been).

    Bowling has to be the priority initially because if the team's bowlers aren't any good then the batters don't get any practice and the game doesn't function whatsoever.

    Would love to see double runs for off side shots though! And triple runs for runs scored in the V!

    No fielders allowed in the V either
     
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    I'm wary of those sorts of fixes, as it could just encourage bowlers to bowl short and/or leg side to not give up double/triple runs. There's no point fixing a batting problem by risking a bowling one.
     
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    I feel like this has happened for many years. Most kids naturally won’t have the strength to break the offside ring. That’s why they are trying to play through square leg and mid wicket. They are going to score the most runs there. I can see your point though and T20 is going to be partly to blame for it.

    But I think if you keep working on the offside shots, it will all click somewhere down the track that he’ll have to score all over the ground.
     
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    Given the emphasis on participation at that age level, you'd think the better thing to do would be to get them to focus on making good choices with the bat, even if they don't score, rather than letting them revert to cow corner.
     
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    They're lying.
     
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    With a T20 game, where you only face 12-18 balls each innings, there is a fair bit of pressure on kids to score big...or at least turn the strike over to someone else who can.

    (Although tbf, our comp has -4 penalty runs for each wicket lost, so kids do receive some praise for playing sensibly and keeping good balls out)
     

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  12. Drugs Are Bad Mackay?

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    Funny you should say that. We did an activity at training where there were no fielders allowed in the V and there was also a line across the pitch just short of a length. Any ball the pitched short of that line was worth double runs to the batters. Forced the bowlers to bowl full and attack the stumps. And the batters were rewarded if they could hit down the ground.

    Typically the level we're talking about though is beginner so not exactly the age where they can hone in on a spot for tactical negative bowling. It's an achievement just to hit the pitch!
     
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    AFL gets $418m a year from TV. NRL $360m. Cricket Australia? $200m a year.
     
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    Is that from Australian television?

    I wonder what the India series gets them
     
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    Yes.
     
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    How does one measure favouriteness?
     
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    Usman chimes in

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    Not especially relevant to this thread's question.

    You just claimed to. Doesn't mean that your measure is the best measure available.
     
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    It is the best measure available.
     
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    The Speaker why do you think the AFL and NRL get so much more TV money?
     
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    Concentrated markets delivering a reliable product for six+ months of the year.

    Cricket has a viable claim to being the favourite sport because it's national in a way that neither footy nor league are. What matters more to measuring 'favouriteness', breadth or depth? CA would say breadth, and that's entirely reasonable.
     
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    Pfft. They're national TV networks.
     
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    pfft all you like, the NRL doesn't have much weight outside the north-east, and the AFL has always been second fiddle there.
     
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    It says something about how strong they are in their 'halves' of Australia that they both easily dwarf cricket.
     
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