Egan - The Draft Bust

[TradeDraft]

I was just wondering what are your thoughts as his time at Collingwood and do you think he could of Made it?

I think he sure had the Raw Talent to make it but never looked like he wanted to work on them and get himself Better.

I could see at the Time why we Drafted him as we had Slow Side with and the Midfield was called "The Plod Squad" so we drafted him because of Speed and X-Factor. Think we drafted him to Early would of been a good 2nd or 3rd round Pick.

We could of taken Wood or Monfires.

Egan's 2004 Draft Profile:

Chris Egan

Details:
Club: Rumbalara/Murray
DOB: 26 October 1986 Hgt: 187cm Wgt: 78kg
Position: Onballer/Half Forward Flank
Natural Foot: Right
Honours:
Victoria Country 2004
National Draft Camp 2004
TAC Stats:
2003: 19 games, 28 goals, 14.6 PPG
2004: 14 games, 11 goals, 18.4 PPG
Strengths: Egan is a half-forward flanker with silky skills, extremely clean hands and the ability to do the amazing. He hardly ever fumbles, and he will use his long arms to pluck marks down that he has no right to.
Egan moves well through traffic, and is a booming kick. He can kick some truly special goals and his handballing has very good power. Chris has good speed and a tremendous vertical leap.
Weaknesses: Chris can make the impossible look easy, but often fail to do the basics. Queries over the defensive side of his game and discipline at this stage, and he can go missing for large stages of a game. Has also carried a few injuries in 2004.
Footydraft.com comment: Egan is one of the hardest players to place in the draft for mine. In terms of raw ability, he is probably in the top 10 in the draft pool. On his day he can be awesome. But when he is off, he is really off. Should go early, but he is no guarantee to make it.

http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=chris_egan

 

[Frankie23]

Well obviously he didn't make it....

I think we should look ahead not at the past

 

[Histrionics]

Clearly he couldn't have made it cause he didn't.

 

[BEEG]

I thought he was going to be a star really cost CFC big time that draft

 

[DaVe86]

yer was a bit of a horror.

Didn't we also trade down our first round pick to get Chad Morrison from the Eagles that year as well.

I think by memory we were meant to have pick 7 and traded down for pick 10 with West Coast. Pick 7 was Jordan Lewis.

But word was we were going to take Egan at 7 anyway.

 

[TradeDraft]

yer was a bit of a horror.

Didn't we also trade down our first round pick to get Chad Morrison from the Eagles that year as well.

I think by memory we were meant to have pick 7 and traded down for pick 10 with West Coast. Pick 7 was Jordan Lewis.

But word was we were going to take Egan at 7 anyway.

That is my Understanding and we also traded Bo Nixon(Another 1st Pick Bust) to Hawthorn

 

[smiddaz123]

Why did he apparently have the raw talent?

His skills were poor and he wasn't a clever player. Where was the talent?

 

[DaVe86]

Why did he apparently have the raw talent?

His skills were poor and he wasn't a clever player. Where was the talent?

Agreed, apart from obvious pace I never saw his 'talent'.

Lazy, could not kick to save his life, was poor in front of goals and was unfit.

His only talent was an ability to do some freaky things.

 

[TradeDraft]

Agreed, apart from obvious pace I never saw his 'talent'.

Lazy, could not kick to save his life, was poor in front of goals and was unfit.

His only talent was an ability to do some freaky things.

Well the Profile says that so I guess must of shown something in the Underage Comps but at AFL showed Nothing.

Though I have a 2003 TAC Cup GF where Egan played for the Bushrangers where they got Flogged by Calder

 

[sr36]

Why did he apparently have the raw talent?

His skills were poor and he wasn't a clever player. Where was the talent?

He was a beautiful mover.
His ball handling was generally one touch and often sublime.
His handballing was first class, in terms of accuracy and vision.


To me he had bucket loads of talent. If he had have got his head right he would have been a star. His kicking was inconsistent and didn't improve and mentally he wasn't up to scratch in terms of positioning, confidence, courage and I suspect commitment.

 

[DWil6]

Agreed, apart from obvious pace I never saw his 'talent'.

Lazy, could not kick to save his life, was poor in front of goals and was unfit.

His only talent was an ability to do some freaky things.

Even his pace was so/so. Was he in the g/f sprint at some stage? Got mauled by the rest of the field??

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Even his pace was so/so. Was he in the g/f sprint at some stage? Got mauled by the rest of the field??

Ridiculous to measure anything by that standard.

 

[chop_me]

Why did he apparently have the raw talent?

His skills were poor and he wasn't a clever player. Where was the talent?

"talent" is an over-used term to describe someone who is lazy and lacked work ethic

see our Fat Cox and Nick Davis

 

[smiddaz123]

He was a beautiful mover.
His ball handling was generally one touch and often sublime.
His handballing was first class, in terms of accuracy and vision.


To me he had bucket loads of talent. If he had have got his head right he would have been a star. His kicking was inconsistent and didn't improve and mentally he wasn't up to scratch in terms of positioning, confidence, courage and I suspect commitment.

What do you mean by beautiful mover? Fast? Agile?

It's all well and good to be one touch, but after you touch it, if you lack composure, intelligence and general skills, you don't deserve to be called talented imo.

I'm not a racist pelrson at all, but I really do wonder whether the fact he is indigenous makes people over rates how skillful and talented he was.

 

[sr36]

What do you mean by beautiful mover? Fast? Agile?

It's all well and good to be one touch, but after you touch it, if you lack composure, intelligence and general skills, you don't deserve to be called talented imo.

I'm not a racist pelrson at all, but I really do wonder whether the fact he is indigenous makes people over rates how skillful and talented he was.

by excellent mover I mean he had an extremely good natural combination of pace, balance and endurance.
I agree with a couple of your points. I also reckon that indigenous players are often overrated skillwise. I reckon a lot of this stems from the fact that the NT aborigines in particular, grew up in an environment of high risk football, where players regularly go for the audacious option over the percentage option. To draw a tennis parallel if the average player goes for a winner every shot, they lose but they look incredibly gifted because they pull off a lot of fantastic shots.
And you're point about composure and intelligence equalling talent is very true. Talent is usually used to describe the physical and ball skill side of the game, but ultimately it's often the mental side that differentiates between success and failure. Egan was extremely talented in terms of physical attributes and ball skills (inconsistent kicking aside), but not in terms of mental attributes.

 

[Magpie Ink]

My old man was working for Hawthorn in the recruiting dept at the time.

Remember asking what he thought of Egan hoping that we had picked up someone that was hard at it.

Dad put it simply. "Egan is as weak as piss"

 

[gifted1]

come on smiddaz sr36 has summed him up perfectly. was a massive talent. Came across as confident but wasn't, he was unsure of his abilty, bit of a misfit i reckon, didn't feel like he belonged. There was a period in 2006 i think where he was great, should've got more games, i know its a common thing to say but egan was the case in point for feeling like he belonged, i reckon we missed the best of him and thats a shame. He certainly didn't help himself either.

 

[JOELY]

Watched highlights from a game against west coast last night. egan looked so exciting. waltzed around like he was floating on air. i also remember a game against nth where he got plenty of it, and looked great. he had the tools to be a least decent, but we couldn't turn him into the worker we had hoped. He seemed to lack confidence in his ability, even though he tried to mask that by acting overly confident.

i think it was a bit of a reality check for the club who probably thought at the time with our facilities and coaching we can turn any talented player with personality queries into a gem.

 

[Vixen]

he was clumsy, badly skilled, selfish and a goal hunter. very weak defensively despite having some speed. speed doesn't matter when you trip over your own legs.

did very few good things. i always had hope for egan but the faith was never repayed. alot like cox with his dedication.

 

[sr36]

he was clumsy, badly skilled, selfish and a goal hunter. very weak defensively despite having some speed. speed doesn't matter when you trip over your own legs.

did very few good things. i always had hope for egan but the faith was never repayed. alot like cox with his dedication.

If this is an accurate description, why did you have high hopes?

 

[WinOrLoseILoveEm]

He was a beautiful mover.
His ball handling was generally one touch and often sublime.
His handballing was first class, in terms of accuracy and vision.


To me he had bucket loads of talent. If he had have got his head right he would have been a star. His kicking was inconsistent and didn't improve and mentally he wasn't up to scratch in terms of positioning, confidence, courage and I suspect commitment.

Draft camp scored high on vertical leap. Half expected him to become a taller Leon Davis.

Frustrating player for years. Injuries? Saw him make a set shot from boundary line to goal in a almost casual manner in the VFL ABC. Pretty sure that was his last year.

Any idea where he went after the Pies?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I have no criticisms to make on our decision to trade down in the draft if we are set on taking a player who we are confident we will get anyway. That's merely getting value for your pick, and is considered utterly routine in the NFL for instance. If anything, I think there should be more of it.

I am critical, however, of taking Chris Egan who had such a questionable work ethic. I genuinely believe that our screening/interviewing/ranking process has improved since the Egan failure.

What genuinely goads me though is that we could have traded down to take Morrison, taken Cameron Wood with our first-rounder, and then had an additional first-round pick in 2007 to spend on Callan Ward. The more I think about this, the more I spiral into depression... so best I don't continue to think about it.

 

[collingwill]

he had talent, he didnt make it, he isnt the first and he wont be the last to find junior footballs a totally different cattle of fish compared to the AFL.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

kettle of fish.

 

[kbutcher24]

terrible terrible attitude

would be right up there as one of the biggiest front runner's thats played for the club

glad to see the back of him