Fan threatened with eviction from MCG for barracking too loud

[Crankitup]

Indians are about to help further **** the planet by opening a huge coal mine in Queensland, for the so called smart country, we are awfully dumb at times.

If there was ever a post likely to derail a thread like this, I think this is it.

 

[Aramis]

True story time.

I was at the Hawks v Essendon game last night with an Essendon mate.
I saw 3 "hawks fans" standing no further than 50 cm from much older Essendon fans screaming in their face choice comments like "dogs" and "you f***ing drug cheats" (I mean get some new material?) on repeat... I couldn't quite believe what I was witnessing... my Essendon mate pulled one up and said "pull your head in" so they sized up to him, scuffle ensued and I managed to break them up. Anyway it calmed down once security came over and I was having a chat with one of the 3 hawks fans mates who reckoned "it was all good banter and **** the PC brigade, I pay my hard earned to be here".... Sure enough those 3 hawks fans got kicked out by no less than 10 cops and 4 security guards moments later. Deservedly so. Was an utter disgrace.

This directive to put a control on fan behaviour is actually having the opposite effect... People are angry, people are on edge and they are looking for fights.

Honestly, thought this problem was being blown out of proportion but if blokes think standing in a group and screaming inflammatory comments in the faces of opposition fans is "good banter" we're most certainly in a sorry state. It all comes down to the definition of "barracking" and based on what I saw and the comments I heard, thats rapidly deviating from what it truly means.

 

[go_the_dockers]

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

I'm a 21-year Hawthorn member and haven't set foot inside an AFL stadium since round 2. I gave my membership to a mate and told him to keep it.

I won't be back any time soon.

Look, it may be a coincidence, but I'm just saying this boycott might carry a bit more oomph this year coming from a Geelong or Collingwood member (and even then we don't really care - hello Joffa), as opposed to, say a Carlton or Melbourne member. And right now, Hawthorn's closer to the latter than the former.

Dwayne Russell has summed it up pretty well, but I think it's worth drilling down on his point on 'acceptable behaviour in a pub'. I pretty much see it as if you're likely to get pulled up on it while watching a big sporting event in a pub, it could reasonably be expected that the same would happen when you're watching the game in person.

Letting fly with a stray f-bomb that falls short of outright abuse ("That's a ****ing throw!)? Probably OK, but you might get a tap on the shoulder, depending on your volume. Constant profanity/abuse, baiting nearby opposition supporters, racial slurs? See you later. You might get a warning, or it might be a straight red card.

Some of the abuse that has been part of sport in this country for a long time (maggot, sheep shaggers etc.) should probably go sooner rather than later too.

 

[nameless]

The AFL have completely missed the core issue, and instead of fixing the problem, they employ totalitarian tactics of silencing the masses and forcing their will upon the people.

The core issue is poor umpiring, brought on by too many rule & interpretation changes on what appears to be a weekly basis (the AFL will have you believe they don't give a directive). The fans are seeing the game they've loved change rapidly, the fans are voicing their opposition (perhaps in unsocial ways), but you back a dog into a corner and it'll start to bite.

While we live in a changing world where what was acceptable crowd behaviour 5-10 years ago no longer is, and people are more vigilant to call it out. The issue still remains that the cause of a lot of this behaviour stems from the AFLs decisions to take the game down a certain path and deny responsibility.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I haven’t read this whole thread, and I doubt this is an original thought - but as someone who also loves the round ball code, a tiny part of me takes some smug satisfaction at AFL supporters being so overzealously policed after so many of them have made ignorant comments about “violent wog crowds” who deserve that level of intrusion.


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[go_the_dockers]

Look, it may be a coincidence, but I'm just saying this boycott might carry a bit more oomph this year coming from a Geelong or Collingwood member (and even then we don't really care - hello Joffa), as opposed to, say a Carlton or Melbourne member. And right now, Hawthorn's closer to the latter than the former.

Dwayne Russell has summed it up pretty well, but I think it's worth drilling down on his point on 'acceptable behaviour in a pub'. I pretty much see it as if you're likely to get pulled up on it while watching a big sporting event in a pub, it could reasonably be expected that the same would happen when you're watching the game in person.

Letting fly with a stray f-bomb that falls short of outright abuse ("That's a ****ing throw!)? Probably OK, but you might get a tap on the shoulder, depending on your volume. Constant profanity/abuse, baiting nearby opposition supporters, racial slurs? See you later. You might get a warning, or it might be a straight red card.

Some of the abuse that has been part of sport in this country for a long time (maggot, sheep shaggers etc.) should probably go sooner rather than later too.

I like this. But at least acknowledge you are making a change, give people some warning and I am on board with this.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

 

[Chaisa]

That is utterly disgraceful. And unlike some journalists I don't think Edwards is the type that would spin the truth either.

 

[thecatattack]

If AFL fans, especially active members like Cheer Squads, had balls they'd stage walkouts and no-shows like fans of A-League clubs, i.e. Melbourne Victory, have done over fan regulations.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

If ‘Nat’ is to be believed, and I have no reason to not believe her, then it’s time to boycott the AFL. Gil is a ****ing joke of a CEO.

 

[TheExtractorFactor]

If AFL fans, especially active members like Cheer Squads, had balls they'd stage walkouts and no-shows like fans of A-League clubs, i.e. Melbourne Victory, have done over fan regulations.

Because that worked didn't it? The A-League is on its knees and supporters feel no more welcome than they did before.

 

[Mazza1234678]

Out of curiosity is there a fine for getting ejected from marvel or the g?

 

[Mazza1234678]

Heard reports of guys getting taped on the shoulder from security last night for being too loud, vocal, etc

This game has gone to absolute shit on every level

The rule changes, PC bullshit, crowds and the love affair with the bookies

Won’t be going to another game this year and even lost interest with the game this year

 

[joy division]

Went to my first game of the year with a friends spare membership. First of all it's pretty poor I had to sit beside two fully merch'ed up Hawks fans in the Bombers member area in the pocket.

An old fella stood up after a turnover and Hawks goal and simply shouted "CMON, WHERE ARE WE?" and sat back down. Security swiftly over, police took him into the aisle for a chat and then he came back to his seat and kept it pretty much zipped after that. Very odd stuff. Gave me a real uneasy feeling for the rest of the game tbh. I half jumped up and yelled, "ball!" later on and shit myself. Shouldn't be this way.

 

[go_the_dockers]

If ‘Nat’ is to be believed, and I have no reason to not believe her, then it’s time to boycott the AFL. Gil is a ******* joke of a CEO.

Coming from Nat, it carries a lot more weight.

At least admit to the change.

 

[Royces Hart]

I'm hardly a Dwayne Russell fan but this article is bang on the money. He absolutely nails this topic.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/06...on-this-one-russells-take-on-crowd-behaviour/

Here's a brief excerpt:

“For the idiots who couldn’t read the AFL’s press release yesterday and understand the vibe of it, let me explain the vibe of it,” he said.

“If you go to an AFL game, you have a responsibility to act like a human being. Buying a ticket is not a license to abuse and be an aggressive wrecker of someone else’s footy experience.

“That’s the parameter, if you need it explained to you. Like you would in any public place where kids might be present and they might be enjoying the good time too, the exact same responsibilities that you have in every other public place as a human being in public is the same at the footy.

“My suggestion is if you haven’t learned that yet, you look around you, you read your environment, and you read the people around you and you act accordingly.

“If you have half a brain, you don’t need a list drawn up by the AFL explaining how to act when you walk into a game of footy, just like you don’t need a list drawn up when you go to the movies and you don’t need a list drawn up when you walk into a pub.”

Wait, Dwayne says going to the footy doesn’t give you the right to abuse people.

Then goes on to call people idiots and “half a brain.”

 

[Black Panther]

The security goons must've had a nervous breakdown in what to do after 10,000 fans started chanting "Bull-shit, Bull-shit, Bull-shit" after the Bruest goal late in the last term

 

[blue harvest]

I was at Marvel last night. Lots of loud barracking, people standing up, yelling at umpiring etc just like all the other games I've been to this year and not a peep from security. Only incident I've seen this year is a bloke a few rows down getting thrown out for smuggling grog in.

I'm calling bs on most of the 'I waz doin nuffing wrong' stories. Like that Collingwood bloke who said he doesn't swear or abuse people and then evidence surfaced of him doing exactly that.

 

[Breustiful]

Had the police come up the block I was sitting in (nosebleeds) about 6 times (I generally lost count after the fourth time), just staring down anyone. Area I was in was generally fine - as you'd expect. They really subdued the atmosphere between two great rivals.

Was extremely awkward.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Because that worked didn't it? The A-League is on its knees and supporters feel no more welcome than they did before.

So be it.

 

[TheExtractorFactor]

Photo from last nights game.

 

[Lockyer24]

Goodesy and his victim mentality (and army of victims) has caused this garbage

 

[Ron The Bear]

Goodesy and his victim mentality (and army of victims) has caused this garbage

i don't believe that. It was already in train.

An old fella stood up after a turnover and Hawks goal and simply shouted "CMON, WHERE ARE WE?" and sat back down. Security swiftly over, police took him into the aisle for a chat and then he came back to his seat and kept it pretty much zipped after that.

That's toxic masculinity and a poor example to young boys. We want them submissive and servile.

Wait until we're caught up in a war and our military can't pick up their weapons because they've just painted their fingernails pink.

 

[Ok Boomer]

Pretty rare for Nat Edwards to not go down the AFL spin line.