Autopsy Geelong defeated by Port by 16 points.

[son of meto]

BTW everybody seems to assume our next opponent will be Eagles.
Collingwood do travel well...

Yep, watch out for the Pies.

 

[son of meto]

What?

Or Port Melbourne...anywhere but Geelong

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Some of Dangerfield's decision making leaves a lot to be desired. Twice he broke away from the centre and surged forward only to try a sideways handball that missed the mark ... twice. He kicks blindly from packs, starts forward when we desperately need clearances and I counted several times he refused to chase his man out of defence.

So Patty, how about you stop walking around with your chest puffed out and focus on the stuff that matters.

 

[Overhang]

Sav takes contested marks. rohan doesnt. And Rohan isnt useful when the ball hits the deck otherwise he would get more then 8 touches a game.

Rohan brings the 1 thing we lack, forward pressure, it isn't all about getting touches, it's about affecting the kick out of defense and he does that very well, he hits contests harder than most our team, Rohan brings a lot that stat's just don't demonstrate. Do you really want to swap our fastest pressure forward in a slow forward line with another tall who is useless when the ball hits the deck?

 

[Chinacats]

Given that we have got very little help from the draft over the last 10 years, we have done very well to regularly make the finals. I'm beginning to think we have over-achieved. We are in a position right now where we have 3 first round picks. We should use them to recruit good young players to add to the quite promising crop of young talent we have. We need to break this cycle of trading our picks for discards from other clubs. You only have to look at some of the players we have picked up in the draft to understand how important it is - Selwood, Duncan, Ablett (even if he was father son), Guthrie, Hawkins (FS as well). I'm not saying we haven't picked up some pretty good players by trading but it is important to have a good mix.

Over achieved? Here we go... haha

 

[gaz love x]

It's hard to distill our constant failure to one aspect but I'm going to have a go because this is the running theme through all our finals series:

It's clear the weakness in our midfield is accountability on the outside if we don't win the ball at a stoppage. Everyone knows this and so good teams will look to exploit this by committing extra numbers and outworking us in this area. That was the difference between Port in the first half and second: they had three open players every time they won the ball. This should be a kamikaze tactic because surely you're leaving weaknesses to counterattack if you don't get a mark inside 50 or at least your players are going to fatigue getting back into position.

But rather than exploiting this when they win the ball back (and we did - our defence actually held up ok, Port didn't kick a massive score), we let them off the hook by moving the ball slowly. Now in H&A games teams are often content to just get back into position and so all we're doing is letting the opponent take advantage of our big weakness. But good teams tend to put pressure on, and teams in finals tend to have a plan to win. So in finals teams don't drop back and allow us easy possession, instead they stay high because they know we won't move it quickly and will instead invite further pressure. And then you have what happened in the second half last night (and in 90% of finals we've played in recent memory), we start turning it over or - best case scenario - retain possession and kick long to a contest after giving the opposition more than enough time to set up. And so in finals we give the opposition two massive advantages in one.

Sadly there's no remedying such a basic flaw when the coaching staff is unwilling to. We could recruit to address this problem in midfield or change our ball movement out of defence to better compliment our midfield. But continually refuse to do either. So any team who comes to play will beat us easily most of the time. Last night actually went just about as well as it could have - our midfield did ok against a good group in the first half, their coach made an astonishing blunder allowing Hawkins to get one out again, and their alleged most important player had a stinker. And yet we were still nowhere near. Scoreline flattering, we were as far away from winning that as from any of the other capitulations.

 

[Spazz Cat]

I can't believe some like him, and some tonight said he played well.
Well he did, for Port Adelaide. Hit their chests more than he did ours.

Putrid footballer.

He was allright. Couple of shit kicks but was decent.
You've just got a thing about him no matter what he does.

 

[Chinacats]

Taylor was ordinary. Motlop ran rings around him.

atkins justified nothing. Played as a mid and was terrible.

Why was it on Taylor to wrestle with Dixon then chase down Motlop? He got cheapies and it was left to Taylor to chase him. Where was the tight checking?

 

[Chinacats]

Scott doesnt take criticism in denial

Too old
No leg speed
Slow ball movement
No plan b
Henry & kolo crumble no awareness and poor kicks
Small forwards dont kick enough goals
No 2nd tall marking target

Yes no plan b stands out. 21 down in third and cats were still slowly chipping it around in back half. Had no answers.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Kick straight and we win? Maybe not. Half of those misses were Hawkins on the boundary line or flukey snaps out of congestion. Our forward half game needs work. Its a recurring theme in finals. We don’t score enough. Slow ball moving game plan that congests our forward line where the only option we can find is Hawkins on the boundary. Not good enough. Must be holiday season on Hawkins island as it’s jam packed!

There were well more than 3 very kickable goals in a 3 goal loss

 

[frggr]

What?

The guy's just spouting BS

 

[frggr]

It's hard to distill our constant failure to one aspect but I'm going to have a go because this is the running theme through all our finals series:

It's clear the weakness in our midfield is accountability on the outside if we don't win the ball at a stoppage. Everyone knows this and so good teams will look to exploit this by committing extra numbers and outworking us in this area. That was the difference between Port in the first half and second: they had three open players every time they won the ball. This should be a kamikaze tactic because surely you're leaving weaknesses to counterattack if you don't get a mark inside 50 or at least your players are going to fatigue getting back into position.

But rather than exploiting this when they win the ball back (and we did - our defence actually held up ok, Port didn't kick a massive score), we let them off the hook by moving the ball slowly. Now in H&A games teams are often content to just get back into position and so all we're doing is letting the opponent take advantage of our big weakness. But good teams tend to put pressure on, and teams in finals tend to have a plan to win. So in finals teams don't drop back and allow us easy possession, instead they stay high because they know we won't move it quickly and will instead invite further pressure. And then you have what happened in the second half last night (and in 90% of finals we've played in recent memory), we start turning it over or - best case scenario - retain possession and kick long to a contest after giving the opposition more than enough time to set up. And so in finals we give the opposition two massive advantages in one.

Sadly there's no remedying such a basic flaw when the coaching staff is unwilling to. We could recruit to address this problem in midfield or change our ball movement out of defence to better compliment our midfield. But continually refuse to do either. So any team who comes to play will beat us easily most of the time. Last night actually went just about as well as it could have - our midfield did ok against a good group in the first half, their coach made an astonishing blunder allowing Hawkins to get one out again, and their alleged most important player had a stinker. And yet we were still nowhere near. Scoreline flattering, we were as far away from winning that as from any of the other capitulations.

Hopefully someone in the media does a breakdown of the above ala Hawkins Island and the club are forced to look into it

 

[Chinacats]

Since the start of 2019, our best football has been played with Selwood not in the midfield. This is not a criticism of a champion player, but for whatever reason the other midfielders seem diminished when he is there.

Selwood should be played forward. Guthrie is our cleanest and quickest midfielder and seemed to be out of action.

Touhy could be moved back for Kolo, a better match for the smalls, and bring in Steven onto a wing, but I don’t think we will see any changes.

Yes. It’s a hierarchical problem. I mean when danger goes forward what does Rohan, Dahlhaus and Miers think? “Oh paddy is here we better get out of his way“ so their role becomes diminished. The negative flow on effect is significant at this club.

 

[Strange Cat]

After a long night of no sleep really it’s becoming very clear that this issue needs to be resolved , I really don’t know what the club can do anymore

changes need to be made next year , some very big changes

enough is ****ing enough

 

[Strange Cat]

And scott can **** off with his defence of our poor finals history

delusional doesn’t even scratch the surface of this club anymore

 

[cat_shack]

Weird feeling after the game last night. Except for 3rd qtr, we looked pretty comfortable for the most part. In the end accuracy at goal killed us, and port took every opportunity they had. Crowd played a big part. Especially salty at the flop Motlop kicking 3 in a final given his record with us in finals.
I thought as a whole the team played really well, Miers was really poor, but outside of that I can’t really single any players performance out. My best for the night were Stanley, Selwood, Kolo, and Duncan. We will be better for the run, and whilst extremely disappointing we are far from out of it. Bring on next week!

 

[year of the cat]

Some of Dangerfield's decision making leaves a lot to be desired. Twice he broke away from the centre and surged forward only to try a sideways handball that missed the mark ... twice. He kicks blindly from packs, starts forward when we desperately need clearances and I counted several times he refused to chase his man out of defence.

So Patty, how about you stop walking around with your chest puffed out and focus on the stuff that matters.

Aside from against Sydney a few years back, he's been pretty underwhelming in finals. Like Duncan.

 

[lionbear]

There were well more than 3 very kickable goals in a 3 goal loss

Port did only what they had to do in that third quarter and held in the fourth, as much as it looked as though we wasted an opportunity, that third quarter showed the result to be about right.

Last nights post match discussion on K Rock was one of the best analysis I have heard of our team currently:
* We dont have the talent or depth we had 10 years ago.
* Chris Scott is a good coach, not a great coach.
* Not saying Scott is done, but do the older players need a fresh voice?
* We don't worry Richmond in Finals.
* Lake of Depth means Pressure will always expose us.
* In finals we need Dangerfield, Hawkins and Selwood in our best 5 players to be a chance, until this changes we are going to continue this.

I actually asked someone this morning, if Chris Scott was coaching Richmond, does Marlon Pickett get a game in the GF? I would say no, and that's the small difference between success and failure, that ability to take a risk and not go into safe mode come Finals.

Round 13 2016: Defeated Premiers Western Bulldogs by 57 points.
Round 11 2017: Defeated Grand Finalist Adelaide in Adelaide by 22 Points.
Round 12 2019: Defeated Premiers Richmond by 67 points.
Round 12 2020: Defeated Minor premier Port Adelaide by 60 points.

This has happened too many times now for it to be a coincidence, but how do you change it?

 

[Grimoz]

really?
I reckon he'll hang around until he is pushed ... one of my fave-ever players but his time has come - thought he had a good 1st half last night, but the midfield needs fresh legs.

Im not sure, he has had a lot of injuries lately and his crash and bash style of play over the years wont be good for his body, 300+ games of doing that he must be wrecked, reckon he will hang them up and start popping out some father sons with Britt.

 

[bellpark]

I like the comments today that Hinkley plays players for what they can do and puts up with them other than that. Eg Motlop. Yet we won’t play Narkle or Constable when we need contested ball and goals. I think Clarke is too injured and Stevens not in form or fitness, but Constable gets to contests and NarkLe has freaky skills. Again our selection will let us down. We are close but not brave enough to make the strong calls.

 

[calder_daddy]

Some of Dangerfield's decision making leaves a lot to be desired. Twice he broke away from the centre and surged forward only to try a sideways handball that missed the mark ... twice. He kicks blindly from packs, starts forward when we desperately need clearances and I counted several times he refused to chase his man out of defence.

So Patty, how about you stop walking around with your chest puffed out and focus on the stuff that matters.

I said this to my mates last night after the game and I quote “
I tell you one player who escapes finals scrutiny
Dangerfield”

 

[xtatik222k]

They tried their hearts out. Not clean, not accurate and not good enough. But you can’t say that they didn’t treat it seriously.

At this point, I don't really care anymore about this group of players. The sooner we see the back of them, and the coach, the better. They're a bunch of pea-hearted losers, and they have been for a long time. The worst thing about them is that each year, they give us some reason to think they've turned a corner. Tommy wins the Coleman, Guthrie makes the AA squad, Blicavs cements himself in the backline... Doesn't matter. Put them in a final and watch the joke unfold all over again. And it's not a good joke, it's the kind you get in Christmas bon-bons from Cunningham's Warehouse. Time after time. And we the supporters fall for their delusional shit and dare to believe that maybe, just maybe, things have changed. Well I'm bloody sick of it. Things haven't changed. This team has become the biggest laughing stock of the competition. And I can't blame anybody else for that. I'm just about laughing at them too. What a joke this once fantastic club has become. An absolute joke. Chris Scott was actually smiling in the press conference last night, after losing his 12th final from 16. Can you imagine Bomber being that casual? Or Dimma? Or Hinkley? Chris Scott can go **** himself. I'm so sick of his garbage performances in finals and his post-hoc bullshit rationalisations.

If we didn't currently have border restrictions, I'd seriously consider dropping a trailer-load of manure on the doorsteps of Kardinia Park with a guernsey pinned on top. That's how angry I am. This club of ours has slowly and surely been churned into a steaming pile of shit.

Rant over.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Taylor was ordinary. Motlop ran rings around him.

atkins justified nothing. Played as a mid and was terrible.

At what point was Motlop ever Taylor's responsibility?

 

[calder_daddy]

So can someone tell me if I’m correct.

Hawkins kicks bad = Chris Scott’s fault

Miers and Rohan have there worst games for the year in the same game = Chris Scott’s fault

Our defenders ran into each other twice last night resulting in Port Adelaide goals = Chris Scott’s fault

Should I continue or have I hit the nail on the head

 

[Grimoz]

I said this to my mates last night after the game and I quote “
I tell you one player who escapes finals scrutiny
Dangerfield”

But he was still our best player last night.