Preview Geelong v West Coast Sunday Apr 28 @ GMHBA

[cats_09]

He was in his second year of a three year rookie contract, which I already mentioned. Rookies were able to break their contracts if offered a better deal, which is what I already said. We did not offer him a 3 year deal, we had no money to increase his pay from the rookie list.

The we must be talking about a different player because Shane Mumford was out of contract and able to walk to the pre-season draft having rejected a 3-year contract offer from Geelong:

Due to salary-cap pressure, the Cats had no option other than to trade Mumford to the Swans at the end of 2009 after he had rejected a lesser three-year deal to stay with Geelong. In return, the Cats received selection No 28 in the national draft and recruited Mitch Duncan with the pick.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...h/news-story/6b56101fded7633a82267e7d20440224

 

[cats_09]

Do we seriously have no decent key position forwards in the reserves? Why did we sack Black if we dont have any back ups? Horrible mismanagement.

Because Black had reinvented himself as a defender, so wouldn't be much help as a forward - he has also just returned from his ACL injury, so probably not a viable option either.

In terms of forwards, we have Buzza & Freddie who are KPF types. But a "problem" we currently have is that all our rucks are available & not injured, it's easier to play a spare ruckman forward & hope they kick goals compared to try & teach them to play as defenders and hence why Freddie has been spending time in defence while Fort & Abbott have been kicking goals

 

[The Casey Cat]

But give Fort a few games and see how he goes... We have given Sav 5 games now so what's wrong with giving Fort 3 games to see what his got, as what Sav doing now isn't a rocket science role ...

Nope. Again we are going well and he's playing a role and allowing others to stay where we want them. We don't need to give Fort or anyone else anything at this point. Just leave him be.

Different story if he's injured.

 

[Gazza308]

Should have rested/dropped Sav.

I'm all for carrying certain types of players (and not dropping them after 1-2 bad games) but he has been s**t for 5 games. 0.2 goals,1.6 marks,5.8 hitouts av

Give him some time in the 2's and see if Abbott can play the role any better.

Well said , he has got a great pair of hands, his done well to get back so quickly after snapping his leg last year.

IMO his similar to Majak Daw, ability wise. So the future is definitely exciting.
But yeah would be good to give Abott a run.

 

[Ray Donovan]

We had mumfird and everyone preferred keeping nice guy mark blake instead.

He is no gun but he is a solid contributor who is quite a decent ruck player and whilst quite immobile he does fight for the ball on the ground and he can pluck a contested mark. He has more mongrel in him then Abbott. The notion he is soft as butter compared to our other rucks is wrong.

Mumford got offered a substantial deal at Sydney and geelong were not in a position to match

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Interesting that every team seems to drop the second ruck against us

Yet it isn't working. By the 4th quarter Stanley and his Sav chop out have worn out the oppo ruckman.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Mumford got offered a substantial deal at Sydney and geelong were not in a position to match

Mumford was also an absolute s**t house ruck in 09. Had a crack around the ground and worked hard. And obviously had potential. But was a liability in the ruck at the time.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Seriously? We're doing Mumford/Blake again? There is nothing new to say on this topic surely (and it's got nothing to do with the coming weekend's match).

Join date says 2004 but comment appears to be new here
Never underestimate the ability to rehash boring discussions on this board.

I too couldn't give a toss about Mummy or Blake anymore.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Nope. Again we are going well and he's playing a role and allowing others to stay where we want them. We don't need to give Fort or anyone else anything at this point. Just leave him be.

Different story if he's injured.

Yep. Structure is working. Small forwards getting access to crumbs.
Why dick around with it?

 

[BotsMaster]

Bit surprised to see Sav not getting a rest as I thought he was limping on Monday

 

[The Casey Cat]

Bit surprised to see Sav not getting a rest as I thought he was limping on Monday

Fort first emergency. Still 50/50 I'd say.

 

[foxdog50]

Problem is fort got a chance in jlt and was absolutely putrid. Too much of a risk bringing him in to the bigtime, would probably crap his pants.

It was a practice game....

 

[foxdog50]

Nope. Again we are going well and he's playing a role and allowing others to stay where we want them. We don't need to give Fort or anyone else anything at this point. Just leave him be.

Different story if he's injured.

I suppose we will agree to disagree on this.

 

[winty]

Problem is fort got a chance in jlt and was absolutely putrid. Too much of a risk bringing him in to the bigtime, would probably crap his pants.

Seem to remember Boris Enright stinking it up in a pre-season game one year, and ended the season in the AA side. Not saying Fort will be AA, but you can't put a line through players because of their form in February.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I suppose we will agree to disagree on this.

We will. Fort will get a game this year. Abbott too. Nothing needs to be rushed at the moment. There opportunity will come but they will have to really nail it as like it or not they are on the outer.

 

[steady2]

The we must be talking about a different player because Shane Mumford was out of contract and able to walk to the pre-season draft having rejected a 3-year contract offer from Geelong:

Due to salary-cap pressure, the Cats had no option other than to trade Mumford to the Swans at the end of 2009 after he had rejected a lesser three-year deal to stay with Geelong. In return, the Cats received selection No 28 in the national draft and recruited Mitch Duncan with the pick.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...h/news-story/6b56101fded7633a82267e7d20440224

Of course he could walk, he was a rookie, I have already dealt with this. There was no salary pressure keeping Mumford as a rookie, but we could not compete with the money Sydney were offering. You have misread the article, he had rejected a three-year deal FROM SYDNEY to stay with Geelong (after a visit from Bomber), so Sydney upped the deal to 4 years, which is what your previous article referred to. Please give it a rest.

 

[cats_09]

Of course he could walk, he was a rookie, I have already dealt with this. There was no salary pressure keeping Mumford as a rookie, but we could not compete with the money Sydney were offering. You have misread the article, he had rejected a three-year deal FROM SYDNEY to stay with Geelong (after a visit from Bomber), so Sydney upped the deal to 4 years, which is what your previous article referred to. Please give it a rest.

You're right - best off giving it a rest as this has gone off topic from the thread and that we clearly aren't going to form any agreement regardless of what articles & facts are presented.

 

[CatRiot]

Why do I have a feeling we are going to hear "dirty ball (entries)" this weekend.

 

[Larry Donohue]

No Barass opens it up for Hawk a little with good delivery.
Kelly and Duncan and Ablett need to hit him up

 

[Down at K Park]

It was a practice game....

And if you can’t get it done there, it doesn’t leave much scope in the real deal. He was worst on ground in both jlt games. Could barely get a hand on the ball and his hit out to advantage numbers were woeful.

 

[Ray Donovan]

Mumford was also an absolute s**t house ruck in 09. Had a crack around the ground and worked hard. And obviously had potential. But was a liability in the ruck at the time.

Might be over blowing the story a fair bit geelong went 18-4 regular season and big mummy played 18 games. Only played 3 before that year.

Come back lost 20kg for 09 then on the back of that liability Sydney offered him a long term deal when jolly went to the pies.



It's really just a wells masterstroke and let's be honest mark blake was a spud. Who ever got named in that team would of been a geelong premiership player.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Vardy apparently didn't get on the plane?

 

[cats_09]

Vardy apparently didn't get on the plane?

He hasn't had a great start to the year and was dropped due to poor form

 

[cats_09]

Lingy to miss the 09 celebrations on Sunday - he didn't say if it was Channel 7 requirements or what

 

[Vdubs]

Bit surprised to see Sav not getting a rest as I thought he was limping on Monday

He still might. It's only Friday.