Review Good/Bad vs Sydney, R19 2022

[LeftyLuke]

Do you understand why Nicks made that call ? ......and btw Dawson also played periods on the wing

Yes I have a fair idea. He likely sold him on the fact that he would be playing wing at the crows as he did at the swans. He played him yesterday where he would have played if he was still at the swans. Nicks likely felt guilty especially against his old side.

 

[Mutineer]

Some on here doubted bezza. Was a big fan of his from his first couple of games.

No doubt about it you're an absolute genius...

 

[George Kramer]

The ugly, McHenry being run down at a crucial stage when he should have kicked the goal

 

[Rix31]

2 weeks in a row ROB has had ZERO marks.

Remind me what he offers again?

He does a lot of bad taps. Covers heaps of ground very slowly. He is so uncoordinated, he struggles to get a decent handball or kick away uncontested. Turn the pressure up just a little and forget about it. Can't believe we panicked and gave him a long term deal

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[1970crow]

Yes, application from focus/concentration. Determination.

I noticed one thing yesterday which troubled me; third quarter I think.
Schoenberg was about a metre from (behind) a Sydney player who marked in their F50, pretty much uncontested. Schoenberg put his arms out in appeal, shook his head and looked around as if to say "Hey, who was supposed to be stopping this bloke?" or "What was I supposed to do?". At the time, I thought "That's on YOU {Schoenberg], mate".

Like Duursma (possibly), Schoenberg seems to have been affected by his early success and praise from last year without realising he was going to cop extra attention from opposition Coaches/players.
Then there are players like Berry and Soligo who lift to the new level and seem to enjoy the challenges of taking the pressure that goes with it.
Berry's individual efforts yesterday were outstanding; strong, aggressive and team-lifting.Those two goals reminded me of Petracca. Berry has a way to go, but I've loved watching him improve.

I think you're too focussed on Schoey. I was watching a bit on my phone while walking between holes and saw that numerous times from lots of players. Both in defensive scenarios like your example, but also after being beaten when ahead of the ball.

 

[LeftyLuke]

No doubt about it you're an absolute genius...

Takes a big person to admit the truth. See that wasn't that hard was it?

 

[1970crow]

TBF .....we brought the heat in the first qtr .....but SYD's pressure rating was off the chart ...and combined with a much more experienced finals side, whose teamwork was unbelievable ....yeah disappointing, but we did come to play

Again ....12 players under 50 games ....what really are people's expectations ??? ....do you expect to win every week, or do you want to see individual player improvement and competitive efforts ?

It's easy to potshot from the cheap seats .....nothing easier ...I could sit all day and pick the negatives of most posts, it's so easy ....same as to pot players who are young, learning & developing

But ask yourself why you follow a footy team .....because you'll have more down years than up years in sport .....if you can't see the positives from a game each week, why bother ??

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For a young group, to come back after being crushed in the 1st Qtr was fantastic .....it shows Nicks has the players, the players have a fighting spirit, which is going to be valuable in years to come

Certainly the footy media are admiring the gameday efforts of our team .....the wins will come with more experience, and the addition of another 2-3 players (SANFL, Draft, Trade)

Laird - has been lambasted unfairly in recent weeks ...the last 2 weeks, he has modified his game, and is using his legs to clear congestion, rather than handball or dump kick .....he's learn't & good coaching

Berry - Likewise, his improvement in recent weeks has been dramatic ....also using his legs & doesn't that benefit his game .....is it a coincidence we've seen the use of legs more, since Crouch has been dropped a 2nd time ?

ROB - OK, I've led the chorus on how average he is as a ruckman ....but I did admire, that he was jumping at bounces, rather than stand flat-footed and wrestle the opposing ruckman .....ground work, particularly marking

Soligo - smart footballer, 20 quality possessions .....not tiring as the season progresses ...but getting better

Murray - had my doubts on Murray, but the way he attacked the contest on the ground, showed he is improving, and taking on the line coach's words ......his #1 wood is in the air, confidence will see that aspect of his game become more prominent .....but his game was a real plus

Fogarty - leaping at the ball, is now being ingrained into his DNA ....and doesn't he look so much better for it

Thilthorpe - missed that critical mark in the 4th Qtr ....but his marking overall has been improving as the season progresses .....great signs for the lad

Parnell - I thought he was just a good kick / decision maker ....but the lad has a terrior attitude, that belies his size ...we gotta good one here

Was really disappointed in Hinge's game, made a lot of mistakes ......Doedee is fumbling too much, making too many mistakes, and his #1 wood in aerial marking has escaped him, from earlier this year ....has to be carrying an injury, he's better than he's showing

Cook, terrible ...an uncompetitive effort, that Nicks will hate .....he'll be back into the SANFL
Schoenberg, meh !

Apology
Sorry I haven't said ...we're ** ....the Coach is .....the list is **

I'm sorry for enjoying the fightback ....a competitive effort, that even the more experienced ESS supporters dream off

I'm sorry for enjoying the little improvements we're seeing in players ...week on week

Again, I was watching on phone whilst playing golf but did notice Laird actually using his legs in the contest. Only something I've been mentioning for months and months. And there was even one clearance where ROB got possession and even he took 2 strong steps with ball in hand prior to giving to Laird who then was clear of the pressure area and moving directly at our goals with ball in hand. From memory he hit Tex on a strong lead who fumbled it a bit but after 2 bites finished with it on the ground. If you think that's good coaching when I and others have been banging on about it for seasons, then you have very low expectations.

 

[1970crow]

Bad - Get ready for to win a couple of meaningless games against WCE and North to surge up the ladder and ruin pick 3.

Most bottom teams would be debuting players left right and centre right now to see what they have got. Not us! We hold true to the spuds who got us to 16th.

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they deserve the reward. Will be good for the passengers and injured guys that have been failing us to get reward fir their lack of output.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Bad - Get ready for to win a couple of meaningless games against WCE and North to surge up the ladder and ruin pick 3.

Most bottom teams would be debuting players left right and centre right now to see what they have got. Not us! We hold true to the spuds who got us to 16th.

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West coast can afford to win this one and still get pick 2. I think they may belt us. North is a different story. They may not send a team out in case they win if level with the Eagles. The lottery system would fix tanking. Maybe we could end up with pick 1 which would be nice. Well pick 2 or 3 at least after father sons and academy picks.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

best game of footy i’ve seen laird play I reacon..

instead of “kick and hopes” and pointless handballs he ran with the ball and more often than not found himself with time and space and the ability to do something valuable with it. I dont think i’ve ever seen him do that before. where has this part of his game been hiding?

Pardon the interruption.

I have to agree with this comment. I thought he gave a stellar performance and was easily bog on a tough day for your mob.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Do you understand why Nicks made that call ? ......and btw Dawson also played periods on the wing

Hi Wayneo.

JD was beaten in Q1 and of course your coach had to get one of his trumps into the game. Thought JD was serviceable.

 

[97-98]

Bad - Get ready for to win a couple of meaningless games against WCE and North to surge up the ladder and ruin pick 3.

Most bottom teams would be debuting players left right and centre right now to see what they have got. Not us! We hold true to the spuds who got us to 16th.

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GWS' remaining games are harder so every chance they finish below us.
With potential priority picks to North, compo for Taranto, Ashcroft F/S, we could end up with pick 7!

 

[adelaidecrows]

Didn't watch the game but can't give up a first quarter like that. Right out of the Nick's playbook though. Bet he talked about how they were resilient and kept coming all game. Shows rebuild is on track too I bet. Lol

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[Bearded Clam]

Bad - Get ready for to win a couple of meaningless games against WCE and North to surge up the ladder and ruin pick 3.

Most bottom teams would be debuting players left right and centre right now to see what they have got. Not us! We hold true to the spuds who got us to 16th.

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We wont beat WC in perth..

We’d be a better chance of beating Carlton next week at home than WC at an oval we barely ever win at..

 

[thebirdman 24]

We wont beat WC in perth..

We’d be a better chance of beating Carlton next week at home than WC at an oval we barely ever win at..

West Coast are really, really bad though.

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[Jeffcrowe]

I thought Dylan Stephens did some good things today for the Swans to say he probably has a future

Actually I’ve been a critic of him but agree

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Brayden Cook, how has he not played more games? Did you watch the game today? They keep giving the kid a crack and he’s just not close to AFL standard yet. We’re trying to get minutes into him but he’s not remotely capable of making a contribution at the moment.


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Uncompetitive

He may not be scared but he played like he was

Not close to AFL intensity

 

[killtaker1993]

We need a priority pick immediately and we need to cut the deadwood out

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

There’s a point where that stops being a good thing

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Re Schoenberg- whilst not in the form of last year I think he’s learning some good lessons

Confident he will add to our midfield next year and beyond if he keeps working on his fitness and stuff without the ball

Haven’t minded his last few games

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Murray is essentially the best sort of opponent for Franklin at this stage of his career, with his physical gifts fading, a big strong lad who likes to thump the ball and the man for good measure.

Buddy’s running patterns were out of this world

He was aware Murray is strong so tried to blow him up …. While occasionally looking exhausted Murray kept pushing . Loved being there live to see it

 

[CrowBloke]

I think you're too focussed on Schoey. I was watching a bit on my phone while walking between holes and saw that numerous times from lots of players. Both in defensive scenarios like your example, but also after being beaten when ahead of the ball.

Yeah, fair point.

I paid particular attention yesterday to Schoenberg, McHenry and ROB, actively looking/hoping for positive signs and not negatives.
All 3 were disappointing imo.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I've gone back and looked at how everyone has been voting on the "who played well" polls every week (round 4 onward), and done some averages to find our best players as voted by you on BigFooty.

Very interesting stuff so far

Top 5 Players
(Not in order)

Jordan Dawson
Taylor Walker
Rory Laird
Sam Berry
Jake Soligo

I can absolutely guarantee you this will not be the top 5 in the B&F at the Crows but it's hard to argue with really

Senior Players
Rory Laird - 49%*
Taylor Walker - 60%
Jordan Dawson - 65%

Ben Keays - 37%
Tom Doedee - 30%

Reilly O'Brien - 24%
Brodie Smith - 20%
Lachlan Murphy - 17%
Luke Brown - 11%
Matt Crouch - 11%
Wayne Milera - 11%

These are diabolically bad numbers for some players. On average only 20% of people think Brodie Smith plays well in a given week. Yikes! 11% for Luke Brown and he played 11 games!

Up and Comers

50+ % range
Sam Berry
Jake Soligo

30-50%
Brayden Cook - how has he not played more games
Will Hamill
Jackson Hately
Chayce Jones - maybe a surprise to some but he was well rated in earlier rounds
Shane McAdam
Patrick Parnell

20-30%
Billy Frampton
Elliott Himmelberg
Mitch Hinge - not well rated around here really, slides under the radar
Nick Murray
Josh Rachele - had a poor run of form
James Rowe
Lachlan Sholl
Kieran Strachan - slightly better rating than O'Brien
Riley Thilthorpe - only just building into it

Below 20%
Lachlan Gollant - counting started after his excellent Port game
Ned McHenry - how is he still in the team
Harry Schoenberg - poor year from him

*the percentage of people that believe the player has played well in a given week, averaged over all weeks played

The 2 most inaccurate would be Murray and Cook

Cook overrated and Murray underrated

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yep, fair assessment

IIRC the commentators did say early, the Crows are here to play ......it was just SYD's pressure was unreal

I'm getting the impression, we're not getting "spanked" in the midfield now, at CBA's, as we were for most of the season

Exactly what we were saying at the game

Sydney pressure was at its highest point and we weren’t able to handle it

It wasn’t like they were just turning up and handing us a thrashing because we were poor ……. Our response to their elite pressure was poor and ultimately that first quarter was the difference

A couple of errors from our less classy players when we were coming later also were costly

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I've gone back and looked at how everyone has been voting on the "who played well" polls every week (round 4 onward), and done some averages to find our best players as voted by you on BigFooty.

Very interesting stuff so far

Top 5 Players
(Not in order)

Jordan Dawson
Taylor Walker
Rory Laird
Sam Berry
Jake Soligo

I can absolutely guarantee you this will not be the top 5 in the B&F at the Crows but it's hard to argue with really

Senior Players
Rory Laird - 49%*
Taylor Walker - 60%
Jordan Dawson - 65%

Ben Keays - 37%
Tom Doedee - 30%

Reilly O'Brien - 24%
Brodie Smith - 20%
Lachlan Murphy - 17%
Luke Brown - 11%
Matt Crouch - 11%
Wayne Milera - 11%

These are diabolically bad numbers for some players. On average only 20% of people think Brodie Smith plays well in a given week. Yikes! 11% for Luke Brown and he played 11 games!

Up and Comers

50+ % range
Sam Berry
Jake Soligo

30-50%
Brayden Cook - how has he not played more games
Will Hamill
Jackson Hately
Chayce Jones - maybe a surprise to some but he was well rated in earlier rounds
Shane McAdam
Patrick Parnell

20-30%
Billy Frampton
Elliott Himmelberg
Mitch Hinge - not well rated around here really, slides under the radar
Nick Murray
Josh Rachele - had a poor run of form
James Rowe
Lachlan Sholl
Kieran Strachan - slightly better rating than O'Brien
Riley Thilthorpe - only just building into it

Below 20%
Lachlan Gollant - counting started after his excellent Port game
Ned McHenry - how is he still in the team
Harry Schoenberg - poor year from him

*the percentage of people that believe the player has played well in a given week, averaged over all weeks played

i think Hinge rates so low because whilst he does some things that look quite good including attack on the ball, he also does massive disappearing acts. I didn’t realise he was playing yesterday until after half time (ditto for a few others).