Society/Culture Hypocrisy of The Left - part 3

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The ABC attacking Scott Morrison religious beliefs.
https://www.news.com.au/national/po...n/news-story/af5c0ccd2f961e2eef4d14b52f11212d

The ABC and the left once again attacking Christianity but would never dare make fun of Islam.

Shut this garbage down.
They aren’t attacking Christianity (I wish they would). They are attacking Morrison’s failure to live up to christen ideals. They are supporting Christianity.

Ps. Your post is very snowflakey. Have you been hanging around hippy bludging art students?
 

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They aren’t attacking Christianity (I wish they would). They are attacking Morrison’s failure to live up to christen ideals. They are supporting Christianity.

Ps. Your post is very snowflakey. Have you been hanging around hippy bludging art students?
Seeds can you tell me why many on the left are happy to attack Christanity but wont say a word against Islam ?

I am not angry about them mocking Christianity, its more what's behind this. The left over the past 10years have gone on a very anti western campaign trying to find all the sins of western civilisation.

Our tax payer funded ABC should not be used by essentially green voters to launch an anti western campaign.
 

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The ABC attacking Scott Morrison religious beliefs.
https://www.news.com.au/national/po...n/news-story/af5c0ccd2f961e2eef4d14b52f11212d

The ABC and the left once again attacking Christianity but would never dare make fun of Islam.

Shut this garbage down.
Why wouldnt we as australians, attack christianity.

Between tens of thousands of kids molested by various religious sects to them enjoying a disproportionate political reach compared to the actual numbers that give a shit about godbothering.

The social issues they have held us back with - the medical advances they have done their best to stymie - their insistance that people who dont swallow their horseshit have to live by their imaginary beardy bloke in the skys made up (and cherry picked the living shit out of’s) rules.

If christians had sat there going “well if you wanna be a christian, these are the rules you gotta follow - dont do it, cant join”

We wouldnt have a problem - but its never been like that - its always been “heres my gods rules and we are going to make sure everyone has to obey them regardless of whether you believe or not - ooh look theres an attractive young boy” *molests


I have no doubt that the muslims would be no different IF they were in charge - but they arent. They are a tiny minority. All my life the religious dipshits have been telling australians what to do - never in my life has a muslim.

So guess whos going to cop shit when he becomes prime minister and hes a bloody fundie?
 

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Why wouldnt we as australians, attack christianity.

Between tens of thousands of kids molested by various religious sects to them enjoying a disproportionate political reach compared to the actual numbers that give a shit about godbothering.

The social issues they have held us back with - the medical advances they have done their best to stymie - their insistance that people who dont swallow their horseshit have to live by their imaginary beardy bloke in the skys made up (and cherry picked the living shit out of’s) rules.

If christians had sat there going “well if you wanna be a christian, these are the rules you gotta follow - dont do it, cant join”

We wouldnt have a problem - but its never been like that - its always been “heres my gods rules and we are going to make sure everyone has to obey them regardless of whether you believe or not - ooh look theres an attractive young boy” *molests


I have no doubt that the muslims would be no different IF they were in charge - but they arent. They are a tiny minority. All my life the religious dipshits have been telling australians what to do - never in my life has a muslim.

So guess whos going to cop shit when he becomes prime minister and hes a bloody fundie?
Notice how nearly all the countries in the world who enjoy the highest quality of life are Christian countries ?

Think of Christianity like a ship sometimes the crew have been bad and sometimes the passengers have been bad but the ship has always been good.

There is nothing in the bible at all about molesting, its very clearly a sin.

I also find it amusing that the left say Christianity has held us back but than advocate for socialism which has caused more deaths than any other ideology or religion.
 

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Notice how nearly all the countries in the world who enjoy the highest quality of life are Christian countries ?

Think of Christianity like a ship sometimes the crew have been bad and sometimes the passengers have been bad but the ship has always been good.

There is nothing in the bible at all about molesting, its very clearly a sin.

I also find it amusing that the left say Christianity has held us back but than advocate for socialism which has caused more deaths than any other ideology or religion.
Its europeans - that are the most advanced - at this very small few hundred year sliver of history

And thats in spite of christianity not because of it.

Learn some history bud - there were times that other religion/ cultures dominated the known world and were the most advanced - pretty fair to say the next century and beyond will be all about the chinese.
 

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Seeds can you tell me why many on the left are happy to attack Christanity but wont say a word against Islam ?

I am not angry about them mocking Christianity, its more what's behind this. The left over the past 10years have gone on a very anti western campaign trying to find all the sins of western civilisation.

Our tax payer funded ABC should not be used by essentially green voters to launch an anti western campaign.
Have you ever read the ABC?
 

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Its europeans - that are the most advanced - at this very small few hundred year sliver of history

And thats in spite of christianity not because of it.

Learn some history bud - there were times that other religion/ cultures dominated the known world and were the most advanced - pretty fair to say the next century and beyond will be all about the chinese.
What is and has been the major religion is Europe ? Christianity

Without Christanity we would of been nothing more than animals in a struggle for survival were the strong conquer the week.

You are the one who should learn some history, you have no clue how Christianity has given us the best quality of life mankind has ever had.

For example the idea of the weekend and an 8 hour working day can be traced back to the 4th commandment remember the sabbath and keep it holy. The meaning of this commandment don't be a slave to your work.

Can you point to what specifically in the NT has held back western society ?
 

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Seeds can you tell me why many on the left are happy to attack Christanity but wont say a word against Islam ?

I am not angry about them mocking Christianity, its more what's behind this. The left over the past 10years have gone on a very anti western campaign trying to find all the sins of western civilisation.

Our tax payer funded ABC should not be used by essentially green voters to launch an anti western campaign.
Another one of your broad generalised inflammatory statements. It just reflects your paranoia.
 

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What is and has been the major religion is Europe ? Christianity

Without Christanity we would of been nothing more than animals in a struggle for survival were the strong conquer the week.

You are the one who should learn some history, you have no clue how Christianity has given us the best quality of life mankind has ever had.

For example the idea of the weekend and an 8 hour working day can be traced back to the 4th commandment remember the sabbath and keep it holy. The meaning of this commandment don't be a slave to your work.

Can you point to what specifically in the NT has held back western society ?
More of the same broad & ill informed 'stuff'.

We probably got our best bits from Greek & Roman cultures anyway.

They called it 'the Dark Ages' for a reason. Thankfully we went through the Renaissance & the Enlightenment. It just took a millenia or so to fight off the chocking effects of the Catholic Church. Even now the religions resist logic, science & progress. They'll do anything to cling to power. Even raping children.

As far as work goes, I don't remember much Church resistance to slavery & child labour.

The 'Western' religions are really no better than the Islamic religions. Its just that in the West we proved better at fighting them off. Those poor buggers have yet to become Enlightened.
 

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What is and has been the major religion is Europe ? Christianity

Without Christanity we would of been nothing more than animals in a struggle for survival were the strong conquer the week.

You are the one who should learn some history, you have no clue how Christianity has given us the best quality of life mankind has ever had.

For example the idea of the weekend and an 8 hour working day can be traced back to the 4th commandment remember the sabbath and keep it holy. The meaning of this commandment don't be a slave to your work.

Can you point to what specifically in the NT has held back western society ?
Ihavnt got time to rebut all of your drivel.

But heres one bit:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/08/where-the-five-day-workweek-came-from/378870/
 

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More of the same broad & ill informed 'stuff'.

We probably got our best bits from Greek & Roman cultures anyway.

They called it 'the Dark Ages' for a reason. Thankfully we went through the Renaissance & the Enlightenment. It just took a millenia or so to fight off the chocking effects of the Catholic Church. Even now the religions resist logic, science & progress. They'll do anything to cling to power. Even raping children.

As far as work goes, I don't remember much Church resistance to slavery & child labour.

The 'Western' religions are really no better than the Islamic religions. Its just that in the West we proved better at fighting them off. Those poor buggers have yet to become Enlightened.
Can you tell me what part of the NT has held back western civilisation ?

No good saying the church did this or that because that is just humans behaving badly, what in the NT has held people back or is evil ?

The fundamental principal of the NT is to treat others like you would like to be treated and to take care of each other.

You have a very naïve view of how nature works, its nothing more than a battle of survival were the strong conquer the week and Christanity changed this. Without christanity we are just animals.

As for comparing christanity to Islam, Jesus never killed anyone while Muhammad was warlord.
 

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More of the same broad & ill informed 'stuff'.

We probably got our best bits from Greek & Roman cultures anyway.

They called it 'the Dark Ages' for a reason. Thankfully we went through the Renaissance & the Enlightenment. It just took a millenia or so to fight off the chocking effects of the Catholic Church. Even now the religions resist logic, science & progress. They'll do anything to cling to power. Even raping children.

As far as work goes, I don't remember much Church resistance to slavery & child labour.

The 'Western' religions are really no better than the Islamic religions. Its just that in the West we proved better at fighting them off. Those poor buggers have yet to become Enlightened.
Correct. The West's embrace of the enlightenment, secular humanist values and rejection of religious dogma is what has made it stand above Islamic countries.

Nothing to do with Christianity in the slightest.

GC26 is just regurgitating the talking points he has heard from the usual right wing hacks he listens to.

Mate don't quote me an article that advocates we shorten the working week and expect me to take any of it seriously. The whole thing is nonsense.

Can you tell me what in the New Testament held back western civilisation ?
Lol awesome goal post shift. New Testament..........let's just pretend the Old Testament doesn't exist hey. I suppose it kinda goes against the stupid narrative you are pushing that Christianity is so wonderful.
 

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Correct. The West's embrace of the enlightenment, secular humanist values and rejection of religious dogma is what has made it stand above Islamic countries.

Nothing to do with Christianity in the slightest.

GC26 is just regurgitating the talking points he has heard from the usual right wing hacks he listens to.



Lol awesome goal post shift. New Testament..........let's just pretend the Old Testament doesn't exist hey. I suppose it kinda goes against the stupid narrative you are pushing that Christianity is so wonderful.
Christanity is based around the NT in particular the 4 gospels, the OT simply sets the scene for the NT.

The renaissance was based around Christian ideology, you do realise those responsible for the renaissance were Christians ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_Christianity_in_civilization
 

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Without Christanity we would of been nothing more than animals in a struggle for survival were the strong conquer the week
The thing is, in its formative years up until only recently Christianity ONLY ever expanded through aggressive domination. Strong Christian Europeans invaded, subjugated or destroyed countless native religions and peoples because the 'savages' were so much weaker.
 
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The ABC attacking Scott Morrison religious beliefs.
https://www.news.com.au/national/po...n/news-story/af5c0ccd2f961e2eef4d14b52f11212d

The ABC and the left once again attacking Christianity but would never dare make fun of Islam.

Shut this garbage down.
They weren't making fun of Christianity. They were highlighting the Hypocricy of a Christian advocating for the detention of children.

And I'm sorry, but Morrisson left himself open to that. He named his religion as a reason he voted against SSM. That opens him up to criticism on those grounds.

And it wasnt 'The ABC and the Left' that did it you clown. It was a Comedian.

Is this Comedian also 'the Left'?
 
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The fundamental principal of the NT is to treat others like you would like to be treated and to take care of each other.
Yeah.

Not 'Mandatory detention of refugee children in offshore detention centres until they can be deported to an active war-zone'

Note the difference?

If you're going to sit there in Parliament and cite your religious convictions as being the reason you vote a certain way on Legislation, you open yourself up to criticism on those grounds.

This goes for any Religion.
 
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/islam

There is what those 'hypocrites' at the ABC and 'the Left' have to say about Islam geelong_crazy26. These are just some of the stories in the first few pages of the section on Islam on the ABC's website:
  • Some imams in Australia are still teaching that the Koran permits husbands to beat their wives, with police reporting Muslim men cite scripture to justify their abuse. Now a new generation of faith leaders is working to undo the damage.

  • A jury is shown graphic Islamic State propaganda videos allegedly found on the phone of a woman accused of being a member of the terrorist organisation. Australian Party senator Fraser Anning says that a majority of Muslims in Australia of working age do not work and live on welfare.
  • Katter's Australian Party senator Fraser Anning says that Muslims in NSW and Victoria are three times more likely than other groups to be convicted of crimes.
  • A kindergarten in Indonesia's East Java province apologises for dressing students in niqabs and fake assault rifles, as part of a local Independence Day parade.
  • The Malaysian Government's plan to introduce a dress code for Muslim women in the workplace sparks a backlash from women's rights groups, which accuse officials of acting like "fashion police".
  • As women in Saudi Arabia celebrate their right to drive from today, some of the women who campaigned hardest to get them there will not be allowed to join them.
  • Imtiaz Shams, the founder of UK not-for-profit Faith to Faithless, goes over arguments he encounters that are used to discredit former Muslims.
  • Caught between their secular beliefs and Islam, a secret network of former Muslims across the country lead double lives because they fear disownment and abuse.
  • A report from Indonesia's State Intelligence Agency also finds that 24 per cent of university students are in favour of supporting jihad to establish an Islamic "caliphate".
THE FILTHY LEFT! Standing up for and never critical of Isla.... oh wait.
 

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Christanity is based around the NT in particular the 4 gospels, the OT simply sets the scene for the NT.

The renaissance was based around Christian ideology, you do realise those responsible for the renaissance were Christians ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_Christianity_in_civilization
Maybe, but thankfully we run society on rationality, logic & science. Well most of us try to anyway. :)

When you are born & have your head shoved in cold water, you are baptised a Christian. You have no choice. What you do after may or may not have much to do with the 'faith'.

Clearly those who championed the truth & reality of the Churches dominating & enslaving behaviour, did us a great favour. Many suffered & died fighting that violent, corrupt & vicious organisation.

We owe them a great debt for what freedoms we have now.

People can 'believe' & have faith & go to church. But don't try & inflict the church on us all. They do not have that right. We can & will criticise behaviour in & by church persons. Much of it is slowly coming to light. Thankfully we are now pealing back their lies & protections. However their is still a long way to go.

Wait until the new enlightenment gets to such places as the Philippines & Brazil. OMG, what did the bastards get up to with those millions of poor kids?
 

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I would argue that's a good thing.

There are plenty of Christian ideals that should be left in the past.
This may be true but it’s not what the abc are doing. They clearly aren’t attacking christian values. For christian supporters to pretend they are is pathetic. Probably cos most christians don’t live up to christian values and they see morrisons failure in themselves. So lash out at the abc for pointing it out.
 
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