Society/Culture Hypocrisy of The Left - part 3

[CheapCharlie]

Should the Australian left start discussing Indigenous issues?

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The Australian left do discus indigenous issues already

My point is, rather than focusing on American Black racism and Black Lives matters issues, they should be putting all that energy into causes and discrimination and inequality and injustices that really do matter. You can choose indigenous issues, or a host of other world issues that involve racism, genocide, sexual abuse of women, inequality, etcetera

Blacks Lives Matter must surely be one of the most self indulgent and narcissistic race equality movements to hit America. Yet the Australian media is constantly reporting the non news surrounding this issue, when that energy could be redirected to issues where a difference could be made.

That the media and the Australian public get so worked up about racism in America can only be put down to some sort of naive privileged virtue signalling

 

[bfff]

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The Australian left do discus indigenous issues already

My point is, rather than focusing on American Black racism and Black Lives matters issues, they should be putting all that energy into causes and discrimination and inequality and injustices that really do matter. You can choose indigenous issues, or a host of other world issues that involve racism, genocide, sexual abuse of women, inequality, etcetera

Blacks Lives Matter must surely be one of the most self indulgent and narcissistic race equality movements to hit America. Yet the Australian media is constantly reporting the non news surrounding this issue, when that energy could be redirected to issues where a difference could be made.

That the media and the Australian public get so worked up about racism in America can only be put down to some sort of naive privileged virtue signalling

Police officers have killed unarmed black citizens. Do you honestly think the murder of people by those who are supposed to protect them doesn’t matter?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Police officers have killed unarmed black citizens. Do you honestly think the murder of people by those who are supposed to protect them doesn’t matter?

Sure it matters, but it isnt a global issue. Its a minor internal issue for the United States

 

[quotemokc]

Police officers have killed unarmed black citizens. Do you honestly think the murder of people by those who are supposed to protect them doesn’t matter?

I guess they have never killed unarmed white citizens then?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Police officers have killed unarmed black citizens. Do you honestly think the murder of people by those who are supposed to protect them doesn’t matter?

More unarmed white Americans have been killed by police officers in America and more deaths to African Americans have been caused by African Americans than any other group.

Where are the “white lives matter” marching?

People on the left side need to use reason and logic instead of emotions and irrationality.

 

[demontim27]

More unarmed white Americans have been killed by police officers in America and more deaths to African Americans have been caused by African Americans than any other group.

Where are the “white lives matter” marching?

People on the left side need to use reason and logic instead of emotions and irrationality.

Can you provide the stats for your above claims

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Can you provide the stats for your above claims

It’s over double the amount of killings by police officers are directed at white Americans than any other group.

Can you provide the stats for your above claims

You can google it yourself it’s everywhere.

Further to add to that, blacks also occupy 39% of American jails and prisons. Indicating blacks are more exposed to the police through crimes as a percentage, yet double the amount of white people are shot dead each year.

 

[demontim27]

It’s over double the amount of killings by police officers are directed at white Americans than any other group.


You can google it yourself it’s everywhere.

Further to add to that, blacks also occupy 39% of American jails and prisons. Indicating blacks are more exposed to the police through crimes as a percentage, yet double the amount of white people are shot dead each year.

Well no, you’re claiming a stat. You’ve obviously got it. Asking someone to find the stat that you’re referencing is disingenuous at best (although reading your moronic posts, I wouldn’t assume the best)

 

[Bradesmaen]

Well no, you’re claiming a stat. You’ve obviously got it. Asking someone to find the stat that you’re referencing is disingenuous at best (although reading your moronic posts, I wouldn’t assume the best)

In other words in typical GC style, it's made up and he's trolling.

 

[demontim27]

But a new study led by Boston University School of Public Health (BUSPH) researchers finds states with a greater degree of structural racism, particularly residential segregation, have higher racial disparities in fatal police shootings of unarmed victims.

Published in the Journal of the National Medical Association, this is the first study to examine the relationship between structural racism and racial disparities in fatal police shootings at the state level. Even controlling for rates of arrest, the researchers found a strong association between the racial disparity in unarmed fatal police shootings and a range of structural racism indicators, with residential segregation showing the most pronounced association.

"The problem of police killings of unarmed black victims should not be viewed merely as a problem of flawed action on the part of individual police officers, but more as a consequence of the broader problem of structural racism," said senior author Michael Siegel, professor of community health sciences at BUSPH. "Unjustified homicide by police should be added to the long list of the public health consequences of societal racism."

But it’s okay guys. Because a random “capitalist” from Geelong said there’s no racism. It’s obviously bias on the researchers part, and the random person knows more than them.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

But it’s okay guys. Because a random “capitalist” from Geelong said there’s no racism. It’s obviously bias on the researchers part, and the random person knows more than them.

He's an elaborate troll. Not worth the time.

 

[Maggie5]

Police in Cincinnati released bodycam video on Tuesday of an officer telling an 11-year-old girl, after he used a taser on her for allegedly shoplifting, that "this is why there aren’t any grocery stores in the Black community," an internal review showed.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/cincinnat...-year-suspected-shoplifting/story?id=57635409
https://abcnews.go.com/US/cincinnat...-year-suspected-shoplifting/story?id=57635409
I can just see it happening in a 'white' neighborhood but I wonder which shop they wouldn't have because they were white. A pub?

 

[pugsville]

Further to add to that, blacks also occupy 39% of American jails and prisons. Indicating blacks are more exposed to the police through crimes as a percentage, yet double the amount of white people are shot dead each year.

Black and white Americans use drugs at much the same rates. They did not go to jail at the same rates for drug offenses.

 

[pugsville]

Historically American blacks have suffered racism, but this notion that there is still deeply entrenched racism in government and police and their procedures is far fetched.

The idea that we started being racist just 5 minutes ago so it's over for oppressed groups is astonishingly naive.

long standing racist polices are responsible in part for much of the poverty of Black Americans that generally missed out on much of the uplift of the 20th century. Black Americans had their culture , society and families totally destroyed by slavery, it's quite different form a migrant experience. At teh bottom, suffering from racism it;'s hard to get ahead in the USA for blacks, then as as legislated discrimination is rolled back, unofficial methods, like red lining create teh urban ghettos in the mid 20th century,

Juts the end of discrimination and racism still leaves people dealing with massive long term effects.

poor people are always much more represented in criminal statistics, they do commit more crime, but also they are prosecuted at a much higher rate Black and white Americans use drugs at the same rate. Prosecution is not even handed. In western society Money matters, it's one thing to have rights it's another to enforce them. Those at the bottom can't afford lawyers, their rights can often remain theoretical.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

He's an elaborate troll. Not worth the time.

KV is an elaborate ANTIFA troll. Not worth the time

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Black and white Americans use drugs at much the same rates. They did not go to jail at the same rates for drug offenses.

52% of homocides are committed by blacks in America. Despite only representing 13% of the population in America.

They also represent the majority ofjails n America. Yet despite all the evidence stating blacks are more heavily involved in serious crime and wrong doing in America we have twice as many whites shot dead by police.

Black lives is just a selfish movement to gain profit and benefits.

 

[bfff]

52% of homocides are committed by blacks in America. Despite only representing 13% of the population in America.

They also represent the majority ofjails n America. Yet despite all the evidence stating blacks are more heavily involved in serious crime and wrong doing in America we have twice as many whites shot dead by police.

Black lives is just a selfish movement to gain profit and benefits.

Do you have a source for this?

 

[The Passenger]

He's an elaborate troll. Not worth the time.

Your'e being generous with the word elaborate.

 

[Chief]

Where are the “white lives matter” marching?

Get marching if you feel so strongly.

 

[The Passenger]

I thought women replacing men was the domain of soyboy latte sipping lefties.

It would seem diversity has no limits.

 

[pugsville]

52% of homocides are committed by blacks in America. Despite only representing 13% of the population in America.

They also represent the majority ofjails n America. Yet despite all the evidence stating blacks are more heavily involved in serious crime and wrong doing in America we have twice as many whites shot dead by police.

Black lives is just a selfish movement to gain profit and benefits.

Just roll on by without actually addressing the asrgument

Roll out your set price statement again without engaging in any sort of debate.

Why are you so opposed to actually engaging with reality?

 

[CheapCharlie]

From the linked article
https://nypost.com/2017/09/26/all-that-kneeling-ignores-the-real-cause-of-soaring-black-homicides/
"The FBI released its official crime tally for 2016 on Monday, and the data flies in the face of the rhetoric that professional athletes rehearsed in revived Black Lives Matter protests over the weekend.

Nearly 900 additional blacks were killed in 2016 compared with 2015, bringing the black homicide victim total to 7,881. Those 7,881 “black bodies,” in the parlance of Ta-Nehisi Coates, are 1,305 more than the number of white victims (which in this case includes most Hispanics) for the same period, though blacks are only 13 percent of the nation’s population.

The increase in black homicides last year comes on top of a previous 900-victim increase between 2014 and 2015.

Who is killing these black victims? Not whites, and not the police, but other blacks.

In 2016, the police fatally shot 233 blacks, the vast majority armed and dangerous, according to the Washington Post. The paper categorized only 16 black male victims of police shootings as “unarmed.” That classification masks assaults against officers and violent resistance to arrest.

Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer.

Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers — committed vastly and disproportionately by black males.

Among all homicide suspects whose race was known, white killers of blacks numbered only 243.

Violent crime has now risen by a significant amount for two consecutive years. The total number of violent crimes rose 4.1 percent in 2016, and estimated homicides rose 8.6 percent.

In 2015, violent crime rose by nearly 4 percent and estimated homicides by nearly 11 percent. The last time violence rose two years in a row was 2005-06"

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Do you have a source for this?

Since you can’t use basic google search here is the data for people shot dead in America by the police categorized by race.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

 

[Frank Bunn]

I was going to attend the Nigel Farage event in Melbourne last night but didn't go because I felt intimidated by the potential for violent protests. My fears were justified.

around 200 anti-racism protesters tried to block guests from entering. Police often had to form a human barrier around the guests and guide them through the crowd of protesters.​

www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-08/nigel-farage-protests-break-out-at-melbourne-event/10215804

Those on the moderate left should be condemning such action but instead we see the Victorian government aiding and abetting the violent protesters by imposing police charges on the organisers of a speaking event.

A Victorian police spokeswoman also confirmed Victorian police would be charging Mr Farage's event organisers for the use of police resources, but have not confirmed how much.​

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Good.

You forgot to mention one of those arrested was a 'former' nazi who has been associated with the bloke planning to blow up Trades Hall.