Jacinta Allan - 49th Victorian Premier.

[The Punter]

No way known Andrews is going to the Senate. That is too much work he has proven he has no time for: parliamentary sittings, committee hearings, etc. Andrews rarely was in the Legislative Assembly outside question time, and obviously detested appearing at parliamentary committee hearings.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Does ol mate really want to hop back on the wagon?

I think he's rather happy to be wacking them off the tee.

 

[QuietB]

No, they're an integrated health body incorporating hospital care and other kinds of care.

Colac is a funny place. There is money in the surrounding farmland but the town itself displays little evidence of it. There are a few large scale employers (of which Colac Health would be one). It's far enough from the next large town (Geelong, Ballarat and Warrnambool are all at least an hour away) that it doesn't really have too much of a strong relationship with any of them.

Colac gave us Luke Hodge. Probabaly one of the most important towns in Australia in the 80’s/90’s nurturing that young man.

 

[Xtreme]

I think he's rather happy to be wacking them off the tee.

I thought no club wanted him?

 

[Satan]

The Allan government will not release a long-awaited report into an injecting room for Melbourne’s CBD this week, despite the upper house ordering the government to hand it over.
Despite persistent calls for its release, the government has been sitting on the report by former cop top Ken Lay since receiving it early last year.

The Legislative Council late last month passed a motion ordering the Allan government to release the report, giving them a deadline of March 6.

 

[Rob R]

Lol overpaid based on what

The experience provided by three aunts, a cousin and an uncle who are teachers in different parts of Victoria and SA (1 aunt).

Two main points -

There is no differentiation in pay based on teachers actual performance and extra hours.

The increasing number of teachers who barely work 30hrs a week with will above normal leave allowances (driven by the first point which encourages teachers to do the bare minimum)

Simple solution, cut basic teachers pay to reflect the actual work and introduce a system that recognises the extra work and performance of the minority that deserve - they will get a significant payrise funded by the deserved cut to Others and it will encourage better performance

At the same time, introduce laws to make it easier to expel violent and disruptive students eg. undo the disastrous experiment at Shepparton which is seeing teachers increasingly threatened but stats improving by ignoring/downplaying incidents.

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[Gralin]

The experience provided by three aunts, a cousin and an uncle who are teachers in different parts of Victoria and SA (1 aunt).

Two main points -

There is no differentiation in pay based on teachers actual performance and extra hours.

The increasing number of teachers who barely work 30hrs a week with will above normal leave allowances (driven by the first point which encourages teachers to do the bare minimum)

Simple solution, cut basic teachers pay to reflect the actual work and introduce a system that recognises the extra work and performance of the minority that deserve - they will get a significant payrise funded by the deserved cut to Others and it will encourage better performance

At the same time, introduce laws to make it easier to expel violent and disruptive students eg. undo the disastrous experiment at Shepparton which is seeing teachers increasingly threatened but stats improving by ignoring/downplaying incidents.

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* me dead that wasn't worth the wait

 

[Sttew]

A bit rich of Lily D'Ambrosia to criticise the PBO report on revised increased costings for the SRL as "bogus" and "unreliable" when A). we are yet to see any detailed business case with costings from the government, and, B) the state government's track record on budgeted costs is hardly anything to brag about.

 

[The Punter]

A bit rich of Lily D'Ambrosia to criticise the PBO report on revised increased costings for the SRL as "bogus" and "unreliable". A). We are yet to see any detailed business case with costings from the government, and, B). The state government's track record on budgeted costs is hardly anything to brag about.

Not the first time the Andrews/Allan Government has whacked an independent office of the Parliament.

 

[Skeppersap]

Pretty quiet on big footy surrounding the ever expanding SLR costs. It has the potential to cripple a broke state for generations, yet the Labor faithful would prefer to turn a blind eye.

A cost overrun of $16b? How many more billion will it be tomorrow?

Eventually the devil you don't know has to become a better option than this state destroying government.

 

[Sttew]

Pretty quiet on big footy surrounding the ever expanding SLR costs. It has the potential to cripple a broke state for generations, yet the Labor faithful would prefer to turn a blind eye.

A cost overrun of $16b? How many more billion will it be tomorrow?

Eventually the devil you don't know has to become a better option than this state destroying government.

Everything about how the SRL was conceived right down to the business case and lack of information stinks. In good times when the state isn't riddled with crippling debt the SRL might be a a good project, but not at the moment.

Seriously, when the government has to 'cancel' the airport rail link, level crossing upgrades on the Upwey line, the Geelong fast train and other projects does that not tell you SRL is not financially viable. We read in the press this morning construction workers on the airport rail have been paid $67 million NOT to work, you've got to ask are we the public of Victoria being taken for a ride? And its not on the airport rail link!

Allan government spends $67 million to pause building Airport Rail link

Contractors on Melbourne’s airport rail link have been paid $67 million to delay to the project.

www.theage.com.au

 

[peetoo]

You guys are aware the population of Melbourne will probably double in the lifetime of the SRL

Look back in history ate similar works when the population shoots up.

This is quite pedestrian in comparison

 

[Sttew]

You guys are aware the population of Melbourne will probably double in the lifetime of the SRL

Look back in history ate similar works when the population shoots up.

This is quite pedestrian in comparison

And that's the reason why we should turn a blind eye to what is happening? If the government can "pause" the airport rail link, why can't it do the same with SRL?

We are yet to hear how the SRL Stage 1 will be funded, Can you tell me? The Feds have chipped in, I think, $2.2 Billion, and the State government, $10 billion. Where does the rest come from? We are told the first stage alone will cost $30 -34.5 Billion minimum, but with the state's track record you know that will probably end up being $50+ billion.

 

[peetoo]

Most funding probably comes from stamp duty.

I hate the tax personally but it mitigates it somewhat that it’s being spent largely on infrastructure.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

A bit rich of Lily D'Ambrosia to criticise the PBO report on revised increased costings for the SRL as "bogus" and "unreliable" when A). we are yet to see any detailed business case with costings from the government, and, B) the state government's track record on budgeted costs is hardly anything to brag about.

There is a bit of BS from the PBO particularly in the operational costs. There is not a person on this planet can accurately guess what someone is going to be paid or what something will cost to operate 50 years from now. Let alone 10.

Most of it is just a rehash of the 22 report.

There is a change from the 2022 PBO report. In 22 they were claiming SRL East would cost 36.5 billion. It's now down to 32.8

 

[Gralin]

never mind the fact that 50 years of operating costs of public transport infrastructure should not be lumped into the build cost from a project management perspective

but it lets the HUN say costs blow out and what they largely mean is inflation

 

[The Punter]

Everything is blowing out.

I think the bigger issue is while tens of billions are spent on a rail link from one already well serviced area to another (you can catch trains from Box Hill to Cheltenham already, it just takes longer), you need to catch a V/Line train from Ardeer to the City, when Ardeer is 16km from the CBD and is clearly a suburb of Melbourne. The reason money isn't being spent on the West is purely political.

FWIW, I wouldn't be surprised if only the Cheltenham-Box Hill part gets built. That's where the marginal seats are.

 

[Gralin]

This is s**t as is the vic big housing build program which is mostly privatisation for developer gain

Renowned homelessness scheme gutted with 1500 fewer people to benefit

The Allan government is set to slash funding for a program with proven success at getting people off the streets, despite a decline in the number of housing spots available for homeless Victorians over six months last year.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Xtreme]

Sure lets add a few more billion to the debt while in a cost of living crisis - so much more could/should be done with that kind of money instead of transportation.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Everything is blowing out.

I think the bigger issue is while tens of billions are spent on a rail link from one already well serviced area to another (you can catch trains from Box Hill to Cheltenham already, it just takes longer), you need to catch a V/Line train from Ardeer to the City, when Ardeer is 16km from the CBD and is clearly a suburb of Melbourne. The reason money isn't being spent on the West is purely political.

FWIW, I wouldn't be surprised if only the Cheltenham-Box Hill part gets built. That's where the marginal seats are.

Yeah I tend to agree. If they were serious about SRL north then the airport station design concepts would look a lot different

 

[peetoo]

Sure lets add a few more billion to the debt while in a cost of living crisis - so much more could/should be done with that kind of money instead of transportation.

Are you saying the crisis will last 30 years? In that case there are steeper problems than the SRL

 

[Xtreme]

Are you saying the crisis will last 30 years? In that case there are steeper problems than the SRL

The cost of living crisis will sort itself out. But Victoria is already in a big financial hole, there's zero need to keep adding to it.

 

[eddiesmith]

Did laugh today, one of the Allan Labor Governments Ministers came to do a big announcement. But because they didn’t want to answer any questions about all the government stuff ups they decided to not invite the media and will just do a press release with staged photos…

 

[Saint]

Yeah I tend to agree. If they were serious about SRL north then the airport station design concepts would look a lot different

Not necessarily. If they're using driverless trains, there's nothing stopping it turning into the station then heading back along the same bit of track for a kilometre before heading out to the north. It doesn't have to be a "through station" if it's driverless. It can change direction.

I still think SRL is too expensive compared to other transport projects. I'm yet to be convinced that one big CBD plus 4 small ones is better than just expanding the existing CBD into Collingwood and Fishermans Bend via Metro 2 for half the price.

I also agree with The Punter that after Cheltenham to Box Hill is built and patronage is minimal that they won't bother with connecting it to the north under the Yarra.

They haven't even got arterial rail in the west, not sure why they'd bother with orbital. Especially since they can't afford the arterial because of SRL East. Geelong Fast Rail and Western Rail Plan both canned in favour of SRL.

 

[peetoo]

Wow the population will double and the hub and spokes system will cope?

Need to remove the need for journeys