Julia Gillard's Communist party connections - a warning to the people of Australia.

[Hawk Dork]

and I thought BA Santamaria was dead.

 

[King Elvis]

Yeah, I suspect that the Libs they will hammer this point all the way to the election.

Then, provided they somehow win a few seats and continue to exist in some form of significance, the Libs might finally realise that this isn't 1950 anymore, and no one is afraid of the Reds under the bed, no one is afraid of socialism, no one is afraid of foreigners, and no one is afraid of non-christian, secular values and lifestyles.

But we will still care about working families. Obviously.

Except when they invest in our country.

don't under estimate the fear of foreigners.
its their major weapon
Racist voters are swinging voters

And rape our resources.

About time we had a Socialist at the top to counter the pitfalls of Capitalism. Look where that has got us. This isn't America where people s**t themselves over the word "communism"

Where has it gotten us?

One of the most resilient economies in the world, and one of the highest standards of living in the world...

Where has socialism gotten Greece and Spain?

 

[Malifice]

It's disturbing people don't mind if we have a socialist/communist as a leaderm who's economic policies may affect us far more than any Abbott social policy would.

You're funny.

You don't even believe yourself.

The scary thing is the people will not be forced into communism, out of brain washing -the people will demand it.

As opposed to..?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Except when they invest in our country.



And rape our resources.



Where has it gotten us?

One of the most resilient economies in the world, and one of the highest standards of living in the world...

Where has socialism gotten Greece and Spain?

Or Norway

48% of Australian Shares are now foreign owned all time record.

 

[Dawson]

I think it was just a way of trying to move away from the dirty word of Communist, but it's still basically the same thing, and only leftists try to make outr it isn't.

It should worry people that our PM is a Fabian, it will compromise her politics.

Even they say they want to ""advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means".

They infiltrate their way into any political party and once assuming a position of power begin to change policy untill you have a great big Cultural Marxist doctrine. Gough Whitlam once attempted to do what Julia may do.

For goodness sake, we could be about to vote in a Marxist Communist as our leader and the average Australian hasn't a clue.

You don't really understand the ALP do you?

 

[King Elvis]

Or Norway

48% of Australian Shares are now foreign owned all time record.

Wasn't the Norway thing refuted on TLS?

And that's globalism for you, I guess.

 

[E Shed]

As has already been pointed out, it's absurd to try and tar someone with the colours they wore as a student. People get older and wiser and idealism goes by the wayside with the practical realisations of living in the real world.
What is relevant to me is that people who are attracted to systems like Communism initially are usually motivated by ideas like equality and social justice for all. On the other hand, in my experience, those attracted to the right of politics are motivated by self interest and the desire to have more than others or they want to control the way others live their lives and who they sleep with.
Their is nothing inherently wrong with wanting a more compassionate world. Of course Communism doesn't work in real life because it gets corrupted by people who are imperfect but the same happens to capitalism as has just been proved by the GFC.
America has just undergone the single greatest theft of public money in human history by the financial classes who underwrite the government and control the Federal Reserve. Generations have been condemned to debt slavery so that Banksters didn't have to make good their gambling debts and can continue to receive their million dollar bonuses. That's not capitalism it's organised crime. And we are all going to hell because we have a Prime Minister who dressed up as a commie while at Uni?
Please!

 

[Contra Mundum]

I think it was just a way of trying to move away from the dirty word of Communist, but it's still basically the same thing, and only leftists try to make outr it isn't.

It should worry people that our PM is a Fabian, it will compromise her politics.

Even they say they want to ""advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means".

They infiltrate their way into any political party and once assuming a position of power begin to change policy untill you have a great big Cultural Marxist doctrine. Gough Whitlam once attempted to do what Julia may do.

For goodness sake, we could be about to vote in a Marxist Communist as our leader and the average Australian hasn't a clue.

Yeh those horrible Fabians - talking their way to socialism all over Australia!

 

[Contra Mundum]

Yeah, I suspect that the Libs they will hammer this point all the way to the election.

Then, provided they somehow win a few seats and continue to exist in some form of significance, the Libs might finally realise that this isn't 1950 anymore, and no one is afraid of the Reds under the bed, no one is afraid of socialism, no one is afraid of foreigners, and no one is afraid of non-christian, secular values and lifestyles.

But we will still care about working families. Obviously.

It will have no resonance because it has no substance. No one under 30 knows what a Communist is FFS!

 

[patsmith]

brain washing

I find it ironic that you're lecturing anyone about being brain-washed...

 

[Can Opener]

A couple of weeks?

I was busy for a couple of days.

Some of us have to work for a living son, to pay for this tax payer funded 10 billion dollar annual donation to Clive Palmer et al. on which you're so keen.

When you finish uni and stop being totally reliant on your parents, you might understand that some of us need to work for a living.
If you ever earn an income, you might even feel a little sick in the guts that you have to work that much harder to pay the additional tax for Clive's little annual tax payer funded stipend.

Although you are unlikely to be independent of your parents until the poor long suffering souls pass away.

For what its worth im an electrician, it actually pay's really well. Ohh and i dont work that hard, my union makes sure of that

 

[Can Opener]

Unlike Bob Brown, the leaders of both the right wing parties, are controlled by the factions within their parties.

I would also expand to include Big business and Unions

 

[Tetley Tigers]

I think it was just a way of trying to move away from the dirty word of Communist, but it's still basically the same thing, and only leftists try to make outr it isn't.

It should worry people that our PM is a Fabian, it will compromise her politics.

Even they say they want to ""advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means".

They infiltrate their way into any political party and once assuming a position of power begin to change policy untill you have a great big Cultural Marxist doctrine. Gough Whitlam once attempted to do what Julia may do.

For goodness sake, we could be about to vote in a Marxist Communist as our leader and the average Australian hasn't a clue.

Define Marxist Communist because you seem to be using that term rather loosely. I am amazed at the number of people that throw the word communist around without actually knowing what it means. Communism essentially means that the government controls the means of production with equality of outcome being the main goal.

I don't think that is going to happen in Australia.

Australian politics is essentially fought in the middle ground and any lurch either to the left or the right usually results in the government of the day being thrown out of office.

Out of interest have you actually ever lived in a country controlled by Communists?

 

[Schism]

I think it was just a way of trying to move away from the dirty word of Communist, but it's still basically the same thing, and only leftists try to make outr it isn't.

It should worry people that our PM is a Fabian, it will compromise her politics.

Even they say they want to ""advance the socialist cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means".

They infiltrate their way into any political party and once assuming a position of power begin to change policy untill you have a great big Cultural Marxist doctrine. Gough Whitlam once attempted to do what Julia may do.

For goodness sake, we could be about to vote in a Marxist Communist as our leader and the average Australian hasn't a clue.

ahh...the old "socialist means communist" chant from an arch-wingnutter...thought i was on hannity.com forums there for a sec.

http://www.dictionary.com

 

[Dry Rot]

Gillard a commie? Surely the OP is taking the piss?

Absurd thread.

 

[Jabso]

Remember - before you vote, think:

Do we really want a fabian communist running Australia?

Yes. We really do.

You can't stop us. We're coming for all of you!

BETTER RED THAN DEAD.

DON'T BUY WAR BONDS.

 

[Hawkamania!]

Red(head)s under the bed!

*boom tish*

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Moo - why do we have to put up with mentally impaired bigots like Kevin and Military Man on these forums? I'm all for entertaining different points of view, but these guys are downright offensive.

I guess we can be thankful that we're not seeing the same skinhead-type racist rantings and ravings from these sorts of characters round here at the moment that we had from the likes of MM, Ted, BB and others last year.

Every once in a while, these Stormfront types drag their ugly carcasses into this place, and it's never pretty when they do...

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Who on here doesn't believe in some form of universal healthcare? Because if you do, you're could be regarded as a communist in America. Point being terms such as "communist" & "socialism" are thrown around without people really knowing what the terms actually mean.

As someone who actually DOES know and have a deep understanding of what these terms mean. I do always get a good laugh out of seeing the loony right-wing types jumping on and raving about the "evil bogey" whenever a party appears likely to embark on a policy direction more progressive than, say, Hitler.

And this isn't even a move to the left by the ALP in any case. That's why it pisses me off to see any shift back to the ALP from those who've come to support the Greens more in recent times, even if I'm pretty confident such a voting shift is going to be just a temporary thing, until those people realise they've been hoodwinked by Labor again.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

I don't know if it is very funny or a little sad that Liberal party fan boys are falling apart like this.

I'm tending towards very funny

Yep, the lulz are plentiful in this thread mate. Aside from anything else, the ALP are more likely to shift further to the RIGHT with Gillard as leader, not the left.

There's a reason why, of the 38 who were still behind Rudd at the end, ALL of them were firmly and unmistakably of the ALP Left, and that Gillard's strongest backers were on the Right.

 

[King Elvis]

Care to elaborate on that reason?

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Because she is likely to take the party further to the right in real policy terms- for instance, it appears probable that she will move the ALP even further into the realms of shallow bastardry on the issue of asylum-seekers.

 

[mantis]

Yes. We really do.

You can't stop us. We're coming for all of you!

BETTER RED THAN DEAD.

DON'T BUY WAR BONDS.

Most definitely.

 

[medusala]

Moo - why do we have to put up with mentally impaired bigots like Kevin and Military Man on these forums? I'm all for entertaining different points of view, but these guys are downright offensive.

This is one of his better efforts. We regularly hear about Abbott's religious extremism. Only reasonable Gillards socialist history is discussed.

 

[MightyFighting]

This is one of his better efforts. We regularly hear about Abbott's religious extremism. Only reasonable Gillards socialist history is discussed.

Abbott's religious extremism is in the present. Gillard's socialist history was when she was 20.