Name a Conservative Success Story

[DaBarz]

The Rudd government restarted boat turn backs but don't let history get in the way of your opinion.

Really ?

Boat ‘turnbacks’ in Australia: a quick guide to the statistics since 2001

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www.aph.gov.au

“Suspected Illegal Entry Vessels (SIEVs) from Australian waters was introduced by the Howard Government (from 2001–2003) and reintroduced by the Abbott Government (in December 2013). It updates boat ‘turnback’ data provided in a previous publication from November 2017, to provide information on boat turnbacks through to 30 June 2018.

In the months prior to the reintroduction of the Abbott Government’s boat ‘turnback’ policy, unauthorised maritime arrivals (who arrived on board boats between 19 July 2013 and December 2013) were transferred to regional processing centres in Nauru and Papua New Guinea (PNG). “

A success story of the Conservative govt unlike this

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/24/australia-to-move-last-refugee-from-offshore-processing-on-nauru-but-its-cruelty-and-cost-is-not-over#:~:text=Within%20three%20months%2C%20Australia's%20offshore,sea'%2C”%20Gleeson%20says.

“Coalition nearly won power in 2010 on the back of the simplistic promise it would “Stop the Boats”, then did so three years later.”

“Offshore processing was just one of the reforms an expert panel encouraged the then Gillard government to enact in 2012, including greater cooperation with Indonesia and Malaysia and boosting Australia’s humanitarian intake.

While the offshore component was swiftly put into place, the rest never followed. Cooperation with south-east Asian neighbours faltered and Australia’s humanitarian intake, instead of increasing, has fallen in the decade since.”

“The Rudd government’s dismantling of the Howard government’s successful border protection policies directly resulted in more than 51,000 illegal maritime arrivals, including more than 8400 children, while it has been estimated that at least 1200 people (including hundreds of children) perished at sea”

 

[Todman]

The independence of Papua New Guinea that occured without bloodshed.

 

[DaBarz]

So I guess (in absence of a response) we can add “Stopping The Boats” as a success

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Rolf Harris

 

[Saint]

This is all the success that supporters of conservative politics want to see.

 

[DaBarz]

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This is all the success that supporters of conservative politics want to see.

Business investment lower - I wonder why?
Maybe a Labor govt is not what businesses like to see with a net zero renewables energy target and a compulsive urge to increase wages

Can’t beat them - join them and buy shares.

Franking credits galore to be had - and if you borrow the money line up for negative gearing tax offsets !

 

[QuietB]

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Business investment lower - I wonder why?
Maybe a Labor govt is not what businesses like to see with a net zero renewables energy target and a compulsive urge to increase wages

Can’t beat them - join them and buy shares.

Franking credits galore to be had - and if you borrow the money line up for negative gearing tax offsets !

You really are dim aren't you - the dip happened under the Liberals who were in power for the entire downward slide.

 

[Saint]

It was the RBA who were dropping interest rates to try to stop this slide in investment and pointing the finger at business, until Frydenberg told them to shut up and stay in their lane! Govt were working against the RBA and didn't want the RBA saying it out loud.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Monique Ryan is more successful than Frydenberg.

 

[QuietB]

It was the RBA who were dropping interest rates to try to stop this slide in investment and pointing the finger at business, until Frydenberg told them to shut up and stay in their lane! Govt were working against the RBA and didn't want the RBA saying it out loud.

And the same diversion of profits to private dividends away from investment has happened with wages.

Dividends up.
Investment down.
Wages down.

What a world.

 

[mcgrath_truther]

You really are dim aren't you - the dip happened under the Liberals who were in power for the entire downward slide.

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nah you see if the story is released when labour’s in government that means everything is labours fault no matter the historical (LNP) circumstances that caused it

the libs claim to be the good financial party, right?

 

[DaBarz]

You really are dim aren't you - the dip happened under the Liberals who were in power for the entire downward slide.

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Not me that’s dim.
Look at the two corresponding trends.

Edit

Since we’re cherry-picking data/
Interesting that the last time the gap was widening was between 1981 and 1991 - Hawke Keating years.

 

[DaBarz]

It was the RBA who were dropping interest rates to try to stop this slide in investment and pointing the finger at business, until Frydenberg told them to shut up and stay in their lane! Govt were working against the RBA and didn't want the RBA saying it out loud.

You have links for this of course ?

 

[DaBarz]

And the same diversion of profits to private dividends away from investment has happened with wages.

Dividends up.
Investment down.
Wages down.

What a world.

Sure is!

 

[Number37]

 

[DaBarz]

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At least you get something to eat.
How’s the electricity prices going ? And those aged care nurses ? Or even the public holiday lunacy ?

 

[Saint]

You have links for this of course ?

RBA governor Philip Lowe’s hugely embarrassing Frydenberg photo-op | The New Daily

Reserve Bank Governor Philip Lowe’s comments of “support” for the government were excrutiating to listen to.

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[DaBarz]

RBA governor Philip Lowe’s hugely embarrassing Frydenberg photo-op | The New Daily

Reserve Bank Governor Philip Lowe’s comments of “support” for the government were excrutiating to listen to.

thenewdaily.com.au

And Albo has acted on Lowe’s “advice” too ?
The same Lowe that didn’t think there would be a rate rise until 2024?
That Lowe?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

And Albo has acted on Lowe’s “advice” too ?
The same Lowe that didn’t think there would be a rate rise until 2024?
That Lowe?

If conservatives were so successful, why are you having such a hard time providing proof?

 

[DaBarz]

If conservatives were so successful, why are you having such a hard time providing proof?

I’ve given several examples.

You just choose to ignore them.
I’ll be listing a few more after Albanese’s failures are reversed by the next coalition govt.

 

[Saint]

And Albo has acted on Lowe’s “advice” too ?
The same Lowe that didn’t think there would be a rate rise until 2024?
That Lowe?

Yes, that Lowe, appointed by Scott Morrison, was apparently being given an economics lesson By Josh "Back in Black - not quite" Frydenberg.
The same Frydenberg who lost the Liberals the seat of Kooyong.
That Frydenberg.

It's like Sam Kerr being called in by Albo to talk about her penalty kicks.

 

[DaBarz]

Back in black ?
Little thing called COVID smashed that

 

[QuietB]

Back in black ?
Little thing called COVID smashed that

lol - try again champ

 

[DaBarz]

lol - try again champ

Talking about surpluses .
Where does that indicate the projected budget?

2019-20 Budget: pre-budget fiscal outlook

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www.aph.gov.au

“The Budget is likely to reconfirm an improvement in the Commonwealth’s fiscal position. The 2019-20 MYEFO forecast a return to surplus in 2019-20 with Commonwealth net debt forecast to have peaked (as a proportion of GDP) in 2017-18.”

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Talking about surpluses .
Where does that indicate the projected budget?

2019-20 Budget: pre-budget fiscal outlook

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www.aph.gov.au

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“The Budget is likely to reconfirm an improvement in the Commonwealth’s fiscal position. The 2019-20 MYEFO forecast a return to surplus in 2019-20 with Commonwealth net debt forecast to have peaked (as a proportion of GDP) in 2017-18.”

Projection is a common technique among conservatives. Clearly in this case, with hindsight, it was not successful.

Monique Ryan is a much more successful conservative than Frydenberg will ever be. I'm surprised you are still fanboying him.