Non-Lions discussion 2023

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No Lions in this list which helps fit players into our salary cap.

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20 Highest Paid AFL Players for 2023​

  • 1. Dustin Martin – AUD$1.25-$1.35 million
  • 2. Nat Fyfe – AUD$1.05-$1.15 million
  • 3. Jeremy McGovern – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 4. Tim Kelly – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 5. Marcus Bontempelli – AUD$1 – $1.1 million
  • 6. Clayton Oliver – AUD$950,000 – $1.05 million
  • 7. Christian Petracca – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 8. Jeremy Cameron – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 9. Tom Lynch – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 10. Darcy Moore – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 11. Patrick Cripps – AUD$900,000 – $1 million
  • 12. Stephen Coniglio – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 13. Toby Greene – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 14. Lachie Whitfield – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 15. Nick Haynes – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 16. James Sicily – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 17. Isaac Heeney – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 18. Bradley Hill – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 19. Adam Treloar – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 20. Brodie Grundy – AUD$800,000-$900,000
 
Section 5 said:
No Lions in this list which helps fit players into our salary cap.

MSN

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20 Highest Paid AFL Players for 2023​

  • 1. Dustin Martin – AUD$1.25-$1.35 million
  • 2. Nat Fyfe – AUD$1.05-$1.15 million
  • 3. Jeremy McGovern – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 4. Tim Kelly – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 5. Marcus Bontempelli – AUD$1 – $1.1 million
  • 6. Clayton Oliver – AUD$950,000 – $1.05 million
  • 7. Christian Petracca – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 8. Jeremy Cameron – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 9. Tom Lynch – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 10. Darcy Moore – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 11. Patrick Cripps – AUD$900,000 – $1 million
  • 12. Stephen Coniglio – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 13. Toby Greene – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 14. Lachie Whitfield – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 15. Nick Haynes – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 16. James Sicily – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 17. Isaac Heeney – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 18. Bradley Hill – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 19. Adam Treloar – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 20. Brodie Grundy – AUD$800,000-$900,000
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Haynes and Grundy couldn't get games for their clubs in the finals... ouch!
 
GoLions2023 said:
Haynes and Grundy couldn't get games for their clubs in the finals... ouch!
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Grundy is split between two teams though. Haynes - well, I think they're both just biding time there.
 

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Section 5 said:
No Lions in this list which helps fit players into our salary cap.

MSN

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20 Highest Paid AFL Players for 2023​

  • 1. Dustin Martin – AUD$1.25-$1.35 million
  • 2. Nat Fyfe – AUD$1.05-$1.15 million
  • 3. Jeremy McGovern – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 4. Tim Kelly – AUD$1-$1.1 million
  • 5. Marcus Bontempelli – AUD$1 – $1.1 million
  • 6. Clayton Oliver – AUD$950,000 – $1.05 million
  • 7. Christian Petracca – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 8. Jeremy Cameron – AUD$$950,000-$1,050,000
  • 9. Tom Lynch – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 10. Darcy Moore – AUD$925,000-$1.25 million
  • 11. Patrick Cripps – AUD$900,000 – $1 million
  • 12. Stephen Coniglio – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 13. Toby Greene – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 14. Lachie Whitfield – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 15. Nick Haynes – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 16. James Sicily – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 17. Isaac Heeney – AUD$850,000-$950,000
  • 18. Bradley Hill – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 19. Adam Treloar – AUD$825,000-$925,000
  • 20. Brodie Grundy – AUD$800,000-$900,000
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Freo getting decent ROI on Fyfe of late.
 
Hopefully our guys can avoid doing anything like this.

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‘Can’t win flag without him’: Call for Swan to lose captaincy, cash over ‘disaster’ Mad Monday injury

‘Can’t win flag without him’: Call for Swan to lose captaincy, cash over ‘disaster’ Mad Monday injury
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Sydney Swans midfielder Callum Mills has undergone shoulder surgery after a Mad Monday celebration gone wrong.

Channel 7’s Mitch Cleary reported on Tuesday night Mills suffered a shoulder injury while wrestling with a teammate during the side’s post-season drinks.

Cleary added Mills was in “severe doubt” to play Round 1 next year. The Daily Telegraph reported later Mills had undergone surgery and was certain to miss the start of the 2024 season.
 
Heard Gil talking about the Kangaroos assistance package and didn't know the following until then.

:think:The Kangaroos are getting 1 end of first round selection in the 2023 draft and 2 end of first round selections in the 2024 draft... however the 2024 picks will be reviewed next year..... BUT they can trade those 2024 selections this year if they want.:oops:

No way the Kangaroos don't trade them out and risk losing them if they perform reasonably in 2024.
 
Tom14 said:
Its a feature of their style of play too - they want to control and dominate time in forward half and aren't too fussed about bombing it in because it generally gets deeper and is harder for the oppo to rebound. If they turn around and try change their method they'll undermine their defence. They tend to put it wider too leading to a lot of low percentage shots.

It actually reminds me a lot of our approach in 2019/20, except we also had the players in the front half to score out of it.
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I think this was half our problem in the third quarter on Saturday too... we dominated territory so comprehensively that it was actually difficult to get decent scoring opportunities with time and space.

Feels like this is the next phase of development in the game as a whole: how "territory-based teams" (Melbourne, Port, us etc) go about maintaining that field position dominance while still being able to score freely despite the resulting congestion in their/our forward line.

It may also require a bit of help from the law makers. Hello "prior opportunity" 🙂
 
Caroline Bloody Wilson!!! Fair dinkum, where does she get off sometimes? On last night's Footy Classified, she said "Will Ashcroft wasn't good enough to win the Rising Star award." When it was pointed out that he missed weeks with his ACL injury, she dismissively muttered "Not many!" (Actually July 22, so six weeks.) But Naicos missing three allowed Lachie to steal his Brownlow! Enough Victorian bias, and I'm a Vic.
 
Tom14 said:
It would be so good if we won (duh) by putting up a big score. Would be really funny to see if any teams tried to copy our approach but without the forward half cattle.

Certainly I'd love to have 1-2 less games a year where oppo teams just flood back on us and try bore me to death.
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It's not being overly dramatic to say Saturday's match will likely have a huge bearing over the direction of the game in coming years. Other clubs often tend to copy the recent premiers. I see real parallels in the way we have played this year (certainly since Round 13) to how Geelong played last year.

Outside of a couple of games this September, the finals have all been pretty dour affairs with 60 or 70 often a winning score. Most notably featuring a Collingwood team who said they wanted to be entertaining, as per Craig McRae's comments leading into their Round 2 match with Port this year.

Regardless of the result on Saturday, I'm fed up with the whole "defence wins titles" mantra. That's only because it's easier to coach - easier to be a good defender than a good forward, and easier to teach discipline than to teach that instinctive ability to change a game in a split second.

Clubs have that many coaches these days... surely there are sufficient resources available to be devoted to devising the attacking strategies necessary to overcome the defensive quagmire the finals have largely been mired in.

We certainly have the playing group to capitalise on such an attitude shift, how that translates on Saturday remains to be seen.
 
Grasshopper17 said:
I think this was half our problem in the third quarter on Saturday too... we dominated territory so comprehensively that it was actually difficult to get decent scoring opportunities with time and space.

Feels like this is the next phase of development in the game as a whole: how "territory-based teams" (Melbourne, Port, us etc) go about maintaining that field position dominance while still being able to score freely despite the resulting congestion in their/our forward line.

It may also require a bit of help from the law makers. Hello "prior opportunity" 🙂
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While I am not a huge fan of most individual stats some of the team ones are good.

Daniel Hoyne on SEN saying that the Pies scoring is dominated by D50 transition goals, said 6 of the Pies 8 goals against the Giants in the Prelim were scored via that method. Not from deep though, turnovers/intercepts around the 30 meter to 50 meter area are the ones you want to avoid. If we have to bomb it long go deep.

He also said the Lions can not afford to hang off the Pies attacking chains like they did in the 1st quarter v the Blues, we must be brave and move forward at their forward surges.

Hoyne tipped the Lions by 3 points.
 
M Malice said:
While I am not a huge fan of most individual stats some of the team ones are good.

Daniel Hoyne on SEN saying that the Pies scoring is dominated by D50 transition goals, said 6 of the Pies 8 goals against the Giants in the Prelim were scored via that method. Not from deep though, turnovers/intercepts around the 30 meter to 50 meter area are the ones you want to avoid. If we have to bomb it long go deep.

He also said the Lions can not afford to hang off the Pies attacking chains like they did in the 1st quarter v the Blues, we must be brave and move forward at their forward surges.

Hoyne tipped the Lions by 3 points.
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Disruption of the attacking chains, especially against the Pies, has been the standout feature tactically this season. Round 3 was a brilliant example. Once we get the pace of the game and force the turnovers our halfbacks pressing so high (and kicking goals last match) inflict too much scoring pressure on the opposition.

I think this is where we have a major advantage on Saturday if we can absorb the early pressure. So kudos Fagan and co, this style of football looks great.
 

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What a game of rugby that was. Broncos have thrown that one away unfortunately. Could not see the panthers coming back from that but WOW how did they do that.
 
Paul Mac said:
What a game of rugby that was. Broncos have thrown that one away unfortunately. Could not see the panthers coming back from that but WOW how did they do that.
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I was stuck in the air circling Sydney because of weather, but it looks like this is one I'll have to go out of my way to watch the replay of.
 
About a dozen Broncos supporters hopped into my train carriage. None have spoken for five minutes. I know we were upset yesterday but this is like a wake.
 
dlanod said:
About a dozen Broncos supporters hopped into my train carriage. None have spoken for five minutes. I know we were upset yesterday but this is like a wake.
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No wonder they are not speaking.
 
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martinson said:
Share your stories.

It's therapeutic.
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My heart goes out to those that sat there through both losing GFs this weekend. The Cowboys GF win over the Broncos a few ago was also so close. No wonder people play computer games....
 
MSB ROYS said:
The Cowboys GF win over the Broncos a few ago was also so close.
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Was there for that one. I was over the moon. I'm 1-1 at NRL Grand Finals, 2-0 at A League, and 0-2 at AFL. :(
 
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