No Oppo Supporters OPPOSITION OBSERVATION XXIX

[Soberian Tiger]

Blues rising star Sam.Walsh ready for new role -

When I saw this headline I had visions of Walsh taking up acting for the part of the shearers' cook in a remake of the '75 Jack Thompson movie, Sunday Too Far Away - the character who got drunk on the vanilla essence.

But no. Apparently Sam's playing midfield...

 

[Brick Loosener]

Blues rising star Sam.Walsh ready for new role -

When I saw this headline I had visions of Walsh taking up acting for the part of the shearers' cook in a remake of the '75 Jack Thompson movie, Sunday Too Far Away - the character who got drunk on the vanilla essence.

But no. Apparently Sam's playing midfield...

All those gun mid fielders they got pushing Walsh into the midfield.

 

[Foley#41]

If anyone be looking for something to lighten their mood, check out this thread from the Pies board from early 2017 (recently rebooted):

Opinion - Could we learn from Richmond?

Hardwick has been coach at Richmond for over seven years. He has a losing record and has never won a final. Despite this the Richmond FC has stuck by him, and now, with a focus on enjoying their footy, Richmond have made a perfect start to the season. Are there lessons here for our club? Should...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Brick Loosener]

We can learn from Richmond (well what happened to them anyway)

1. Get a great draw (only played GWS of all the finals teams twice for the season....there's 4+ extra wins straight away! Guaranteed finals)
2. Few if any injuries (none to key players) 15 of them played 20+games this season Continuity breeds confidence.
3. Get two guns to have "career seasons" (Martin and Cotchin went two levels above anything they've produced before)
4. Clear an injured Gun (They cleared Deledio....who will we clear? Ben Reid
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   Ben Reid

   Age

   34

   Ht

   196cm

   Wt

   98kg

   Pos.

   Fwd

   Career

   Season

   Last 5

   D

   14.3

   4star

   K

   9.5

   4star

   HB

   4.9

   4star

   M

   6.0

   5star

   T

   1.2

   3star

   G

   0.6

   4star

   No current season stats available

   D

   14.0

   4star

   K

   8.6

   4star

   HB

   5.4

   4star

   M

   6.0

   5star

   T

   1.0

   3star

   G

   0.0

   1star

   ?) Having fit hungry youngsters playing week in week out certainly helps continuity and confidence!
5. Throw out the game plan....let em loose! (Dimma had the same rep as Bucks "Too involved, too constraining"...Dimma read the writing on the wall. Will Bucks?) In the last month we played a lot more attacking footy...is this how we're going to play in 2018?
6. Change the game day experience for the supporters. Less Kiss Cam, more "Back in Black". Give the cheer squads back to the people instead of over sanitising them and restraining their cheek. Let em loose! If the Tigers really think they have an army...unleash the beast that has always been Collingwood's greatest strength. Unleash the supporters! Set up CFC cheersquads around the G. Encourage originality and "support" Make the entire Ponsford stand OUR CHEER SQUAD....we could fill it easily. Stop thinking corporate and start thinking "barrackers" again.

A few things we can do.

 

[VB_longneck]

dimma is a legend

 

[Soberian Tiger]

Something we can definitely do:

Leave the Pies alone.

They make you fat. Just ask Dayne.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Graham Wright poached by the Pies.
Good get by the Pies I must say.

 

[Bazzar]

So Dusty didn't win the time trial... all fake news.

Kmac did.

 

[Soberian Tiger]

Lord Lucan
Missing for half a century.

Lord Lol-cat
Missing for half a granny.

 

[Brick Loosener]

So Dusty didn't win the time trial... all fake news.

Kmac did.

Kmac greater than Dusty confirmed.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

 

[Bazzar]

Kmac greater than Dusty confirmed.

Apparently Dusty came in late and started 400 meters ahead of the rest and naturally reporters just noted he came first over the line.. lol

 

[djspank]

 

[Marcel Proust]

It would have to be pretty bad because they've had those 4 traded, plus 5 retirements (although Beams salary is still counted in the TPP's) and 4 delistings.

So it's actually 13 players out (more than lolnorf I think) with 8 players recruited from the most compromised draft ever where recruiters were basically going off 2019 form, half of those picks were from the back end of the draft as well. 2020 was the lowest intake of draftees ever.

Next year they will have to pay $300k+ for Treloar and around $700k for Beams.

It's a level of list 'management' that beggars belief.

I think that there's an open members forum at the Pies on Monday. Could be interesting...........


*edit.......here's a list of 2021 picks with thanks to Lore who did a splendid job

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This year the Pies are banging on about how well they did in this years draft with 5 picks in under 40.

Next year in a much better draft, including the fact that recruiters will be better able to judge players because of more exposed form, we have 5 picks under 42. I know who's draft hand I'd have (we only had to lose Higgins and Markov for comparison) I think that's outstanding list management from our boys, particularly because we are REIGNING PREMIERS

Next year the Pies have dibs on Nick Daicos who has been touted to go between picks 1-5. let's say he get's a bid on him at 5, that bid will eat up the Pies picks 30 + 38 + 44, sending them to the back of the draft. That is not a good position to be in. They have no draft capital next year and will have to rely on trading out one or two of their other spuds or use 2022 picks to trade with. Yes, they can pick up a FA, but who in their right mind would risk going there?

Imagine giving someone 1.5 million$ to not play football for Collingwood but for your rivals.

 

[Bazzar]

Who will be the first afl player to go monkey tail?

Tigger comes to mind.

 

[LC_15]

Graham Wright poached by the Pies.
Good get by the Pies I must say.

He can swap notes with Ned guy

 

[Not Important]

Graham Wright poached by the Pies.
Good get by the Pies I must say.

although he's in a different more demanding role. so we'll see. the upside is he'll only have to put up with eddie can't-shut-uo for one year.

 

[Not Important]

Imagine giving someone 1.5 million$ to not play football for Collingwood but for your rivals.

at any other club the c.e.o would be a gonner and the chairman would resign in disgrace.

 

[4tune8]

Imagine giving someone 1.5 million$ to not play football for Collingwood but for your rivals.

It's astounding isn't it? If you factor in Beams then it's about 3 million over 6 years that they have to pay for players not on their list (I'm sure that they will paying some of Stephenson's and Phillips wages too)

If we talk about draft capital then that cost is huge too. 2 players that played for a combined 5 years in total that cost them 4 x 1st round draft picks (plus later picks) with bugger all coming back.

They gave away:

Jacob Hopper
Harry Perryman
Ely Smith
Noah Answerth
Deven Robertson (Larke medal winner)

They received:

Beams (gone)
Treloar (gone for a 2nd round pick))
Sier (spud)
and picks for Kelly who was a father/son pickup anyway

 

[SunshineBoy]

It's astounding isn't it? If you factor in Beams then it's about 3 million over 6 years that they have to pay for players not on their list (I'm sure that they will paying some of Stephenson's and Phillips wages too)

If we talk about draft capital then that cost is huge too. 2 players that played for a combined 5 years in total that cost them 4 x 1st round draft picks (plus later picks) with bugger all coming back.

They gave away:

Jacob Hopper
Harry Perryman
Ely Smith
Noah Answerth
Deven Robertson (Larke medal winner)

They received:

Beams (gone)
Treloar (gone for a 2nd round pick))
Sier (spud)
and picks for Kelly who was a father/son pickup anyway

and yet no scrutiny

 

[VB_longneck]

Graham Wright poached by the Pies.
Good get by the Pies I must say.

whos that

 

[Soberian Tiger]

HB Meyers on The Mongrel Punt, regarding his top fifty players selections:
"My hope is to have players who are doing well in all positions well represented. Pretty difficult to steer it too much away from the midfield, but wanting to make it as fair as possible."

Then puts the likes of Cam Guthrie ahead of Dylan Grimes

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Dylan Grimes

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

.

 

[Marcel Proust]

HB Meyers on The Mongrel Punt, regarding his top fifty players selections:
"My hope is to have players who are doing well in all positions well represented. Pretty difficult to steer it too much away from the midfield, but wanting to make it as fair as possible."

Then puts the likes of Cam Guthrie ahead of Dylan Grimes.

It's crazy how underrated Grimes is

 

[Hoos]

It's crazy how underrated Grimes is

It just highlights how stupid people are. Especially the football media.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

whos that

Bucks new partner.