Brownlow Patrick Cripps - 2022 Brownlow Medallist

[danster168]

The Brownlow is the main attraction mate, if Oliver had won you would be agreeing, i taste sour grapes here.

incorrect. I've been slamming the credibility of the Brownlow all season long on this forum. I even said in the Cripps vs Oliver thread months ago that Cripps may win the Brownlow as it doesn't reward consistency.

 

[Brighton_Diggins]

Incorrect. The Brownlow got surpassed by the Coaches votes years ago.

mate you're clearly so salty over this. It's very entertaining. Like the pies you leave season 2022 with zero to show for it. Actually it's probably worse for the demons as I had you guys a lock for a GF appearance minimum. Pies were a fair surprise and blues I thought 8-10 finish. Blues went out in such disappointing fashion however. yeah it hurt . Cripps was always a solid Brownlow shot this year If fit. Not many genuine footy supporters that I know don't disagree that when Cripps is up about he's one of the best players getting around ATM. He's not quite a 2017-20 Dusty in full flight (who the hell is ?) but he's in that elite company/stratosphere when the motor's running.

 

[Blue1980]

Can the AFL get any lower than this?

Honestly, the game needs a completely new governing body to take over, dredge the credibility of the game's adjudication out of the toilet.

Yes, this is probably the worst thing to happen in the history of not just sport, most likely humanity

 

[Blue1980]

regardless of any opinion on whether he should have been eligible....

no idea how he polled 1 against WCE

and equally no idea how Neale didnt poll against GC in round 19

No idea how Neale got a vote v Melbourne.

No idea why Cripps didn’t get 3 v Richmond.

I’d have given Curnow 3 v Crows at Marvel instead of Cripps

 

[Blue1980]

Equally shocking to get 1 in round 1. Also stiff in rd 22.

How on earth did Neale jag a vote in rd 23? 20 touches?

Yes in a 10 goal loss where the game was done early in the 2nd and I can’t recall him having any real impact.

May as well have given Charlie Cameron votes for kicking 5.

 

[Blue1980]

Well yeah I can because if he had any decency he wouldn’t have appealed the second time when he knew damn well he knocked the bloke out. The whole thing is a farce.

Lol, what AFL player would of gone “yeah nah don’t challenge”

 

[rye]

No idea how Neale got a vote v Melbourne.

No idea why Cripps didn’t get 3 v Richmond.

I’d have given Curnow 3 v Crows at Marvel instead of Cripps

i didnt expect neale to poll in round 23 but in complete fairness, he also got the third most coaches votes in that game too

 

[sherb]

So first?

"Only second to Jobe" would strongly suggest that he is saying Jobe is first.

 

[Underarm]

"Only second to Jobe" would strongly suggest that he is saying Jobe is first.

Watson isn't a brownlow medalist. That's like saying Chris Grant is a brownlow medallist.

 

[Blue1980]

Interview was recorded well before the Brownlow.

Media doing that thing again where they hold onto a story and release it at a time it'll sell the most clicks and outrage everyone.

Pretty trashy really.

Doesn’t Gil speaking against the ruling letting Cripps play go against those claiming this is an AFL conspiracy for him to win?

 

[T2B_]

Anyone running a takeaway joint that needs a nice free haul of salt for your supplies? Just head over to the Lions board lol.

 

[sherb]

Watson isn't a brownlow medalist. That's like saying Chris Grant is a brownlow medallist.

But he was for several years.

 

[danster168]

mate you're clearly so salty over this. It's very entertaining. Like the pies you leave season 2022 with zero to show for it. Actually it's probably worse for the demons as I had you guys a lock for a GF appearance minimum. Pies were a fair surprise and blues I thought 8-10 finish. Blues went out in such disappointing fashion however. yeah it hurt . Cripps was always a solid Brownlow shot this year If fit. Not many genuine footy supporters that I know don't disagree that when Cripps is up about he's one of the best players getting around ATM. He's not quite a 2017-20 Dusty in full flight (who the hell is ?) but he's in that elite company/stratosphere when the motor's running.

You've clearly skim read. I'm not salty at all. I get annoyed that each year people get angry at the results when clearly it's a flawed award that I stopped caring about many years ago.

Yeah cripps is a good player but winning last night hasn't changed my opinion of him just as my opinion of Ollie Wines didn't change just because he won it. When Wines retires he'll still be a guy that was slow, had average skills and peaked in his career to be about a top 20 player.

Oliver had a much better year. And like I said if Cripps was playing for Melbourne he'd just be another midfielder getting 14-15 votes.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Why did you pick top 5? And not top 2? or top 3? Like how did you come up with that number?

You're free to look at it however you like. It's a stupid argument. Just put my 2 cents in.

 

[Brighton_Diggins]

You've clearly skim read. I'm not salty at all. I get annoyed that each year people get angry at the results when clearly it's a flawed award that I stopped caring about many years ago.

Yeah cripps is a good player but winning last night hasn't changed my opinion of him just as my opinion of Ollie Wines didn't change just because he won it. When Wines retires he'll still be a guy that was slow, had average skills and peaked in his career to be about a top 20 player.

Oliver had a much better year. And like I said if Cripps was playing for Melbourne he'd just be another midfielder getting 14-15 votes.

Anchovy pizza anyone?

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Yeah the umps are pretty smart. Jake Melksham is better than Maynard. lolz. Nice one umpires.

Imagine looking at the lower end of the Brownlow votes and thinking that because one player got 1 vote and another got none, that the umpires must think one is better than the other...
Correlation =/= causation.

 

[Jackington]

So unstoppable that he came 6th in the coaches votes.

People seem to think Coaches votes are infallible, but coaches also have favourites, and are often too busy to put the right votes down.

Chris Scott even admitted he "forgot" how good Cameron was in the first final, and left him out of his votes. There will never be a perfect award, and at least the Brownlow is (mostly) impartial.

 

[danster168]

People seem to think Coaches votes are infallible, but coaches also have favourites, and are often too busy to put the right votes down.

Chris Scott even admitted he "forgot" how good Cameron was in the first final, and left him out of his votes. There will never be a perfect award, and at least the Brownlow is (mostly) impartial.

Agree. But at least the coaches aware votes to forward and defenders. That in itself means it surpasses the midfield medal in terms of credibility.

 

[danster168]

Imagine looking at the lower end of the Brownlow votes and thinking that because one player got 1 vote and another got none, that the umpires must think one is better than the other...
Correlation =/= causation.

Imagine not realising that the only reason why it's the lower end is because the medal is deeply flawed. If you're in the AA team, you should be roughly in the top 25 of the brownlow.

Yeah Karl Amon is better than Hawkins according to you. lol! Nice one mate. So now I've pointed out the lower end is flawed and the middle end lol. too easy. such a joke of an award. I'd rather win a club bnf.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Imagine not realising that the only reason why it's the lower end is because the medal is deeply flawed. If you're in the AA team, you should be roughly in the top 25 of the brownlow.

Yeah Karl Amon is better than Hawkins according to you. lol! Nice one mate. So now I've pointed out the lower end is flawed and the middle end lol. too easy. such a joke of an award. I'd rather win a club bnf.

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No, you shouldn't. This is massively flawed logic.

You have to be judged as one of the best 3 players in any given game out of the 44 (sometimes 45 or 46) players on the field. There's a very narrow chance of getting votes. You could be judged as the 4th-8th best player every single game and you won't get a single vote.

If Maynard is the only Pies player to make AA, does that make him their best player? No. So that doesn't mean that he's a greater chance of getting votes.
Do you really think he's going to steal votes off Daicos, JDG, Lipinski, Moore, Pendles, Adams, Crisp, Sidebottom, plus whoever the best 3-4 mids or other A grade players from the oppo are, simply because he's AA?

And what the hell is the comment about Amon?

 

[Sky]

Selwood?

Selwood may be a one time premiership captain (soon? hopefully?) but Cripps’ team age profile and the A grade quality they got, may have a dynasty coming.

 

[La Dispute]

Clearly it's a flawed award that I stopped caring about many years ago.

You certainly are contributing a lot for someone who doesn't have any interest in the subject matter.

 

[Blue1980]

As much as I think Cripps is one of the most dynamic players in modern footy who oozes god given talent ..unfortunately this Brownlow medal will always have a *
next to it for him.

It’s a shame but Gil is correct with his opinion.

He could always win another one

 

[Blue1980]

It’s infinitely better to make finals. Not even close.

I agree. I’ve experience 2 win seasons and can confirm this year was more fun than those.

Also years making finals more fun than this year. I’m old enough to remember 90s and even seasons 09-13 when we made 4 finals series.

 

[Blue1980]

Is it though?

Brisbane made the finals in 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022, have never made a Grand Final and this may never happen.

Dees won the flag in 2021 after missing consecutive finals series in 2019 and 2020.

It's very overrated IMO.

Yes it is better than what we have experienced.