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I doubt it's even that high a price. It's a starting QB price.

I think you can take a lot away from teams either not being interested at all (Jets) or not being willing to pay a premium despite being in Superbowl window (broncos).

I think you can take even more away from Bradford not wanting to play for GM of the year Chip Kelly.
 

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What a sook! He will have the best OLine he has ever had, a strong defence to allow him to make plays & not force them, (fingers crossed) a running game that will give home more time in the pocket, the ability to call his own plays at the line in a "good" team, & a coaching staff that lives for the QB.....
He is still the best chance for the Eagles IMO but wow.. Nice signing to have Chase there.
The play must have been QB all along & had to double down in case they could not get to 1 or 2 to get one.
Howie is a shifty little so & so! I think I like him quite a lot
 
Agent Tom Condon explains Sam Bradford's trade request, return

Before Sam Bradford returned to work on Monday, agent Tom Condon called Howie Roseman to take the temperature of the players and coaches in the NovaCare Complex.

“Everybody’s looking forward to getting him back and welcoming him with open arms,” Roseman said, according to Condon’s account in an interview on the Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday.

Bradford’s relationship with Philadelphia fans might be a different story.

“I think with regard to the fans, my experience has been both as an agent and as a former player, if you’re the nicest guy in the world, and you play horribly, the fans hate you,” Condon said. “And if you play great and you’re fantastic on the field, they love you. It’s all a matter of performance.”

When Bradford re-signed with the Eagles, Condon said it was with the understanding that the Eagles were in win-now mode and wanted Bradford to play with this supporting cast after his experience in Philadelphia last season. After trading to No. 2 to draft Carson Wentz, Bradford and Condon thought “it’s not really a competition” because Wentz would play when ready. The price tag of the trade was too steep to keep Wentz on the bench.

Based on Condon’s interview with Eisen and on the Stephen A. Smith show on SiriusXM Mad Dog Sports Radio, it seems Bradford’s trade demand was based on believing there was a better situation in Denver. Condon mentioned the Broncos in both interviews.

“They made a business decision and we made one, too,” Condon said to Eisen. “We thought we had a chance to go to a really good football team and be there for a long time, and that opportunity was there, and the attempt was made. It was just that when the Broncos contacted the Eagles and talked about a trade, they couldn’t agree on a price, and they drafted someone in the first round. At that point, our options are pretty limited. So our next best option is go back and prepare for the season, and then we’re back to where you already said – he goes in, plays great, he’s lights out, everyone loves him, and he either sits Carson for another year or he’s very valuable as a trade commodity.”

Bradford re-signed with the Eagles before the start of free agency. At that point, the Eagles had the No. 13 pick and Brock Osweiler had not yet left the Broncos. It would have been interesting to see what Bradford would have done if he waited to test free agency and see what came open in Denver. Then again, there’s a difference between getting Bradford at a $7 million salary this season (like Denver would have done in a trade), and $18 million (like the Eagles are responsible for with bonus money).


The Eagles, who want Bradford on the team this season, were not going to give him away for a below-market price – especially with $11 million in dead money. And once the Broncos drafted Paxton Lynch, they did not have the same necessity for a quarterback.

At that point, the Eagles were actually the best option. He could start in Philadelphia and play with receivers that he knows. If he stays healthy and plays well this season, Bradford would be an attractive option next season, and could even sign a third contract with a team that wants him on a deal that goes beyond 2017. The Eagles could potentially recuperate value that they surrendered in the Wentz deal.

That would seem to be the best-case scenario for both sides at this point. And that is why Bradford is back in the building. The biggest issue, then, is damage control.

“He’s a tough guy, and the players in the locker room understand what’s going on, as do the coaches,” Condon said. “That’s what he’s really worried about. It’s all settled on the field. He either plays really well or he doesn’t. And if he does great, as I expect him to, all’s forgotten. And so basically when you look at it, the Eagles made a business decision and it was good for them, Sam made a business decision that had the opportunity to be good for him, and didn’t work out. So we take our next best option.”
 
rumply said:
Agent Tom Condon explains Sam Bradford's trade request, return

Before Sam Bradford returned to work on Monday, agent Tom Condon called Howie Roseman to take the temperature of the players and coaches in the NovaCare Complex.

“Everybody’s looking forward to getting him back and welcoming him with open arms,” Roseman said, according to Condon’s account in an interview on the Rich Eisen Show on Wednesday.

Bradford’s relationship with Philadelphia fans might be a different story.

“I think with regard to the fans, my experience has been both as an agent and as a former player, if you’re the nicest guy in the world, and you play horribly, the fans hate you,” Condon said. “And if you play great and you’re fantastic on the field, they love you. It’s all a matter of performance.”

When Bradford re-signed with the Eagles, Condon said it was with the understanding that the Eagles were in win-now mode and wanted Bradford to play with this supporting cast after his experience in Philadelphia last season. After trading to No. 2 to draft Carson Wentz, Bradford and Condon thought “it’s not really a competition” because Wentz would play when ready. The price tag of the trade was too steep to keep Wentz on the bench.

Based on Condon’s interview with Eisen and on the Stephen A. Smith show on SiriusXM Mad Dog Sports Radio, it seems Bradford’s trade demand was based on believing there was a better situation in Denver. Condon mentioned the Broncos in both interviews.

“They made a business decision and we made one, too,” Condon said to Eisen. “We thought we had a chance to go to a really good football team and be there for a long time, and that opportunity was there, and the attempt was made. It was just that when the Broncos contacted the Eagles and talked about a trade, they couldn’t agree on a price, and they drafted someone in the first round. At that point, our options are pretty limited. So our next best option is go back and prepare for the season, and then we’re back to where you already said – he goes in, plays great, he’s lights out, everyone loves him, and he either sits Carson for another year or he’s very valuable as a trade commodity.”

Bradford re-signed with the Eagles before the start of free agency. At that point, the Eagles had the No. 13 pick and Brock Osweiler had not yet left the Broncos. It would have been interesting to see what Bradford would have done if he waited to test free agency and see what came open in Denver. Then again, there’s a difference between getting Bradford at a $7 million salary this season (like Denver would have done in a trade), and $18 million (like the Eagles are responsible for with bonus money).


The Eagles, who want Bradford on the team this season, were not going to give him away for a below-market price – especially with $11 million in dead money. And once the Broncos drafted Paxton Lynch, they did not have the same necessity for a quarterback.

At that point, the Eagles were actually the best option. He could start in Philadelphia and play with receivers that he knows. If he stays healthy and plays well this season, Bradford would be an attractive option next season, and could even sign a third contract with a team that wants him on a deal that goes beyond 2017. The Eagles could potentially recuperate value that they surrendered in the Wentz deal.

That would seem to be the best-case scenario for both sides at this point. And that is why Bradford is back in the building. The biggest issue, then, is damage control.

“He’s a tough guy, and the players in the locker room understand what’s going on, as do the coaches,” Condon said. “That’s what he’s really worried about. It’s all settled on the field. He either plays really well or he doesn’t. And if he does great, as I expect him to, all’s forgotten. And so basically when you look at it, the Eagles made a business decision and it was good for them, Sam made a business decision that had the opportunity to be good for him, and didn’t work out. So we take our next best option.”
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I really feel Condon should just shut up, don't think he is helping Bradford at all here.
 
Bit of a RG3/Wentz trade comparison

Robert Griffin III tale is cautionary, but not for Eagles

PHILADELPHIA -- Jason Reid's Undefeated piece about the decline ofRobert Griffin III is an excellent read in its own right. Reid's reporting is exhaustive and his analysis feels awfully close to being spot on.

But the piece is of special interest to Philadelphia Eagles fans for two reasons. First, it really does explain how the Eagles and the rest of the NFC East dodged what could have been a lethal bullet. While Griffin's decline is a source of frustration in Washington, elsewhere in the division it created a sense of relief.

If the guy who had dominated the NFC East in 2012 had been able to improve on his rookie performance each year, the Eagles, Giants and Cowboys would have been competing for wild-card berths for a decade.

Carson Wentz, of course. Four years earlier, Washington gave up three first-round picks as part of a package to move up to No. 2 to select Griffin.

But Eagles fans can actually take solace in Reid's account of Griffin's tenure in Washington. Back in 2012, Reid writes, Washington owner Daniel Snyder was the driving force behind the trade for Griffin. Head coach Mike Shanahan had no choice but to make the best of a situation he never would have created himself.

That's a huge difference in the two stories. Eagles owner Jeff Lurie was clearly involved in the team's plan to trade up for Wentz. But it is just as clear that new coach Doug Pederson has been completely on board with that plan from the beginning. So was Howie Roseman, the executive vice president of football operations who executed the plan.

Shanahan's primary concern about Griffin was that the Heisman Trophy winner had run a spread offense at Baylor University. Griffin was used to taking the snap from the shotgun and operating a read-option offense. Shanahan tried to add Griffin-friendly elements to his offense, but it seems clear the coach saw the quarterback's inexperience as a major hurdle.

Things are completely different with Wentz. For one thing, the word on Wentz -- from Pederson and Roseman to ESPN analyst and QB aficionado Jon Gruden -- is that he ran an offense at North Dakota State that was very similar to an NFL scheme.

The level of competition Wentz faced at the FCS level is a legitimate concern, but Wentz is comfortable calling plays in the huddle, reading the defense and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage. He can also move with the ball. Wentz may not have Griffin's remarkable speed, but he is not human statue like some other successful NFL QBs.

Wentz has very little chance of duplicating Griffin's rookie success, because the plan is for Wentz to remain on the sideline for at least this season. Pederson is following a very structured plan with Wentz, whereas it looked as if Shanahan was constantly improvising with Griffin in Washington.

Pederson's plan, of course, is based on Andy Reid's 1999 plan with McNabb. Like Pederson, Reid was very much on board with the team's decision to take a quarterback with the No. 2 pick in the draft. The Eagles earned that spot by virtue of their 3-13 record in 1998. They didn't have to trade anything for it.

But Reid's investment in McNabb was complete. The coach would succeed or fail based on the quarterback's development, and he did everything he could to support McNabb.

At first glance, the situations all seem pretty similar -- quarterbacks selected No. 2 overall. But Reid's story takes a much deeper look at what happened with RG III in Washington. It may be a cautionary tale for someone, but it shouldn't be for the Eagles. They are doing things as differently as possible from the way things were done in Washington.
 

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rumply said:
Robert Griffin III tale is cautionary, but not for Eagles

PHILADELPHIA -- Jason Reid's Undefeated piece about the decline of Robert Griffin III is an excellent read in its own right. Reid's reporting is exhaustive and his analysis feels awfully close to being spot on.
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Just as a point of reference, feel like pointing out two things from the perspective of the Redskins;

  1. Jason Reid hates RGIII. He was a local Redskins beat reporter before moving to ESPN radio and then The Undefeated, and at every point he's slammed RGIII. So his whole big piece about RGIII needs to be read with that in mind
  2. The Undefeated is owned by ESPN, so the whole "his analysis feels awfully close to being spot on" is just them patting themselves on their backs.
 
Philadelphia Eagles officially uncovering new defensive identity

Gone are the days of offense reigning supreme in Philly. The Philadelphia Eagles are now a defensive team.

It hasn’t been since the midpoint of the Andy Reid era that the Philadelphia Eagleshave been categorized as a defensive team.

That changes in 2016.

The Eagles have given Fletcher Cox a massive contract extension, keeping him in Philadelphia through 2022. Thanks to the addition of Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz and his 4-3 defense, Cox is returning to his natural spot at defensive tackle, giving the Eagles one of the more frightening defensive fronts in the NFL—on paper at least.

Between Cox, Vinny Curry, Brandon Graham and Connor Barwin, the Eagles have nearly $200 million invested in their defensive line. Also keep in mind that the Eagles should be looking to extend Bennie Logan in the not-too-distant future.

Pair all that with the extension of Malcolm Jenkins, the addition of Rodney McLeodand a new-look group of cornerbacks, the Eagles’ motives are clear. They are paying their defensive cornerstones handsomely and it’s not an accident.

The Eagles are locked in on creating a defense-first mentality.

MORE FROM INSIDE THE IGGLES
The Chip Kelly era was one of the more tumultuous times in recent Eagles history. Kelly’s ‘mad scientist’ approach to the Philly offense created an intriguing storyline week in and week out. It was always about the Eagles’ offense, not the defense, which ultimately ended Kelly’s reign in Philadelphia.

The addition of Jim Schwartz this offseason changes that.

Schwartz has brought in some of the talent he worked with during his time as defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills; all of whom had career years under his leadership. Former Bills cornerbacks Leodis McKelvin and Ron Brooks both project to play big roles for Schwartz’s defense this season as well as linebacker Nigel Bradham, another former Bill.

There will be no more up-tempo offense to burn out the Eagles’ defense and there will be no more up-tempo practices that lack attention to detail. The Eagles now have the scheme and the talent to be an aggressive, hard-nosed defense that hurts people.

That’s classic Eagles football and it’s making a return in 2016.



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Philadelphia Eagles sign Fletcher Cox to massive contract extension

The Philadelphia Eagles have finally locked up Fletcher Cox. The Eagles have been locking up a lot of their home-grown talents this offseason after extending tight endsZach Ertz and Brent Celek, tackle Lane Johnson and defensive end Vinny Curry to new deals. Now the Eagles have officially reached an agreement with the granddaddy of them all.

And it’s big.

The deal is reportedly worth $103 million, which is one of the largest contracts a defensive lineman has received in NFL history. Cox said he wanted to be an Eagle “for the long haul” and it looks like he’s getting that opportunity as the deal extends him through the 2022 season.

Signing Cox long-term is a phenomenal move for the Eagles. The price may be high, but so is Cox’s production. Cox is one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL and it’s showed in the last couple of years. His ability to disrupt plays has been well-documented and there’s little reason to think his play won’t skyrocket under the 4-3 scheme Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz is bringing to Philadelphia.

It can be argued that Cox is the best defensive player the Eagles have had since Brian Dawkins. His value to the team is huge and he has certainly earned this massive deal.
 
So much nonsense in that article IMO. Although inconsistent, the defense, built around the front 7 was a strength under Kelly.

I read alot that this 4-3 will allow the defenders to attack more as its their job to attack 1 gap instead of being responsible for 2 gaps. This is great and all but I believe the gap responsibilities that the front 7 lose, are picked up by the back 4. Does this mean they are more likely to bite on play action?
 
Dunno about 'nonsense'. Under Kelly, yes the defence did well but more than once the secondary was a basket case & the Offense was clearly his priority, so isnt the article simply suggesting a move in focus under the new coach?
 
I actually thought the defense was his priority, given the amount of talent he targeted (Thurmond, Jenkins, Carroll and Maxwell). He also traded Mccoy for a coverage Linebacker. I guess I read the article differently. It says "Cox is returning to his natural spot at defensive tackle". That is just crap. You could make the argument that DE in a 3-4 is his natural position given that he performed well enough at that position to command his new contract. I think it does not matter where you put him, as long as it is on the interior of the line, the man is a talented beast, and any half competent coach will get results from him.

I think petersen's playing experience and development under reid will help him be a successful coach. Reid has been a beast in KC, and really just s**t the bed during the time of the dream team. During this time he was also the GM. Is there any successful GM/Coaches in the NFL?? (besides Belichick)
 
ChockNurris said:
So much nonsense in that article IMO. Although inconsistent, the defense, built around the front 7 was a strength under Kelly.

I read alot that this 4-3 will allow the defenders to attack more as its their job to attack 1 gap instead of being responsible for 2 gaps. This is great and all but I believe the gap responsibilities that the front 7 lose, are picked up by the back 4. Does this mean they are more likely to bite on play action?
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I would say yes but if you have guys pushing the pocket or getting through to the QB then the pressure act it's self would be enough to keep a jumpy DB in the contest
 
ChockNurris said:
So much nonsense in that article IMO. Although inconsistent, the defense, built around the front 7 was a strength under Kelly.

I read alot that this 4-3 will allow the defenders to attack more as its their job to attack 1 gap instead of being responsible for 2 gaps. This is great and all but I believe the gap responsibilities that the front 7 lose, are picked up by the back 4. Does this mean they are more likely to bite on play action?
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It was a strength, until it fell apart each season due to the overdosing of plays. Of course we had some of the worst pass defense of all time in addition.

Trying to hype our defensive performances under Kelly is right up there with hyping his general manager skills.
 
Southerntakeover said:
It was a strength, until it fell apart each season due to the overdosing of plays. Of course we had some of the worst pass defense of all time in addition.

Trying to hype our defensive performances under Kelly is right up there with hyping his general manager skills.
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I guess you probably forget how bad our defense was in 2013. You probably don't forget how good Foles was though.
 
ChockNurris said:
I guess you probably forget how bad our defense was in 2013. You probably don't forget how good Foles was though.
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Mate, if you hadn't already jumped the shark once I'd accuse you of jumping it now. There is no reasonable way to make the argument that defence was a strength of our team under Kelly. Bizarre ramblings about Foles don't get you out of that hole.
 
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