Yep, if Mayes is over his personal issues and can find the form that sees him playing to his potential - then he is in our best-22 for sure!
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I’ve been consistent in how I want us to play defensively for a very long time. I’ve been speaking about playing a gegenpress combined with optional zonal marking for years, because I’ve been of the opinion that is where we have been headed since the beginning of 2016. April 2016, in fact. So that’s almost 3 years ago. Not sure where you were at the time.
I make no guarantees it will work, I just want to see it attempted. But saying it won’t work based on one example on a 40 degree day in the first hitout of the season - a trial game no less - is ridiculous.
If it doesn’t work, I’m not going to blame the players. I’ll put my hand up and say I know nothing about tactics and bow to the superior knowledge of whoever says it won’t work.
But I believe in my club and the players representing it to make it work.
P.S. If Lynch was playing soccer he would have looked to his left and flicked the ball straight to Crouch without having to trap the ball. Crouch would have been onto it in a second. Maybe if we were playing park soccer it would be a different story, but any decent player in the Premier League would have played a through ball to Crouch in that situation much faster than what Lynch executed his handball.
And that’s the only reason why it can work in football - the fact that it takes time to gather the ball from the ground and it takes time to transition from gathering the ball to executing a disposal.
Once the opposition has control, there’s no point trying to press because that’s when the speed of handball will cut you up. But that’s not what a gegenpress is about anyway - it’s when the ball is that transition phase when no one has control of it.
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Mayes had personal issues?? I must admit, Mayes is such an unknown to me that I haven't been all that much concerned about him. I guess I felt he was expensive at the trade table but that really was more about moving from 6 to 5 to land a hot prospect. So really, anything productive that he does on field is a win I reckon.
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Something like that. I think I heard he was keen to come home for having personal issues so hopefully if they are resolved we will see he best of him ( a bit like Polly when he came back)
On a similar subject, hopefully Rocky is ok since breaking up with his partner, as they have ta child.
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From an inteview with Mayes after his trade to Port.
How strong was that desire to return home? You mentioned that you let them know relatively early on, how early was that?
I started to get quite frustrated midway through the year. I was playing in the reserves and the coaches obviously didn’t think I was playing well enough to go back up to the senior side but I felt like I was going OK. I returned to the side for a couple of games, including my 100th game, and was dropped for a second time after playing what I thought was a reasonable game. After that I was travelling emergency, we had byes and then I was an emergency again. There was a period where I hadn’t played football for three weeks and I wasn’t injured, I just wasn’t playing. It just never eventuated that I would get back into the senior side. I had a few personal off-field things going on as well from the beginning of the year that was a bit of a lure as well. These things probably affected my footy a bit more than I first anticipated, not that it is an excuse or anything, but when your mental state isn’t 100 per cent it is a bit hard to physically perform which has become a lot more common. Mental health has been a big discussion topic these days, which is good. As the season went on I started to have a bit more of a pullback to home.
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/qa-sam-mayes/
How strong was that desire to return home? You mentioned that you let them know relatively early on, how early was that?
I started to get quite frustrated midway through the year. I was playing in the reserves and the coaches obviously didn’t think I was playing well enough to go back up to the senior side but I felt like I was going OK. I returned to the side for a couple of games, including my 100th game, and was dropped for a second time after playing what I thought was a reasonable game. After that I was travelling emergency, we had byes and then I was an emergency again. There was a period where I hadn’t played football for three weeks and I wasn’t injured, I just wasn’t playing. It just never eventuated that I would get back into the senior side. I had a few personal off-field things going on as well from the beginning of the year that was a bit of a lure as well. These things probably affected my footy a bit more than I first anticipated, not that it is an excuse or anything, but when your mental state isn’t 100 per cent it is a bit hard to physically perform which has become a lot more common. Mental health has been a big discussion topic these days, which is good. As the season went on I started to have a bit more of a pullback to home.
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/qa-sam-mayes/
Yeah I'm pretty excited about Mayes. He is going to be a solid best 22 wingman. Something we desperately need.
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This Q&A might help get you up to speed ....
http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/qa-sam-mayes/
"I had a few personal off-field things going on as well from the beginning of the year that was a bit of a lure as well. These things probably affected my footy a bit more than I first anticipated, not that it is an excuse or anything, but when your mental state isn’t 100 per cent it is a bit hard to physically perform which has become a lot more common. Mental health has been a big discussion topic these days, which is good. As the season went on I started to have a bit more of a pullback to home."
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We've been defending this way for a while. I have 2 years of evidence to back up my thoughts on this.
Sounds like we might need to agree to disagree.
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In the forward 50, sure. I’m talking about over the entire field. And we haven’t put in the effort required for two years. The closest I’ve seen it was in 2016 against the Dogs at home. That was when I was sure it would work.
That’s why bringing in guys like Butters and Rozee who have that closing speed is so important. Rozee had the highest amount of pressure acts in this game.
I’ve been on this train for years. It’s time to pay the piper.
My initial impressions of Mayes leads me to believe he will become a nothing type of footballer, he on the list but does very little. In the same mold as j Watts.
I attributed our 4th qtr come backs to the injection of Robbie gray into the centre. At the time we were playing him forward then unleashing a fresh Robbie late. In either case I never bought the running over the top because we were fitter line. We were running over the top because we were dominating stoppages and contested ball in the 4th qtr which allowed our players to run forward like they did.
Even if he is depth he is handy depth to have.
As a hbf I find him average but we definitely need a wingman and he has some skills in that area. I also love him forward as he shone there as a junior. He is the same age as wines so still young, still time to improve and he is an upgrade on some players that have graced our 22 repeatedly in the past few years. Wage and trade wise he was relatively cheap.
I went back and looked at the stats again and saw drew led our team with 7 clearances.
That’s pretty good against a crows near on starting midfield in Sloane and crouch x2. All strong clearance winners who played pretty much the full match.
That’s pretty good against a crows near on starting midfield in Sloane and crouch x2. All strong clearance winners who played pretty much the full match.
Fair point but still not sure what critical role he will play
I've never claimed to have nor do I desire to have indefinite patience.Consider it a test of infinite patience then
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Well he's not going to have played much in year 3 being 2019 nobody has .
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Watts is quite a bit better imo..but should be a lot better.
Mayes is looking a little ordinary for mine. Time for him to seriously get it together (that also goes for Watts, but I think Watts is there now, and will be really good for us this year).
