Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 4

[OneGreatClub]

Was just talking to a Crows supporter and apparently Andrew Jarman has got a scoop from a very reliable source that The Big Texan™ has taken a pay cut so that the Crows can pay Dustin Martin $1M a season.

If Tahlah was still under contract until the end of 2019 why did he need to sign a new contract on less money to allow the Crows to throw the kitchen sink at any player. Surely he could just agree in principle to taking a pay cut on the proviso that the other player(s) signed? He wouldn't have to sign off on a new contract until the other contracts were also signed.

All sounds like typical AFC spin.

We can only hope it comes back to bite them on the big fat bum.
I did hear somewhere that with the CBA our salary cap is in fact healthier than the Crows', but who knows really. You hear something one day, and the next you hear the opposite.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Was just talking to a Crows supporter and apparently Andrew Jarman has got a scoop from a very reliable source that The Big Texan™ has taken a pay cut so that the Crows can pay Dustin Martin $1M a season.

If Tahlah was still under contract until the end of 2019 why did he need to sign a new contract on less money to allow the Crows to throw the kitchen sink at any player. Surely he could just agree in principle to taking a pay cut on the proviso that the other player(s) signed? He wouldn't have to sign off on a new contract until the other contracts were also signed.

All sounds like typical AFC spin.

I wonder if Jarman's very reliable source was the same one who said Clarko would be their new coach a couple of years back?

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

THE AFL has changed its stance on the shot clock and will now reinstate the 30-second countdown in the final two minutes of each quarter, but there’s a twist in the rule.

On Monday, the league said it was committed to the rule but was open to potential change, which has now come after discussing the rule with senior coaches at Tuesday night’s catch-up at the home of AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan.

The general consensus among coaches was that if it makes things easier for both players and umpires when a shot is being taken in the last two minutes of a quarter, that is the preferred option.

If an incident of time-wasting is determined to be in play, it will be dealt with accordingly at the time.

It is believed that umpires will have the power to call “play-on” if they think a player is deliberately running down the clock.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/7f1876b8e349294e9e4a8fb10ae9d8ef

 

[edgie]

Funny, but I don't feel that at all as I have a fair few muslim friends. Perhaps you are right about some gutless internet trolls though. To me this is just about the 'good bloke' thing.

The two are linked. The good bloke defence and character references were only allowed to happen because of his community work as a minority.

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[Stryke]

THE AFL has changed its stance on the shot clock and will now reinstate the 30-second countdown in the final two minutes of each quarter, but there’s a twist in the rule.

On Monday, the league said it was committed to the rule but was open to potential change, which has now come after discussing the rule with senior coaches at Tuesday night’s catch-up at the home of AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan.

The general consensus among coaches was that if it makes things easier for both players and umpires when a shot is being taken in the last two minutes of a quarter, that is the preferred option.

If an incident of time-wasting is determined to be in play, it will be dealt with accordingly at the time.

It is believed that umpires will have the power to call “play-on” if they think a player is deliberately running down the clock.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/7f1876b8e349294e9e4a8fb10ae9d8ef

More ambiguity. What constitutes wasting time?

Just get the umpires to start the shot clock if a mark or free is within the 50m arc.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

They're just putting public pressure on Lever and McGovern while building them up to be villains if they leave. Normal media for them.

They will both be soon described in the crowtiser as future captains of the club to help bump up their value. Then you know they're gone.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Was just talking to a Crows supporter and apparently Andrew Jarman has got a scoop from a very reliable source that The Big Texan™ has taken a pay cut so that the Crows can pay Dustin Martin $1M a season.

If Tahlah was still under contract until the end of 2019 why did he need to sign a new contract on less money to allow the Crows to throw the kitchen sink at any player. Surely he could just agree in principle to taking a pay cut on the proviso that the other player(s) signed? He wouldn't have to sign off on a new contract until the other contracts were also signed.

All sounds like typical AFC spin.

Andrew Jarman consulting his reliable source

 

[Jakksynn]

Jerker Jenkins was their Hartlett x 10

At least Jenkins had an above average season, Hartlett got his by giving us the same inconsistent bs he has all career. They'd be on about the same pay too.

 

[LFC2010]

THE AFL has changed its stance on the shot clock and will now reinstate the 30-second countdown in the final two minutes of each quarter, but there’s a twist in the rule.

On Monday, the league said it was committed to the rule but was open to potential change, which has now come after discussing the rule with senior coaches at Tuesday night’s catch-up at the home of AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan.

The general consensus among coaches was that if it makes things easier for both players and umpires when a shot is being taken in the last two minutes of a quarter, that is the preferred option.

If an incident of time-wasting is determined to be in play, it will be dealt with accordingly at the time.

It is believed that umpires will have the power to call “play-on” if they think a player is deliberately running down the clock.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/7f1876b8e349294e9e4a8fb10ae9d8ef

Lol

 

[bomberclifford]

It is believed that umpires will have the power to call “play-on” if they think a player is deliberately running down the clock.

If they've got 30seconds, they've got 30secs. Surely they're allowed to take the full amount of time. Imagine a player at 25 secs being called to play on because the umpire thinks he's wasting time.

Just another 'grey' area for them to exploit.

AFLol

 

[Buget]

That's what I reckon too. It serves them well to put pressure on the others and to elevate Tex's goodness from good bloke to God mode. He's likely accepted 20k less and some added on to the end of his contact, if at all. The only reason it is being promoted or leaked in the media is for the 2 reasons I stated.

The real question is, who has all the money at the Crows then? Sloane and Betts obviously, and I'm guessing that Jenkins and Lynch would be on a bit.

Considering the 'Dangerfield Money' from a couple of years ago would have gone somewhere and the new CBA, surely the Captain wouldn't need to take a pay cut to keep others at the club this early. And with that in mind, how would they fit a Gibbs or a Rocky under the cap?

 

[Waspy79]

If they've got 30seconds, they've got 30secs. Surely they're allowed to take the full amount of time. Imagine a player at 25 secs being called to play on because the umpire thinks he's wasting time.

Just another 'grey' area for them to exploit.

AFLol

Lol

Facrical isn't it. Not an ounce of logic in that decision.

 

[Jonts]

So we've actually added another grey area where its up to umpire discretion
* me

 

[Rexie J]

Umps regularly say after a mark or free, "Move it on", followed by "Play on". Anyone have a clue if "Move it on" has any rule to back it up.

If there isn't any rule, it's either "Play on" or shut up.

 

[mic59]

There are some total morons on social media for sure.

If I was Bachar Houli I'd be telling Waleed Aly to shut up. Aly's so-called support is not doing Houli any favours at the moment.

 

[Schulzenfest]

THE AFL has changed its stance on the shot clock and will now reinstate the 30-second countdown in the final two minutes of each quarter, but there’s a twist in the rule.

On Monday, the league said it was committed to the rule but was open to potential change, which has now come after discussing the rule with senior coaches at Tuesday night’s catch-up at the home of AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan.

The general consensus among coaches was that if it makes things easier for both players and umpires when a shot is being taken in the last two minutes of a quarter, that is the preferred option.

If an incident of time-wasting is determined to be in play, it will be dealt with accordingly at the time.

It is believed that umpires will have the power to call “play-on” if they think a player is deliberately running down the clock.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/7f1876b8e349294e9e4a8fb10ae9d8ef

Oh for *s sake. Terrible, terrible rule. Yet another incidence of requiring umpires to read players' minds. Yet another opportunity for umpires to unfairly influence games according to their own biases. This is the exact opposite of what this sport needs.

Somehow I feel like if this rule was in place last year, it would have been far more likely to be called against the Swans than the Dogs in last year's Grand Final.

 

[Arthur Dunger]

God I miss the good ol' days of Thursday night footy. (like last week)

 

[OneGreatClub]

They will both be soon described in the crowtiser as future captains of the club to help bump up their value. Then you know they're gone.

When Lever was interviewed yesterday or today he said it will be a "life decision" wonder what that means? Money? Family?

 

[powermacs]

At least Jenkins had an above average season, Hartlett got his by giving us the same inconsistent bs he has all career. They'd be on about the same pay too.

No, they are no where near on the same money. That's why I laugh at stories of their "stars" taking cuts. Absolute horse s**t.

 

[edgie]

Umps regularly say after a mark or free, "Move it on", followed by "Play on". Anyone have a clue if "Move it on" has any rule to back it up.

If there isn't any rule, it's either "Play on" or shut up.

Move it on is just a courtesy call, basically letting the player know they have a second before play on is called.

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[Rexie J]

Move it on is just a courtesy call, basically letting the player know they have a second before play on is called.

Sent from mTalk

Thanks, that's what I suspected was the case. Strange a courtesy call can be made then but not when the shot clock comes into play.

 

[LFC2010]

In a season of close games you can see what is going to happen in the GF if the game is close can't you.

This is going to be ending in tears for the AFL I feel.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

If they've got 30seconds, they've got 30secs. Surely they're allowed to take the full amount of time. Imagine Charlie Dixon at 25 secs being called to play on because the umpire has been told by Geelong players he's wasting time.

Just another 'grey' area for them to exploit.

AFLol

FTFY

 

[RonSon]

Surely he could just agree in principle to taking a pay cut on the proviso that the other player(s) signed? He wouldn't have to sign off on a new contract until the other contracts were also signed.

"Delete this email."

 

[FPPF]

Not sure if being sarcastic.

He put the tribunal in an awkward position. The Prime Minister had come out as a character witness and said that Houli is the greatest living Australian Muslim. Walled Aly had given a character witness saying what a great Muslim Houli is. If the tribunal didn't give Houli a lighter sentence they are saying that either Houli is not a good Muslim, contradicting the PM and a big slight on Houli, or that Islam is not the religion of peace.

A players religion shouldn't be a factor.

This is a sad state of affairs we have now, when scum like Waleed and Turnbull are able to politicise the tribunal process on behalf of a player with a minority religion.

If he's such a good bloke he wouldn't have knocked another bloke out cold.

I'm sure we all know or have known genuine good blokes who have never knocked anyone out cold.