Public vs Private Schools

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Farang83150

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Funny how rowing hasn't been mentioned. I didn't even know rowing existed for school kids and then i went to a private school. In certain schools its bigger than cricket in the summer.
Loved rowing in the eights, dead flat Swan river early morning, the only thing that sucked was eating breakfast with the boarder scum after training..;)
 

avishka5

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Loved rowing in the eights, dead flat Swan river early morning, the only thing that sucked was eating breakfast with the boarder scum after training..;)
I remembered few kids talking me into rowing when i first joined the school But there was no way i was gonna be up before 7 am on a school night. yeah i too hate the boarders aha.
 

gavaniacono

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Good private schools are pre screeners of cultural capital. With the extra resources they pay for better edu resources. Endless cycle. Fortunately for the bedraggled there is either religion like the predominant Jewish sect in Oz, or dependence on substances, or daydreaming on the surface of life, or escapism into personal satiation, or in the rarest instance, the train driver becomes font head of wisdom and crushes, however temporarily, the cultural capitalists. It is this outlier that makes it all worthwhile.
 

nylexbandit

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Private schools buy sports stars all the time. My daughter was a very promising swimmer and several schools were falling over themselves to get hold of her. I worked as a teacher in a state school in a working class area for many years, we had a teacher who played Volleyball for Australia, she created a team that were state champions under her expert coaching. The following year Haileybury offered the entire Volleyball team scholarships and took the lot of them. Its no surprise that any promising young player gets picked up by private schools.
Team was from monbulk yeah? Was a weird period where a number of private schools poached volleyball players.
 

Damon_3388

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As with all private schools they play for the school first and club or SANFL second, they need to meet their school commitments before any club
Yeah, but I doubt anyone in SA really considers school competition more important though. Certainly wasn't in my day anyway, 10-15 years ago.
 

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ItsAllAboutMe

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Soprts Ovals? Alot of newer public schools such as Albert Park College and Mt Alexander college dont have any
Has nothing to do with that or the facilities the elite schools have, but more to do with AFL Coaches wanting vanilla footballers who will fit into the 'culture' of the AFL clubs. Anyone who has been to a public school and seen gifted footballers especially in low socio or country areas knows most of them get elevated to celebrity status within the school and devlop egos which clubs no longer want.. In the private school system the kids are kept in check and follow order.
 

La Dispute

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Has nothing to do with that or the facilities the elite schools have, but more to do with AFL Coaches wanting vanilla footballers who will fit into the 'culture' of the AFL clubs. Anyone who has been to a public school and seen gifted footballers especially in low socio or country areas knows most of them get elevated to celebrity status within the school and devlop egos which clubs no longer want.. In the private school system the kids are kept in check and follow order.
Interesting point.

I suppose if you're playing with a bunch of guys who've also been given scholarships, there is less standing out. There isn't a false perception about your talents because you've got 10-15 blokes on the team in the same boat.
 

SA_Hawker

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When you get invited to the TAC program you are then hit up with fees. The more your willing to pay the better coaching and development you receive. Disgusting to think at this level that sort of thing can happen.
Did not know that, I was under the impression it was just like a local club
Different system over here in SA
 

Adam H

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Did not know that, I was under the impression it was just like a local club
Different system over here in SA
Yeah it's ridiculous. They have a pay scale more you pay the more one on one coaching sessions, weight sessions physio and so on.
 

Power Raid

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It's hard for public schools to compete when the staff, unions and employers are resorting to this mentality


At least three schools are affected so far — Trinity Gardens, Paringa Park Primary and Magill — with parents receiving letters this week saying the Christmas plays have been moved from the evening to 10am so teachers do not have to attend after school.



a 9 to 5 mentality doesn't work in today's day and age.

Who loses? the kids
Why do schools exist? the kids

yet it's all about saving money vs I'm not working after hours



#wonderwhypublicschoolsarepathetic
 

Papa G

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It's hard for public schools to compete when the staff, unions and employers are resorting to this mentality


At least three schools are affected so far — Trinity Gardens, Paringa Park Primary and Magill — with parents receiving letters this week saying the Christmas plays have been moved from the evening to 10am so teachers do not have to attend after school.



a 9 to 5 mentality doesn't work in today's day and age.

Who loses? the kids
Why do schools exist? the kids

yet it's all about saving money vs I'm not working after hours



#wonderwhypublicschoolsarepathetic
Interestingly, the 3 schools mentioned are in reasonably affluent areas. Trinity Gardens has a turf cricket pitch which is rare in public primary schools.
 

South of the Yarra

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It's hard for public schools to compete when the staff, unions and employers are resorting to this mentality


At least three schools are affected so far — Trinity Gardens, Paringa Park Primary and Magill — with parents receiving letters this week saying the Christmas plays have been moved from the evening to 10am so teachers do not have to attend after school.



a 9 to 5 mentality doesn't work in today's day and age.

Who loses? the kids
Why do schools exist? the kids

yet it's all about saving money vs I'm not working after hours



#wonderwhypublicschoolsarepathetic
Pay the teachers more and you won’t have to worry.
 

Power Raid

TheBrownDog
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Pay the teachers more and you won’t have to worry.
yep.....I think I highlighted that

There needs to be a scrap of award pay and rather reward outcomes

it might cost more but it provides motivation to get the best out of teachers for the benefit of students; and
provides motivation for the dead wood and the under-performing to move on

let's not forget we aren't talking about low paid workers. given that's the case, we should set up an environment based on success rather protectionism.
 

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