ehh who cares, its part of the game.
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Review QF: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood
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ehh who cares, its part of the game.
lacrow
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Who cares? The point is that people have a right to boo at a game. If you're so sheltered that you can't handle booing then:
a.) Don't go to the games (if you're a fan)
b.) Don't be a professional athlete
I get that your underlying question is to try to dredge up the argument about what Rankine did, but it really doesn't matter. People have different opinions on the issue and people in the stands have different reasons for booing.
Either way, the point is that they have a right to boo and if you're a professional athlete you should be able to take it, and if you're a fan you should also be able to take it. It's not as if it was physical violence, like in EPL, or if he was constantly receiving death threats and being harrassed off the field, etc. Those things are obviously crossing a line, but simply being booed during an away game? Being worried about that is just amateur-hour stuff.
Banter and general insults should absolutely be part of the game (think M Clarke’s ‘get ready for a broken ****in arm’), but personal insults and slurs that lessen historically marginalised groups shouldn’t be
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People have a right to boo. Doesn’t mean that the reason they’re booing is right. I’ll leave it at that
Thats not what I said. I said booing is part of the game. People have their reasons and we shouldnt pretend Quaynor was entirely innocent. If I walk up to a bikie dude at a bar and call him every name under the sun, am I a victim if he retaliates by calling me a word of a marginalised group? What about if he decks me? One option is blatantly against the law even when provoked with words. What isnt is insulting marginalised groups. Why is one against the law and the other isnt? We need to get some perspective here.
We've got a good one, but he went and got himself suspended.
lacrow
Team Captain
Anyway, to get back on track, I'll just say I REALLY hope we win at least one Final.
I never had expectations of us winning the GF even after we ended up top of the table, Brisbane, Geelong, etc are very strong teams and we are still young with a midfield that isn't the finished product. However going out in straight sets can't be an option. That just cannot happen.
I never had expectations of us winning the GF even after we ended up top of the table, Brisbane, Geelong, etc are very strong teams and we are still young with a midfield that isn't the finished product. However going out in straight sets can't be an option. That just cannot happen.
And who are you to dictate what is right or wrong? Its their right reason. Not yours to be judge jury and executioner.
its amazing isnt it. Wait till they try and claim the race card on behalf of quaynor.
The pathetic crap around Walkers son being obsessed with Daicos can end now as well. If we somehow make it to a GF and end up playing them again, I don't want a bar of that shit.
No. Hence why you shouldn’t be booed if you went out to play footy next week
I’m sure if a player purposely decked another player in a game, he’d get weeks in this day and age (willing for this to get pulled up if I end up wrong lol)
No matter the seeming hypocrisy, eradicating these words from the AFL, and general group speak should be seen as important - and the AFL thinks so too, given their ‘no tolerance’ policy
I hate that. I'm also on the west coast, only slept a couple of hours before 2.40 and a couple of hours after 5.30.
The sleep deprivation is brutal after a loss.
Fair enough. I’m just very weirded out by the situation
Actually if I instigated everything, then I deserve what ever I get. Sure as shit im not going to cry about being booed.
WaynesWorld19
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I agree, hard to find any positives from the game .....I do think though, Pedlar justified his inclusion over Dowling, and showed he is a Finals type player with a Finals temperament
Finals are different, and it shows up players who can't handle the spotlight
The last month has been poor by both Berry and Peatling .....tonight their performances as mids were unacceptable !
Berry starts in sparkling form, but hasn't a 4 qtr game in him (12 disposals as a mid, ONLY 1 tackle!)
Peatling, and I stand to be corrected, has had his best games against teams outside of the 8 ( 9 disposals as a Mid, and ONLY 2 tackles !)
Both these players are mean't to have tackling / pressure as their #1 wood .....but it's been a long while since they've showed anything
The fact Laird had to be shoe-horned back into the midfield as a starting Mid .....showed we were aware of the midfield issues
In every game where our midfield has stalled, or the game was on the line ....Rankine was that midfield spark ....our Daicos, such is his importance .....devastating loss!
First rule of finals footy is, Forwards have to be in front, due to high number of hack kicks ......our fwds allowed COLL defenders to take front spot
lacrow
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It's not about what YOU think is right or wrong. They have the right to boo. Booing is a natural part of professional sports, and your judgement of why they are booing is just that: your opinion.
For example, probably a lot of fans were pissed off that Quaynor/Collingwood created a huge incident over something that arguably would have been victimless (after all, no "marginalized groups" even heard this interaction). Now you may not agree with that sentiment, but there IS an argument to be made that no one would have even known about this - and therefore no one harmed. I'm not taking a position either way. I'm just saying both arguments have some validity and therefore the people that take that view have a right to boo.
In addition, as many have pointed out, they could have been booing because of the way that Quaynor treated Rankine in prior games. We don't really know and it's just makes the AFL look small and amateur to get worked up and judgy about that, considering it's a professional sport and as one of the previous posters pointed out:
"Of all the issues we saw last night people are worried about booing an opposition player."
Who said you would? I’ve been very vocal about Houston being a campaigner through over a year
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Im glad someone posted this, but I disagree with the summary a bit.
Last night we had 16 players play their first final. Of said 16 I reckon maybe Pedlar, Worrell and Curtin stamped themselves immediately as "finals" types. Max will be, but hes underdone and Filthy will be too although he had a bit of a dirty night at times. There are some experienced players in that 16, but the finals lights burn brighter for longer, until you experience it, you dont know what its about. Some might not get another chance, but most will and they'll be better for it. We might even have 1 or 2 more finals debutants next week. Thats a starting 18s worth of players exposed to this level. Thats a very good thing
When you pair that with playing against the most battle hardened, well coached side in the game that thrives off the siege mentality, last night was always a chance to play out like it did. IMO as well as the composure, they knew how wound up we'd be and played on it.
Then you've got the 7 who HAVE played. Of those, only Walker, ANB, Dawson and Laird could hold their heads up to any degree. They weren't great, but they busted their proverbials all night. We will miss the big fella when hes gone.
The other 3 may as well not have been there, slightly harsh on Smith as he came in when we were toasted, but he needed to do better.
Injuries and suspensions are no excuse as everyone is missing someone, but losing both of your front half X factors wasn't ideal.
It took Brisbane a couple of goes before they started to get the finals ball rolling so im confident we can, but it might have to wait another year.
why? you are letting a feigned outrage get in your head. Just let fans be fans.
WaynesWorld19
Post-Human
People pay their money ...they're entitled to barrack how they wish !
It's tripe that any body would have the audacity to say who you can and can't boo .....that's symptomatic of a nanny state
By many reports, it wasn’t Quaynor that reported it (and we’re not even sure if it was him that was the recipient), and in fact he (or whoever the recipient was) didn’t really care. Why was he the one that had to be significantly booed?
Prior games? Was Quaynor booed to this extent against us ever before?
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Booing Quaynor certainly put him off his game.
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