Opinion Ranking Hawthorn Players

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1. Tom Mitchell - 26 - inside mid - (Injured for the season) Brownlow Medalist, AA
2. Jaeger O'Meara - 25 - inside/outside mid - one of our better clearance players, goal kicking mid
3. James Sicily - 24 - utility(intercept defender) - intercept/rebound defender, decent one on one defending also, meters gained and counter-attacking player
4. Jack Gunston - 27 - half forward - flexible, AA, goal kicker, can play multiple positions
5. Ben McEvoy - 30 - ruck - competes well in the ruck and can float forward to clunk a mark and kick a goal, very good contested mark
6. Luke Breust - 28 - general forward - good finisher, AA, can kick a goal from anywhere inside the forw 50 area
7. Ben Stratton - 30 - general defender - good one on one, intercept mark, spoiling, captain
8. James Worpel - 20 - inside mid - good clearance numbers, good poss numbers, impact
9. Ricky Henderson - 31 - flanker/winger - runs good lines, goal kicking accuracy, work rate
10. Chad Wingard - 26 - general forw - goal kicker, x-factor, good mark, always looking to make a play
11. Tom Scully - 28 - winger/outside mid - excellent endurance, clever disposal, work rate
12. Blake Hardwick - 22 - general defender - wins one on ones, tough, very good disposal
13. James Frawley - 30 - FB - good shut down defender, can be sloppy at times, but overall is very reliable
14. Liam Shiels - 28 - defensive mid - good tackler, mature bodied mid, uses ball pretty well
15. Jonathon Ceglar - 28 - ruck - good mark, good in the ruck, ok goal kicker
16. Isaac Smith - 30 - winger - good endurance, goal kicker, run and carry
17. Dave Mirra - 28 - general defender - gets to a lot of aerial contests, intercept mark, spoil
18. Jack Scrimshaw - 21 - general defender - intercept mark, good disposal except kick-ins, run and carry
19. Jarman Impey - 24 - flanker/outside mid - run and carry, speed, impacts a contest
20. Jarryd Roughead - 32 - FF - big bodied forw, can kick a goal, decent when ball hits the ground
21. James Cousins - 21 - inside mid - stepping up this season, helping to carry the mid
22. Mitch Lewis - 20 - CHF/FF - marking tall forw, leading forw, goal kicking forw, can be used up the ground or near goal, will get his shot eventually
23. Conor Nash - 21 - general forw - quick tall forw, relies on over the top or close range goals, otherwise sets up team mates, decent defensive side
24. Shaun Burgoyne - 36 - flanker - smooth mover and user of the ball, injuries and speed letting him down
25. Paul Puopolo - 31 - sml def forw - quick in bursts, x-factor, goal a game, defensive side has fallen off a bit and his impact is off also
26. Harry Morrison - 20 - flanker-winger - clever, can run and carry, would love him to up his poss tally/impact
27. Teia Miles - 22 - hbf - run and carry, quick, good disposal, clever, energetic
28. Daniel Howe - 23 - defensive mid - tackler, tough, use the ball pretty well, can kick a goal
29. Kaiden Brand - 25 - FB - back up tall defender, good on tall opponents, intercept mark, spoil
30. Grant Birchall - 31 - hbf - unsure if he will get over 2 1/2 yr injuries
31. Jackson Ross - 20 - general forw - in really good form, still needs to build muscle, but could be an asset in 2020 AFL season if he is close to 85kg's
32. Dylan Moore - 20 - sml forw - had a great VFL Finals series with great marking and long accurate goal kicking, hasnt shown enough of that in 2019
33. Jacob Koschitzke - 18 - FB/CHB - has been injured for most of 2019, but from what little i have seen of him at VFL he looks good
34. C. Jiath - 20 - hbf - has been really good for BHH since he changed to the backline late in 2018, always gets to a contest, good intercept/rebound def
35. Harry Jones - 20 - mid/flanker - has stepped into the mid this season and with his competitiveness is making it work, still needs a bit more muscle
36. Marc Pittonet - 23 - ruck - back up ruckman, good in the ruck, average marking ability
37. Ryan Schoenmakers - 28 - CHF - a goal a game, decent lead and mark, solidify's forw structure
38. Darren Minchington - 25 - sml forw/mid - back up mid or sml forw, looked good for the saints/sandy, cant judge him as he hasnt even played a practice match so put him here
39. Matthew Walker - 19 - hff/mid - goal kicker, half forw who can play stints in the mid, contested mark
40. Will Golds - 19 - winger - learning to play against men, showed great potential in pre-season games
41. Damon Greaves - 19 - general defender - tough, hard at it defender, uses ball well, can run and carry or win the hard ball in a one on one contest
42. Tim Mohr - 30 - FB/CHB - Injured for season, back up tall def, not sure if retired or not?
43. Ned Reeves - 20 - ruck - another back up ruck, have not seen him play, im guessing he is ok?
44. Oliver Hanrahan - 21 - sml forw - quick, decent poss, poor defensive side, doesnt kick many goals, low impact
45. Conor Glass - 22 - hbf/mid? - big bodied, run and carry, poor decision maker, poor skills, too many turn overs
46. Tim O'Brien - 25 - forw/def - contests a mark, can kick accurately for goal, laconic, drops too many marks, low work rate, low impact, too many turnovers.
 
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I wonder where CJ will be placed at the end of the year.... he could be rising with a bullet.

I am also hopeful Glass will be among the best 22. On the weekend he showed that he has the physical attributes to impact our season.
 
On this and last year, with a bit of potential thrown in. Only players who've played seniors

Mitchell
Sicily
Breust
Jaeger
Wingard
Henderson
Mcevoy
Gunston*
Scully
Smith *
Worpel
Stratton*
Burgoyne*
Hardwick
Impey
Scrimshaw
Howe
Frawley
Shiels
Roughead
Cousins
Puopolo
Ceglar
Morrison
Nash
Miles
Lewis
Shoenmakers
Brand
Mirra
Moore
Glass
Pitto
TOB

Birchall

*= Down on form, but higher if normal output.
 
Worpel is number 1 now big boy 2
Hendo 3 and then it falls away badly after that

O Meara would have to be up there as well surely...a rolls Royce who has become a jack of all trades this season in the absence of Mitchell and his stats so far reflect that. Top 5 this season so far are McEvoy, Henderson, Jaeger, Worpel closely followed by Impey in my opinion.
 
O Meara would have to be up there as well surely...a rolls Royce who has become a jack of all trades this season in the absence of Mitchell and his stats so far reflect that. Top 5 this season so far are McEvoy, Henderson, Jaeger, Worpel closely followed by Impey in my opinion.
I wouldn't be putting jaeger ahead of hendo or big boy or Sicily for that matter. As for bruest gunston hardwick I've been very disappointed with
 
Yeah I agree too 5 for me in no order worps, hendo, big boy, sis and jags.
Gunston has come in underdone and is still building match fitness I think, Clarko needs to leave him in the forward line. Hardwick was poor up until the last 2 games and Breust I agree has been really poor so far but my biggest disappointment has been Isaac Smith so far.
 
League elite (top 10 in the league)
- Tom Mitchell (M)

Positionally elite (considered amongst the best in their respective positions)
- Sicily (HBF/CHB)
- Big Boy (R)
- Henderson (purely based on current form. Hopefully it lasts, but I'm doubtful) (W)

These players are, but they just aren't performing like it currently:
- Breust (HFF/FP)
- Gunston (HFF/CHF)
- Wingard (HFF/FP)
- Smith (W)
- Scully (W)
- Stratton (BP)

Very good
- Jaeger (should entrench himself in the next bracket by the end of the season) (M)
- Hardwick (BP)

Good
- Worpel (M)
- Impey (HBF/BP)
- Burgoyne (Utility)
- Shiels (M)

Servicable / decent / role players
- Scrimshaw (been very impressive and is moving up the list) (HBF)
- Frawley (FB)
- Puopolo (FP)
- Howe (M)
- Brand (CHB/FB)
- Roughie (FF)
- Ceglar (R)

Developing / squad depth
- Lewis (CHF/FF)
- Cousins (M)
- Nash (?)
- Morrison (W)
- Mirra (BP)

Backline
1 HBF/CHB - positionally elite
1 BP - positionally elite, but out of form
1 BP - very good
1 HBF/BP - good
1 HBF - decent
1 CHB - decent
1 FB - decent
1 BP - depth

Midfield + Wing
1 Mid. - league elite
1 Mid. - very good
2 Mid. - good
1 Mid. - serviceable
1 Mid. - developing / depth

1 Winger - positionally elite (playing out of his skin)
2 Wingers - positionally elite (out of form)
1 Winger - developing / depth

Ruck
1 - positionally elite
1 - serviceable

Forwards
2 HFF/FP - positionally elite, but out of form
1 HFF/CHF - positionally elite, but out of form
1 FP - serviceable / role player
1 FF - serviceable / role player
1 CHF - developing
 

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1. Tom Mitchell
2. Ben McEvoy
3. Jaeger O’Meara
4. Luke Bruest
5. Jack Gunston
6. James Sicily
7. Ben Stratton
8. James Worpel
9. Liam Shiels
10. Issac Smith
11. Chad Wingard
12. Jarman Impey
13. Tom Scully
14. Ricky Henderson
15. Blake Hardwick
16. James Frawley
17. Shaun Burgoyne
18. Jarryd Roughead
19. Kaiden Brand
20. Jack Scrimshaw
21. Daniel Howe
22. Paul Puopolo
23. John Ceglar
24. Dave Mirra
25. Harry Morrison
26. James Cousins
27. Mitch Lewis
28. Conor Nash
29. Teia Miles
30. Dylan Moore
31. Grant Birchall (chance he doesn’t play again or plays scarcely. Great player though. 2 and a half years out hurts though).
32. Ryan Shaunmakers
33. Changkouth Jiath
34. Justin Kositchtske
35. Harry Jones
36. Jackson Ross
37. Tim OBrien
38. Darren Minchington
39. Mathew Walker
40. Marc Pittonet
41. Conor Glass
42. Will Golds
43. Oliver Hanrahan
44. Damon Greaves
45. Ned Reeves
46. Tim Mohr (due to that fact he likely never plays a game for Hawthorn)
 
1. Tom Mitchell - 26 - inside mid - (Injured for the season) Brownlow Medalist, AA
2. Jaeger O'Meara - 25 - inside/outside mid - one of our better clearance players, goal kicking mid
3. James Sicily - 24 - utility(intercept defender) - intercept/rebound defender, decent one on one defending also, meters gained and counter-attacking player
4. Jack Gunston - 27 - half forward - flexible, AA, goal kicker, can play multiple positions
5. Ben McEvoy - 30 - ruck - competes well in the ruck and can float forward to clunk a mark and kick a goal, very good contested mark
6. Luke Breust - 28 - general forward - good finisher, AA, can kick a goal from anywhere inside the forw 50 area
7. Ben Stratton - 30 - general defender - good one on one, intercept mark, spoiling, captain
8. James Worpel - 20 - inside mid - good clearance numbers, good poss numbers, impact
9. Ricky Henderson - 31 - flanker/winger - runs good lines, goal kicking accuracy, work rate
10. Chad Wingard - 26 - general forw - goal kicker, x-factor, good mark, always looking to make a play
11. Tom Scully - 28 - winger/outside mid - excellent endurance, clever disposal, work rate
12. Blake Hardwick - 22 - general defender - wins one on ones, tough, very good disposal
13. James Frawley - 30 - FB - good shut down defender, can be sloppy at times, but overall is very reliable
14. Liam Shiels - 28 - defensive mid - good tackler, mature bodied mid, uses ball pretty well
15. Jonathon Ceglar - 28 - ruck - good mark, good in the ruck, ok goal kicker
16. Isaac Smith - 30 - winger - good endurance, goal kicker, run and carry
17. Dave Mirra - 28 - general defender - gets to a lot of aerial contests, intercept mark, spoil
18. Jack Scrimshaw - 21 - general defender - intercept mark, good disposal except kick-ins, run and carry
19. Jarman Impey - 24 - flanker/outside mid - run and carry, speed, impacts a contest
20. Jarryd Roughead - 32 - FF - big bodied forw, can kick a goal, decent when ball hits the ground
21. James Cousins - 21 - inside mid - stepping up this season, helping to carry the mid
22. Mitch Lewis - 20 - CHF/FF - marking tall forw, leading forw, goal kicking forw, can be used up the ground or near goal, will get his shot eventually
23. Conor Nash - 21 - general forw - quick tall forw, relies on over the top or close range goals, otherwise sets up team mates, decent defensive side
24. Shaun Burgoyne - 36 - flanker - smooth mover and user of the ball, injuries and speed letting him down
25. Paul Puopolo - 31 - sml def forw - quick in bursts, x-factor, goal a game, defensive side has fallen off a bit and his impact is off also
26. Harry Morrison - 20 - flanker-winger - clever, can run and carry, would love him to up his poss tally/impact
27. Teia Miles - 22 - hbf - run and carry, quick, good disposal, clever, energetic
28. Daniel Howe - 23 - defensive mid - tackler, tough, use the ball pretty well, can kick a goal
29. Kaiden Brand - 25 - FB - back up tall defender, good on tall opponents, intercept mark, spoil
30. Grant Birchall - 31 - hbf - unsure if he will get over 2 1/2 yr injuries
31. Jackson Ross - 20 - general forw - in really good form, still needs to build muscle, but could be an asset in 2020 AFL season if he is close to 85kg's
32. Dylan Moore - 20 - sml forw - had a great VFL Finals series with great marking and long accurate goal kicking, hasnt shown enough of that in 2019
33. Jacob Koschitzke - 18 - FB/CHB - has been injured for most of 2019, but from what little i have seen of him at VFL he looks good
34. C. Jiath - 20 - hbf - has been really good for BHH since he changed to the backline late in 2018, always gets to a contest, good intercept/rebound def
35. Harry Jones - 20 - mid/flanker - has stepped into the mid this season and with his competitiveness is making it work, still needs a bit more muscle
36. Marc Pittonet - 23 - ruck - back up ruckman, good in the ruck, average marking ability
37. Ryan Schoenmakers - 28 - CHF - a goal a game, decent lead and mark, solidify's forw structure
38. Darren Minchington - 25 - sml forw/mid - back up mid or sml forw, looked good for the saints/sandy, cant judge him as he hasnt even played a practice match so put him here
39. Matthew Walker - 19 - hff/mid - goal kicker, half forw who can play stints in the mid, contested mark
40. Will Golds - 19 - winger - learning to play against men, showed great potential in pre-season games
41. Damon Greaves - 19 - general defender - tough, hard at it defender, uses ball well, can run and carry or win the hard ball in a one on one contest
42. Tim Mohr - 30 - FB/CHB - Injured for season, back up tall def, not sure if retired or not?
43. Ned Reeves - 20 - ruck - another back up ruck, have not seen him play, im guessing he is ok?
44. Oliver Hanrahan - 21 - sml forw - quick, decent poss, poor defensive side, doesnt kick many goals, low impact
45. Conor Glass - 22 - hbf/mid? - big bodied, run and carry, poor decision maker, poor skills, too many turn overs
46. Tim O'Brien - 25 - forw/def - contests a mark, can kick accurately for goal, laconic, drops too many marks, low work rate, low impact, too many turnovers.
Excessively generous rating for TOB
 
1. Tom Mitchell - 26 - inside mid - (Injured for the season) Brownlow Medalist, AA
2. Jaeger O'Meara - 25 - inside/outside mid - one of our better clearance players, goal kicking mid
3. James Sicily - 24 - utility(intercept defender) - intercept/rebound defender, decent one on one defending also, meters gained and counter-attacking player
4. Jack Gunston - 27 - half forward - flexible, AA, goal kicker, can play multiple positions
5. Ben McEvoy - 30 - ruck - competes well in the ruck and can float forward to clunk a mark and kick a goal, very good contested mark
6. Luke Breust - 28 - general forward - good finisher, AA, can kick a goal from anywhere inside the forw 50 area
7. Ben Stratton - 30 - general defender - good one on one, intercept mark, spoiling, captain
8. James Worpel - 20 - inside mid - good clearance numbers, good poss numbers, impact
9. Ricky Henderson - 31 - flanker/winger - runs good lines, goal kicking accuracy, work rate
10. Chad Wingard - 26 - general forw - goal kicker, x-factor, good mark, always looking to make a play
11. Tom Scully - 28 - winger/outside mid - excellent endurance, clever disposal, work rate
12. Blake Hardwick - 22 - general defender - wins one on ones, tough, very good disposal
13. James Frawley - 30 - FB - good shut down defender, can be sloppy at times, but overall is very reliable
14. Liam Shiels - 28 - defensive mid - good tackler, mature bodied mid, uses ball pretty well
15. Jonathon Ceglar - 28 - ruck - good mark, good in the ruck, ok goal kicker
16. Isaac Smith - 30 - winger - good endurance, goal kicker, run and carry
17. Dave Mirra - 28 - general defender - gets to a lot of aerial contests, intercept mark, spoil
18. Jack Scrimshaw - 21 - general defender - intercept mark, good disposal except kick-ins, run and carry
19. Jarman Impey - 24 - flanker/outside mid - run and carry, speed, impacts a contest
20. Jarryd Roughead - 32 - FF - big bodied forw, can kick a goal, decent when ball hits the ground
21. James Cousins - 21 - inside mid - stepping up this season, helping to carry the mid
22. Mitch Lewis - 20 - CHF/FF - marking tall forw, leading forw, goal kicking forw, can be used up the ground or near goal, will get his shot eventually
23. Conor Nash - 21 - general forw - quick tall forw, relies on over the top or close range goals, otherwise sets up team mates, decent defensive side
24. Shaun Burgoyne - 36 - flanker - smooth mover and user of the ball, injuries and speed letting him down
25. Paul Puopolo - 31 - sml def forw - quick in bursts, x-factor, goal a game, defensive side has fallen off a bit and his impact is off also
26. Harry Morrison - 20 - flanker-winger - clever, can run and carry, would love him to up his poss tally/impact
27. Teia Miles - 22 - hbf - run and carry, quick, good disposal, clever, energetic
28. Daniel Howe - 23 - defensive mid - tackler, tough, use the ball pretty well, can kick a goal
29. Kaiden Brand - 25 - FB - back up tall defender, good on tall opponents, intercept mark, spoil
30. Grant Birchall - 31 - hbf - unsure if he will get over 2 1/2 yr injuries
31. Jackson Ross - 20 - general forw - in really good form, still needs to build muscle, but could be an asset in 2020 AFL season if he is close to 85kg's
32. Dylan Moore - 20 - sml forw - had a great VFL Finals series with great marking and long accurate goal kicking, hasnt shown enough of that in 2019
33. Jacob Koschitzke - 18 - FB/CHB - has been injured for most of 2019, but from what little i have seen of him at VFL he looks good
34. C. Jiath - 20 - hbf - has been really good for BHH since he changed to the backline late in 2018, always gets to a contest, good intercept/rebound def
35. Harry Jones - 20 - mid/flanker - has stepped into the mid this season and with his competitiveness is making it work, still needs a bit more muscle
36. Marc Pittonet - 23 - ruck - back up ruckman, good in the ruck, average marking ability
37. Ryan Schoenmakers - 28 - CHF - a goal a game, decent lead and mark, solidify's forw structure
38. Darren Minchington - 25 - sml forw/mid - back up mid or sml forw, looked good for the saints/sandy, cant judge him as he hasnt even played a practice match so put him here
39. Matthew Walker - 19 - hff/mid - goal kicker, half forw who can play stints in the mid, contested mark
40. Will Golds - 19 - winger - learning to play against men, showed great potential in pre-season games
41. Damon Greaves - 19 - general defender - tough, hard at it defender, uses ball well, can run and carry or win the hard ball in a one on one contest
42. Tim Mohr - 30 - FB/CHB - Injured for season, back up tall def, not sure if retired or not?
43. Ned Reeves - 20 - ruck - another back up ruck, have not seen him play, im guessing he is ok?
44. Oliver Hanrahan - 21 - sml forw - quick, decent poss, poor defensive side, doesnt kick many goals, low impact
45. Conor Glass - 22 - hbf/mid? - big bodied, run and carry, poor decision maker, poor skills, too many turn overs
46. Tim O'Brien - 25 - forw/def - contests a mark, can kick accurately for goal, laconic, drops too many marks, low work rate, low impact, too many turnovers.

I don’t see the value in this ranking.
Is it current or with a look towards the next silverware?
Is it about their current value to the team?
Or is it about the future?

Case In Point: Kosi: at 33 on your list. untried and may be a bust. But for mine he is critical for the Hawks future... I’d have him in the top 20 for importance.

You need to state your criteria for Ranking. Then the question may mean something.
 
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