Scg Way To Small

[JF_Bay_22_SCG]

The Sydney Cricket Ground remains the premier Australian Rules football venue in Sydney despite Stadium Australia having a much larger capacity.

Disagree. Telstra Stadium is superior in nearly all aspects. Ok, the atmosphere at the SCG is better, but facilties-wise it is really no contest. The queues at the loos bwehind the goals last night were a disgrace; I end up going around to the wing to take a leek. And getting food, forget it; you can miss 25 minutes just standing in line.

But when you consider that the swans DO NOT PAY RENT at the SCG, there is no reason to really want to leave. As the SCG Trust know that if their number one tenant leaves, the ground will virtually become a white elephant.

JF

 

[JF_Bay_22_SCG]

So Stadium Australia is longer but an even smaller ground... interesting. That destroys the ol SCG is too small so let the Swans play permanently at Stadium Australia argument.

This pretty much gives you a better comparison.

In a nutshell- Homebush = long and thin, SCG=short and a complete circle.

JF

 

[Tim_in_Philly]

Watching the game now and the ground is so small. One chip gets you into your fwd 50. The SCG is a disgraceful AFL venue to bloody small.

Actually the SCG is 5% BIGGER than Kardinia Park in area due to KP being ridiculously narrow. If you mean too SHORT rather than too SMALL then say so. Otherwise, bag your own ground.

 

[Foreign Legion]

Disagree. Telstra Stadium is superior in nearly all aspects. Ok, the atmosphere at the SCG is better, but facilties-wise it is really no contest. The queues at the loos bwehind the goals last night were a disgrace; I end up going around to the wing to take a leek. And getting food, forget it; you can miss 25 minutes just standing in line.


JF

What did the leek taste like JF?

Where is the best place to stay near Telstra Stadium?

 

[saintsrule]

Sydney Cricket Ground (SCG) 147m x 136m
Colonial Stadium - Melbourne 159m x 130m
Football Park - Adelaide 165m x 133m
Wollongabba Cricket Ground (the "Gabba") - Brisbane 160m x 139m
Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) - Melbourne 160m x 139m
Optus Oval - Melbourne 160m x 139m
Manuka Oval - Canberra 164m x 136m
Subiaco - Perth 170m x 122m
York Park - Launceston 165m x 135m
Baytec Stadium (formerly Kardinia Park/Shell Stadium) - Geelong 169m x 115m
Stadium Australia - Sydney 159m x 118m

SCG is much wider than KP. The narrowness of that ground is not an optical illusion, although it is the second longest.

 

[DST]

There is talk that the SCG are looking to demolish the hill end of the end ground and build a new stand. If that is the case I am sure the plan would be to steal another 10 or so meters to fix the problem.

DST

 

[Roonaldo!]

But when you consider that the swans DO NOT PAY RENT at the SCG, there is no reason to really want to leave. As the SCG Trust know that if their number one tenant leaves, the ground will virtually become a white elephant.

JF

A piece of info I didn't know.

 

[Kingpin]

Sydney Cricket Ground (SCG) 147m x 136m
Baytec Stadium (formerly Kardinia Park/Shell Stadium) - Geelong 169m x 115m
Stadium Australia - Sydney 159m x 118m

Very intereting regarding both the SCG's & Telstra Stadium's dimensions, as well as the width of Geelong.
The AFL pooh-hoooed North Hobart Oval as a venue to play AFL football some time ago because of its small playing surface.
North Hobart is 154m x 112m which is pitifully small, it would appear that Telstra Stadium is only 5m longer and 6m wider than North Hobart.
The SCG is 7m shorter than North Hobart Now that IS short.
Interesting interpretations from the AFL there.

Kardinia Park Dimensions: 183.7m by 149m
MCG Dimensions: 172.7m by 149m

I've seen those measurements in the 1991 AFL Year book as well.
I'm not sure who does the measurements but they differ massively depending on which publication you pick up.
I think I've seen three or four different readings on ground dimensions over the years.

 

[cos789]

The Sydney Cricket Ground remains the premier Australian Rules football venue in Sydney despite Stadium Australia having a much larger capacity.

You don't even TRY to hide your trolling these days littledick .

 

[Rob]

Very intereting regarding both the SCG's & Telstra Stadium's dimensions, as well as the width of Geelong.
The AFL pooh-hoooed North Hobart Oval as a venue to play AFL football some time ago because of its small playing surface.
North Hobart is 154m x 112m which is pitifully small, it would appear that Telstra Stadium is only 5m longer and 6m wider than North Hobart.
The SCG is 7m shorter than North Hobart Now that IS short.
Interesting interpretations from the AFL there.

Also interesting considering the facilities at NH are crap, there is no local team, there are other (i.e better) ground options in Tassie and the capacity is less than a quarter that of TS.

Actually no, it's not interesting at all.

 

[jourgo]

Sydney Cricket Ground (SCG) 147m x 136m
Colonial Stadium - Melbourne 159m x 130m
Football Park - Adelaide 165m x 133m
Wollongabba Cricket Ground (the "Gabba") - Brisbane 160m x 139m
Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) - Melbourne 160m x 139m
Optus Oval - Melbourne 160m x 139m
Manuka Oval - Canberra 164m x 136m
Subiaco - Perth 170m x 122m
York Park - Launceston 165m x 135m
Baytec Stadium (formerly Kardinia Park/Shell Stadium) - Geelong 169m x 115m
Stadium Australia - Sydney 159m x 118m

SCG is much wider than KP. The narrowness of that ground is not an optical illusion, although it is the second longest.

Isn't that interesting!

Looking at some of those dimensions answers a few questions (like why Brisbane play the MCG so well!)

I never realised Subiaco was so narrow. It does stay comparively wide through the flanks and into the pockets though. I guess that's where all the space comes from.

 

[Mr Q]

Watching the game now and the ground is so small. One chip gets you into your fwd 50. The SCG is a disgraceful AFL venue to bloody small.

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhh. Did you lose again or something?

 

[Dutch Wink]

Isn't that interesting!

Looking at some of those dimensions answers a few questions (like why Brisbane play the MCG so well!)

it used to be our bogey ground leading up to the 2001 GF...

 

[TrewTIGER]

Sizes are one thing - Tigers/Dees amonst others cannot play Princess/Optus oval, but since renovations it is the exact same size as MCG. There are so many intangibles as to who plays well at certain ground. AAMI we lost our 1st 7, won our next 7 and haven't won since (sorry realised this is our records against SA clubs, though many at AAMI).

 

[Kingpin]

Also interesting considering the facilities at NH are crap,

Ever been there at all? You missed the point of what I was saying anyway. The AFL wouldn't continue playing games on the ground because of the size of the playing surface, not because of the facilities, which I agree with you aren't good. It's hardly changed since WW2.
I found it a little odd that TS playing surface is very similar to North Hobart yet they haven't had any complaints like they did about the ground up the road.
That is however, if that particular dimension reading, regarding Telstra is correct.

there is no local team,

Really? I would never have known.

there are other (i.e better) ground options in Tassie and the capacity is less than a quarter that of TS.

Aurora is the best stadium around in Tassie now. But a LOT of people in the capital would like to see an AFL game in this city, after all Hobart has no top quality football played here anymore, and the sport is suffering an accute lack of interest in Hobart compared to previous times.
Bellerive would be the best standard ground in the South facility wise, but its capacity, atmosphere and access is not as good as North Hobart.
A Bellerive size playing surface and facilities, combined with North Hobart's capacity, atmosphere and access would be ideal.
Not withstanding the fact that I could walk 400m to an AFL game

Actually no, it's not interesting at all.

But then again, I wasn't asking if you were interested.

 

[Provost_]

SUBIACO 175.6*122.4
DARWIN 175*135
SKILLED STADIUM 172*117.5
YORK PARK 170*140
GABBA 166*143
AAMI STADIUM 165*133
MANUKA OVAL 162.5*138.4
OPTUS OVAL 160*139.2
MCG 160*138
CAIRNS 160*138
TELSTRA STADIUM 158.7*118
TELSTRA DOME 158*128
SCG 147*136

Its interesting the different figures floating around out there.

 

[Tezmyster]

Its interesting the different figures floating around out there.

Time to get out the tape measure

 

[Rob]

Ever been there at all? You missed the point of what I was saying anyway. The AFL wouldn't continue playing games on the ground because of the size of the playing surface, not because of the facilities, which I agree with you aren't good. It's hardly changed since WW2.
I found it a little odd that TS playing surface is very similar to North Hobart yet they haven't had any complaints like they did about the ground up the road.
That is however, if that particular dimension reading, regarding Telstra is correct.

I know what you're saying, but sometimes there are mitigating factors. I have been to NH a few years ago and had a wander round. But it's not like it's such a great stadium with no other options available. Yes, the SCG and TS are probably to small. But what's your point? That the AFL should stop playing there? Put yourself in the AFL's position.

 

[SouthSwans]

Watching the game now and the ground is so small. One chip gets you into your fwd 50. The SCG is a disgraceful AFL venue to bloody small.

have a cry... looks like another idiot bitching about choking against us

 

[Im The Gun]

Now now, lets not be sore losers.

yeah, be like carlton, just losers!

 

[Im The Gun]

The ground is too small, but unlike every other major ground in teh league it's the only one that wasn't built for aussie rules as well cricket.
Remember there wasn't a game of VFL/AFL played on the ground until the early 80's and it was used for cricket during the summer, Rugby during the winter.
It's up to the SCG if they want to make the ground longer, but they must know that the football bring in more money than the cricket does.

The ground in years to come will be pushed back into the background and TS used more.

With the rules in cricket changed with the rope, the ground can be shaped into a football ground a little more and it won't impact the cricket field.