Opinion The Ruck. We need to talk.

[Firebat]

Most overated position in AFL football. Here are some premiership ruckman:

• Mason Cox
• Rhys Stanley
• Trent West
• Mark Blake
• Mike Pyke
• Jordan Roughhead
• Max Bailey

Xerri and CCJ can limp through the next two years until Goad gets rolling or we pick up someone on the annual merry go round.

Ruck depth/quality is the least of our worries.

Counter point is Toby Nankervis, Max Gawn & Jackson, Blicavs & Stanley, Big O just played in a losing grand final by 4 pts, McEvoy & Hale… Cox is better in the ruck than most people want to believe.

You do need talent there who can contribute to the game.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

Lucky we drafted Jacob Edwards a couple of years back, should be primed to take the ruck role now

He was so highly touted ... sorry I've just been handed a note ... he what? when?

 

[Gasometer]

What we are now talking about the Ruck?

 

[Lomas]

Lucky we drafted Jacob Edwards a couple of years back, should be primed to take the ruck role now

He was so highly touted ... sorry I've just been handed a note ... he what? when?

It’s fine, Goldy can go around for another year…..

 

[Passmore]

Xerri fractured a cheekbone. He didn’t get decapitated. He’ll be back pretty soon you’d think.

 

[Gasometer]

Thoughts after two run outs?

 

[ferball]

Thoughts after two run outs?

He's good enough for now. Not the best tapwork yesterday (perhaps on the mids more than him, they constantly started behind their opponents) and needs to mark more but he's a weapon at ground level. if he improves those things he was lacking in he'll be a great player for us.

 

[shintemaster]

Thoughts after two run outs?

Good enough for mine and I think he can and should improve with a consistent block of 40-50 games under his belt. We definitely need another option coming in behind him to develop over the next couple of years though.

 

[Shegga]

Really enjoying watching an aggressive ruckman. Goldy was skilful and soft. Xerri rough around edges but tough. With Goad coming in behind we are well set for future. 2nd ruck we need to be creative. Liked Greenwood last year, think Zurhaar can do it for 5 minutes a qtr, would help get him into game. We have so much depth fwd he wouldn't be missed in that area.

 

[Gasometer]

Good mark and goal X

A solid run today

Keep it up

 

[Waynesworld]

Agreed think big X was good tonight.

 

[DaveyBoy123]

I thought he'd hold his own for the year and just wanted him to stay fit.

But he's done way better than that: He's fairly clearly beaten Marshall & Briggs so far this year, who were both top 5 rated rucks last season.

 

[RossHenshaw]

I for one never doubted him and defended his worth in the side from day one.
Hold your head high X . Well done . (There was a reason why the Saints were all over him a few years ago )

 

[hilly]

Good effort v Briggs.

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[Twinkletoes]

Well done by X. Briggs has rag dolled Goldy in the past. X took the behemoth on today and more than held his own…….he pantsed him.

 

[Gasometer]

We need to talk again

Multi year deal on the table v will X progress with the skill set required?

Is this it? Is the best we can expect?

 

[disco_cowboy]

We need to talk again

Multi year deal on the table v will X progress with the skill set required?

Is this it? Is the best we can expect?

Does it matter?

 

[ansonholt]

Player Statistics Comparison​

Tristan Xerri​ Name​ Todd Goldstein​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Team​ Essendon Bombers​ Ruck​ Position​ Ruck​ 38​ Career Games​ 320​ Western Jets​ Origin​ Oakleigh​ March 15, 1999​ Date of Birth​ July 1, 1988​ 25yr 1mth​ Age​ Turned 25 in 2013​ 201cm​ Height​ 201cm​ 99kg​ Weight​ 101kg​ 2017 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2006 National Draft​ Round 5, Pick #72​ Last Draft Position​ Round 3, Pick #37​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Last Drafted By​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ 2024​ Stats for Season​ 2013​ 5​ Games​ 22​ 4.4​ Kicks​ 5.1​ 10.0​ Handballs​ 6.8​ 14.4​ Disposals​ 11.9​ 2.0​ Marks​ 3.0​ 0.4​ Goals​ 0.6​ 0​ Behinds​ 0.2​ 8.0​ Tackles​ 3.0​ 32.2​ Hitouts​ 37.4​ 1.4​ Inside 50s​ 1.4​ 0​ Goal Assists​ 0.2​ 2.4​ Frees For​ 1.2​ 1.6​ Frees Against​ 0.8​ 11.2​ Contested Possessions​ 6.9​ 3.6​ Uncontested Possessions​ 5.3​ 10.8​ Effective Disposals​ 8.6​ 75%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 72.3%​ 3.0​ Clangers​ 1.6​ 0.6​ Contested Marks​ 0.8​ 0.2​ Marks Inside 50​ 0.3​ 7.2​ Clearances​ 2.5​ 0.6​ Rebound 50s​ 0.6​ 1.6​ One Percenters​ 2.5​ 0​ Bounces​ 0​ 83.2​ Time On Ground %​ 94.8​ 3.6​ Centre Clearances​ ​ 3.6​ Stoppage Clearances​ ​ 3.2​ Score Involvements​ ​ 68.6​ Metres Gained​ ​ 1.8​ Turnovers​ ​ 1.4​ Intercepts​ ​ 0.4​ Tackles Inside 50​ ​ 103.4​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 89.9​ 102.2​ Supercoach Score​ 113.5​

 

[ansonholt]

Player Statistics Comparison​

Tristan Xerri​ Name​ Max Gawn​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Team​ Melbourne Demons​ Ruck​ Position​ Ruck​ 38​ Career Games​ 209​ Western Jets​ Origin​ Sandringham Dragons​ March 15, 1999​ Date of Birth​ December 30, 1991​ 25yr 1mth​ Age​ Turned 25 in 2016​ 201cm​ Height​ 209cm​ 99kg​ Weight​ 110kg​ 2017 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2009 National Draft​ Round 5, Pick #72​ Last Draft Position​ Round 3, Pick #34​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Last Drafted By​ Melbourne Demons​ 2024​ Stats for Season​ 2016​ 5​ Games​ 22​ 4.4​ Kicks​ 7.0​ 10.0​ Handballs​ 7.5​ 14.4​ Disposals​ 14.4​ 2.0​ Marks​ 4.1​ 0.4​ Goals​ 0.7​ 0​ Behinds​ 0.5​ 8.0​ Tackles​ 3.6​ 32.2​ Hitouts​ 42.2​ 1.4​ Inside 50s​ 1.5​ 0​ Goal Assists​ 0.4​ 2.4​ Frees For​ 1.4​ 1.6​ Frees Against​ 1.6​ 11.2​ Contested Possessions​ 8.4​ 3.6​ Uncontested Possessions​ 6.3​ 10.8​ Effective Disposals​ 10.4​ 75%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 72.2%​ 3.0​ Clangers​ 2.7​ 0.6​ Contested Marks​ 2.1​ 0.2​ Marks Inside 50​ 1.0​ 7.2​ Clearances​ 3.0​ 0.6​ Rebound 50s​ 0.9​ 1.6​ One Percenters​ 3.7​ 0​ Bounces​ 0​ 83.2​ Time On Ground %​ 84.4​ 3.6​ Centre Clearances​ 1.1​ 3.6​ Stoppage Clearances​ 1.9​ 3.2​ Score Involvements​ 5.6​ 68.6​ Metres Gained​ 149.1​ 1.8​ Turnovers​ 2.3​ 1.4​ Intercepts​ 2.9​ 0.4​ Tackles Inside 50​ 0.4​ 103.4​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 106.5​ 102.2​ Supercoach Score​ 118.5​

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We need to talk again

Multi year deal on the table v will X progress with the skill set required?

Is this it? Is the best we can expect?

X is competing at a high level. He just needs to dial in his tap work. If he can improve it even 10-20% then that’s all we need for the time being.

Fingers crossed he is just keeping his seat warm until Goad mature physically. When he is ready we’ll have our freakishly athletic ruckman.

 

[King Corey]

Player Statistics Comparison​

Tristan Xerri​ Name​ Todd Goldstein​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Team​ Essendon Bombers​ Ruck​ Position​ Ruck​ 38​ Career Games​ 320​ Western Jets​ Origin​ Oakleigh​ March 15, 1999​ Date of Birth​ July 1, 1988​ 25yr 1mth​ Age​ Turned 25 in 2013​ 201cm​ Height​ 201cm​ 99kg​ Weight​ 101kg​ 2017 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2006 National Draft​ Round 5, Pick #72​ Last Draft Position​ Round 3, Pick #37​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ Last Drafted By​ North Melbourne Kangaroos​ 2024​ Stats for Season​ 2013​ 5​ Games​ 22​ 4.4​ Kicks​ 5.1​ 10.0​ Handballs​ 6.8​ 14.4​ Disposals​ 11.9​ 2.0​ Marks​ 3.0​ 0.4​ Goals​ 0.6​ 0​ Behinds​ 0.2​ 8.0​ Tackles​ 3.0​ 32.2​ Hitouts​ 37.4​ 1.4​ Inside 50s​ 1.4​ 0​ Goal Assists​ 0.2​ 2.4​ Frees For​ 1.2​ 1.6​ Frees Against​ 0.8​ 11.2​ Contested Possessions​ 6.9​ 3.6​ Uncontested Possessions​ 5.3​ 10.8​ Effective Disposals​ 8.6​ 75%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 72.3%​ 3.0​ Clangers​ 1.6​ 0.6​ Contested Marks​ 0.8​ 0.2​ Marks Inside 50​ 0.3​ 7.2​ Clearances​ 2.5​ 0.6​ Rebound 50s​ 0.6​ 1.6​ One Percenters​ 2.5​ 0​ Bounces​ 0​ 83.2​ Time On Ground %​ 94.8​ 3.6​ Centre Clearances​ ​ 3.6​ Stoppage Clearances​ ​ 3.2​ Score Involvements​ ​ 68.6​ Metres Gained​ ​ 1.8​ Turnovers​ ​ 1.4​ Intercepts​ ​ 0.4​ Tackles Inside 50​ ​ 103.4​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 89.9​ 102.2​ Supercoach Score​ 113.5​

Doesn't tell the full story. The quality of the hits and skills are stratospheres apart.

Let alone Gawn and Goldstein ability to play as KPP.

 

[Topparoo]

X more than holds his own based on those figures

 

[Psi-Roos]

A lot of useless stats there. No one is questioning his work around the ground, or tenacity. The issue is, when it comes to Tapwork.... Fred Astaire he ain't.

 

[Gasometer]

Does it matter?

Starts in the middle and the middle, well…

 

[DuckYeah]

I love how people criticise players for being one dimensional yet allow this bloke a free pass because he lays tackles. His ruck work is puss, he is virtually unsighted in marking contests, he is torched by fitter opponents.

The obvious is he will continue to get better, however.. North should be going hard after 2 OOC contract players from the mutts and one of them is English.