F1 The Wash Up - Previous 2024 Race Weekends

[Eaglemaniac]

It wasn't weaving. He moves left to cut off the inside and then moved right as all drivers have to do to make that corner. There is a reason why nobody (even the massive LeClerc homers) have said anything about it being weaving.

Exactly. If you watch Jolyon Palmers analysis of Oscar’s pass & subsequent defending, he shows how Oscar moved early so there was a clear gap between them which shut down Leclercs chance to go down the inside in the next corner.

 

[BomberFan355]

Question.

All things being equal, who else on the grid do people in here think could have dealt with that sustained attack for 25+ laps and held their nerve and their position?

I can think of 2 and another 3 maybes.

I think Hamilton and Alonso definitely and then Max, Leclerc and Daniel likely, I'm thinking no-one else.

We see each race mid-pack, slower cars holding up the faster cars lap after lap but I just think that attack by Le Clerc on Piastri was next level. I've been watching F1 for 40 odd years and I can't remember another battle in a race that was that close and lasted that long. I was almost sweating watching it. I found it more gripping than either of the AFL semi-finals.

Russell till the last corner.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

As of Rd 17	Driver	Team	Points
1	Max Verstappen	Oracle Red Bull Racing	313
2	Lando Norris	McLaren Formula 1 Team	254
3	Charles Leclerc	Scuderia Ferrari HP	235
4	Oscar Piastri	McLaren Formula 1 Team	222
5	Carlos Sainz Jr	Scuderia Ferrari HP	184
6	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team	166
7	George Russell	Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team	143
8	Sergio Pérez	Oracle Red Bull Racing	143
9	Fernando Alonso	Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team	58
10	Lance Stroll	Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team	24
11	Nico Hülkenberg	Moneygram Haas F1 Team	22
12	Yuki Tsunoda	Visa Cash App RB F1 Team	22
13	Alexander Albon	Williams Racing	12
14	Daniel Ricciardo	Visa Cash App RB F1 Team	12
15	Pierre Gasly	Alpine F1 Team	8
16	Oliver Bearman	Scuderia Ferrari HP / Haas	7
17	Kevin Magnussen	Moneygram Haas F1 Team	6
18	Esteban Ocon	Alpine F1 Team	5
19	Franco Colapinto	Williams Racing	4
20	Zhou Guanyu	Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber	0
21	Valtteri Bottas	Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber	0
22	Logan Sargeant	Williams Racing	0

 

[happy_eagle]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

 

[Cromulant]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

I mean he's got a third of the points Albono has in 2 races.

That car could be a surprise packet next year

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Colapinto has 4 points, Ricciardo has 12, Gasly 8, Bearman 7

Not anymore!

 

[happy_eagle]

Let the wild unnecessary speculation begin

 

[Barrybran]

Let the wild unnecessary speculation begin

"Daniel, don't tell them Max is leaving."

 

[Cromulant]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

 

[Jatz]

Him being the 5th wheel is the right call. Which if they've decided to go that way, I don't know why you'd delay it any further, give Liam as much time behind the wheel as you can.

 

[Cromulant]

Him being the 5th wheel is the right call. Which if they've decided to go that way, I don't know why you'd delay it any further, give Liam as much time behind the wheel as you can.

Sounds like Iwasa is the reserve driver next year too.

Dan will drive NASCAR

 

[Guardian Hawk]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

I know I'm a Dan fan, but I reckon he is a little unlucky this time (if the rumours are true)...

This season, in race finishes against his teammate, it is 9-8 to Ricciardo. If you include sprints, Ricciardo leads Tsunoda 11-9.

Since they changed his chassis after Ricciardo suggested something wasn't right, Ricciardo has beaten Tsunoda 7-2 on race weekends (that's the last 9 races).

I suppose the unlucky part is that has timed itself with the VCARB being overtaken by basically all the other teams (bar Sauber) so even though he is driving better and finishing higher, there are no points on offer for it to count in the championship. Had he gone past Tsunoda in the championship (as his race results would suggest), it would make the decision to move him on significantly harder.

 

[skam85]

Sounds like Iwasa is the reserve driver next year too.

Dan will drive NASCAR

Not Hadjar?

 

[Cromulant]

Not Hadjar?

It was a Marko line, but its expected to be Iwasa

 

[Festerz]

I mean ir looks like he's done sadly.

He's done reasonably well in races against Yuki the last 6 rounds or so, but it's not enough.

 

[Duck Farmer]

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lol - equally applicable

 

[Cromulant]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

 

[Gak Attack]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

Norris and Max taking each other out and not scoring points and Oscar winning would sure make things interesting.

 

[happy_eagle]

If Norris were to DNF this weekend and Oscar wins...... there would have to be a very tricky conversation had in the Mclaren Motorhome.

If Lando doesn't make up points to Max every single race weekend, the championship battle is over.

Tbh though I think the championship battle is already over, particularly if RB have figured out some of their car gremlins like they suspect they have.

 

[happy_eagle]

The one thing that makes me think this isn't Daniel's last race, is that I would have expected Red Bull to announce it before hand and at least have some sort of farewell. Would be particularly cruel on the guy as popular as Daniel to just announce he's not seeing the next race after this one is complete.

So this makes me think either
1. Liam will be announced for 2025 taking Daniels seat after Singapore, but Daniel given the rest of the season (most likely imo).
2. Liam into the RB, Daniel replacing Perez for 7 races (unlikely).

 

[Festerz]

Singapore is a race where quali is the best session of the weekend.

But the weather forecast of rain for all days could mix things up a bit.

Still thinking that Lando will do all he can to redeem himself here and take pole.

 

[Father Jack]

So after all this kerfuffle about drivers swearing, Sky starts off the weekend with Ted dropping the f-bomb live on telly before P1 even starts

 

[Festerz]

So after all this kerfuffle about drivers swearing, Sky starts off the weekend with Ted dropping the f-bomb live on telly before P1 even starts

Yep. That was a shocker.

SkyF1UK have this almost biblical aversion to swearing and their pit commentator throws out the f-bomb across their global coverage.

Most unlike Ted and Sky it must be said.

Maybe the pressure of comments about the bias of his commentary is starting to bite.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Yep. That was a shocker.

SkyF1UK have this almost biblical aversion to swearing and their pit commentator throws out the f-bomb across their global coverage.

Most unlike Ted and Sky it must be said.

Maybe the pressure of comments about the bias of their commentary is getting to them.

For those of us who only tune in at 11pm on Saturday night, what was the context here? Was a hot mic or a slip of the tongue?

 

[Festerz]

For those of us who only tune in at 11pm on Saturday night, what was the context here? Was a hot mic or a slip of the tongue?

Was commenting on the Ferrari front wing set up from the pits and was struggling with his words.

"fking hell sorry lets try that again" is what was broadcast as that cross ended. The feed switching to an unprepared Lazenby saying 'perhaps we'll come back to that' made it all worthwhile.