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Rookies.

Ask anyone who knows me, and they’ll tell you I’ve always said rookies are the lifeblood of our competition. They are extremely very important and relevant to me and moreso the league and deserve centre stage in the Sweet FA arena.

And I’ve always said that.

And yes, this is a TiFmedia stats thread. And no, I probably haven’t done a stats thread before. Not a proper one anyway.

But TiF, shouldn’t this be a “TiF Stats Production” or something like that? Like all the other stats media threads? Well the answer to that my friends is...

Well yeah probably. But no, no it’s not that type of thread folks.

Now it goes without saying, this piece wouldn’t have come about without the tireless work and incredible gift of Sweet FA+(plus) that Hate has bestowed on all of us to make almost any analytical statistics heavy media these days. But it should be said over and over because Hate is a king amongst men and should be thanked in every single media piece that leverages his resource. Thank you Hate, you superstar you.

Where was I? Yes, stats. AND rookies.

Also clubs, and seasons. And the league. Retention, maybe a pinch of expansion, and graphs. Lots and lots of graphs. Mostly bars. And numbers, but mainly, graphs. Bar graphs to be precise.


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Now when I started this bit, I set out wanting to see if there was a correlation between an increase in rookie fascination and celebration via the Rising Star Award grandiosity, and a decrease in said rookies’ loyalty to the clubs who recruited them courtesy of their newfound celebrity status. It looked to me like it was becoming ‘a thing’ but then the Rising Star ded and then there wasn't, and now it wasn’t. Well, not worthy of a media piece dissecting & scrutinising it anyway.

So where I’ve kinda ended up with this now is actually something strikingly similar to Dav’s rookie retention piece a few seasons back, which I guess is part homage, part tribute... all stats. And graphs. Lots of graphs.

So I’ve compiled some data on recruitment in the modern era (post S24), to take a closer look at rookie retention primarily, whether it be to the league and/or to their club. I think you’ll find this may discount some long held urban myths regarding certain clubs i.e Bombers & Bears recruit too many and keep too few, the Gumbies do neither well at all etc. The league - i.e a dramatic increase in rookie recruitment and interest in the league that demanded expansion, that the Rising Star Award has been a key driving force behind rookie retention and so on and so forth.

Oh and these are real numbers. Not s**t stirring numbers. I could have used s**t stirring numbers which would have the same effect, but I didn’t think of that until now did I?

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TiF talks... Rookies - Clubs
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    Now I did promise lots of bar graphs. So if it's graphs you're after, bar graphs especially... then this is the post for you.

    Firstly, we have Rookie recruitment by club, looking at the raw numbers of rookies recruited by each club between S24 & S36. I have included the Old Boys for some reason, but more for reference purposes only.

    I've then broken that down to the Average rookies per season by club to analyse each club's average number of rookie recruits per season over the same time period, however the Old Boys figure reflects their average since joining the competition in S34 for comparison.

    Going a step further and observing the trends in retention of said rookies, we can see a breakdown of each club's retention of said rookies with the Retention by club graph observing the drop offs at Season 3 and Season 5 of all rookie crops recruited between S24 & S32. I have also included the same data into Retention by club by % to better represent the drop offs as a percentage of their raw recruitment for contrast.

    Lastly I've compiled the data on Recruits lost to opposition clubs, to highlight how many of the rookies recruited to each club over the time period of s24-S36 have sought greener pastures elsewhere, with the markers of Season 3 & Season 5 for each rookie crop over that time period telling a bit of a tale in each club's ability to retain the rookies they've recruited to the league.

    I've included more stray thoughts masquerading as insights for each of the litany of graphical representations of the stats I have so painstakingly compiled below.


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    • Disregarding the Old Boys who perhaps unfairly have been included for comparison in the first graph, the Demons have recruited the least number of rookies in the league since S24, however have had one of the strongest and most stable lists over that same period. They average just 1.6 rookies per season.
    • The Bombers, Furies and Gumbies have been the heaviest recruiting clubs of the modern era, with the Bombers topping out at 48 rookies since S24. The Furies possibly the surprise there, however oppo skippers will remember a period where the Furies pounced on every new entrant via the new sign ups thread.


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    • Excluding the Old Boys, the league has recruited 2.5 rookies per club on average since S24.
    • For comparison, the Old Boys are averaging 3 rookies per season since entering the league in S34, a touch above league average. We know about the WAGS, however just how many of these are actually relatives, neighbours and work colleagues forced to surrender their email addresses for Bigfooty accounts they don't know exist is anyone's guess.
    • The league average of rookie recruits for each club in total between S24-S36 is 33.4 (excluding the Old Boys)
    • The Bombers lead the league in rookie recruitment quantity in a stat that will shock no one, averaging 3.7 rookies per season between S24-S36.

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    • The Warriors surprisingly have seen the greatest drop off of rookies into their third season with just 35% making it to that marker, yet those that make it through generally establish themselves into their 5th season in the comp with a healthy 30% retention rate, the 4th best retention rate in the Sweet FA.
    • The league average retention rate into season 3 is a healthy 47.5%, yet by their 5th season that figure drops to just 29.1% on average.
    • The Bears have seen the starkest drop off in the league by season 5 for their rookie recruits over the same time period, with just 16.2% of Bears rookies making it through to their 5th season despite the Bears retaining an impressive 48.6% of their rookies into season 3, the 4th best ratio in the comp.
    • The Hawks/Phoenix have been the strongest club in the retention space over this same period, with 58.8% of their rookies making it to season 3, only slightly dipping to 41.2% of their rookie recruits making it through to their 5th season in the comp. The next best being the Dragons with 34.8% of their rookies retained through to season 5.

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    • As far as losing rookies to other clubs is concerned, the Wonders top the charts with 10 rookies finding homes elsewhere between S24-S36, while for contrast the Old Boys are yet to lose a single rookie to another club since their inception in S34, quite possibly because none of them exist apart from Mrs Turbo whose voice I heard on a podcast once.
    • The next best club in this space being the Swampies with just a single rookie forging their path elsewhere over the modern era in their 5th season at the club.
    • The Bears have seen the most rookies seek opportunity elsewhere by season 3 over this period, with no less than 5 rookies finding new homes across the Sweet FA. Perhaps most notably the Gumbies' saviour Barrybran.
    • 4 clubs (Phoenix, Furies, Dees & Wonders) have lost rookies in their debut season. All four clubs are also the only clubs to have lost rookies by each of the Season 1, Season 3 & Season 5 markers.
    • 3 clubs (Warriors, Dragons & Royals) have only lost rookies to oppo clubs in their 3rd seasons.
    • The Old Boys are yet to lose a single rookie recruit to an opposition club (because they don't exist, probably)
    • The league average is 3.9 club swaps by rookies between their debut and 5th seasons in the competition.
     
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    • TheInjuryFactory said:
    The Old Boys are yet to lose a single rookie recruit to an opposition club
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    What a culture the new club has bought into the league.

    An outstanding program that sees new additions happy in their surrounds.



    Hopefully one of the rooks is learning about squad management and teamsheets as we speak.....
     

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    Elton Johns Wig said:
    What a culture the new club has bought into the league.

    An outstanding program that sees new additions happy in their surrounds.



    Hopefully one of the rooks is learning about squad management and teamsheets as we speak.....
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    Yes what amazing additions these rookies have been! 🙌

    Who could forget league darlings and household names like...

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    Chili

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    TiF talks... Rookies - Players
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    And lastly, a look at some statistical quirks from a player perspective.

    As I said at the start, the initial premise I wished to test was that club hopping had increased, due in part to an era where rookie PMs became en vogue and the Rising Star was doing it's best to make somethings out of nobodies. Now while not exactly the results I was expecting, there's still some interesting trends when reviewing the rookie club swaps by season for each rookie class from S24 onward in their first 5 seasons.

    While I was there, I was also interested to take a closer look at just how many club captains per rookie intake have been produced in the modern era. Not all rookie classes are created equal, and possibly the most important metric to assess a rookie class on is the impact said rookies can make on the league once they arrive and have they stepped up to take custodianship of the league when their time comes.

    Lastly Elton Johns Wig expressed his bitter disappointment at his rookie season of S23 not being included in this analysis mostly due to his domination of said rookie season apparently, and so for comparison's sake I've taken a deep dive into EKA Medal Winners between S23 & S35 inclusive.


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    • Club swaps have increased in recent times, after a modern era low of just 1 player (Piggy Smalls who crossed from the Furies to the Wazzas in S32) from the S29 crop which as you can see is a massive outlier over the past 10 seasons. The average since has been 7 per rookie crop. Prior to S29, the average was 5 per rookie intake somewhat proving my suspicions. Make of that what you will.

    • The S30 crop has been the most transient of the modern era, with no less than 9 club swaps in their first 5 seasons in the competition. 4 rookie crops (S27,S28, S32 & S33) have seen 6 club swaps from their ranks over that same initial 5 seasons in the competition, the most consistent trend across the 10 seasons compared. Notable club hoppers from these crops include ArdentEagle, Bonz, Cadsky, Chat Pile, the late Metalcrusher, DenieD, Greenery, Wonders ex-brothers in arms damicky & Brenton Davy and prized S35 Warriors recruit CursingFijian.


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    • Unsurprisingly, the widely acknowledged weak rookie field of S27 has only had the one skipper to date, AceAndy. However Ace enjoyed the ultimate success as he went on to captain his side to a premiership in S28, just his second season in the league and first at the helm.


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    • Now despite the long held view that not all EKA winners are created equal, the above suggests otherwise, as we have seen a consistent trend across every season between S23-S35 of EKA Medal winners.

     
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    • TheInjuryFactory said:
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    Now I did promise lots of bar graphs. So if it's graphs you're after, bar graphs especially... then this is the post for you.

    Firstly, we have Rookie recruitment by club, looking at the raw numbers of rookies recruited by each club between S24 & S36. I have included the Old Boys for some reason, but more for reference purposes only.

    I've then broken that down to the Average rookies per season by club to analyse each club's average number of rookie recruits per season over the same time period, however the Old Boys figure reflects their average since joining the competition in S34 for comparison.

    Going a step further and observing the trends in retention of said rookies, we can see a breakdown of each club's retention of said rookies with the Retention by club graph observing the drop offs at Season 3 and Season 5 of all rookie crops recruited between S24 & S32. I have also included the same data into Retention by club by % to better represent the drop offs as a percentage of their raw recruitment for contrast.

    Lastly I've compiled the data on Recruits lost to opposition clubs, to highlight how many of the rookies recruited to each club over the time period of s24-S36 have sought greener pastures elsewhere, with the markers of Season 3 & Season 5 for each rookie crop over that time period telling a bit of a tale in each club's ability to retain the rookies they've recruited to the league.

    I've included more stray thoughts masquerading as insights for each of the litany of graphical representations of the stats I have so painstakingly compiled below.


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    • Disregarding the Old Boys who perhaps unfairly have been included for comparison in the first graph, the Demons have recruited the least number of rookies in the league since S24, however have had one of the strongest and most stable lists over that same period. They average just 1.6 rookies per season.
    • The Bombers, Furies and Gumbies have been the heaviest recruiting clubs of the modern era, with the Bombers topping out at 48 rookies since S24. The Furies possibly the surprise there, however oppo skippers will remember a period where the Furies pounced on every new entrant via the new sign ups thread.


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    • Excluding the Old Boys, the league has recruited 2.5 rookies per club on average since S24.
    • For comparison, the Old Boys are averaging 3 rookies per season since entering the league in S34, a touch above league average. We know about the WAGS, however just how many of these are actually relatives, neighbours and work colleagues forced to surrender their email addresses for Bigfooty accounts they don't know exist is anyone's guess.
    • The league average of rookie recruits for each club in total between S24-S36 is 33.4 (excluding the Old Boys)
    • The Bombers lead the league in rookie recruitment quantity in a stat that will shock no one, averaging 3.7 rookies per season between S24-S36.

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    • The Warriors surprisingly have seen the greatest drop off of rookies into their third season with just 35% making it to that marker, yet those that make it through generally establish themselves into their 5th season in the comp with a healthy 30% retention rate, the 4th best retention rate in the Sweet FA.
    • The league average retention rate into season 3 is a healthy 47.5%, yet by their 5th season that figure drops to just 29.1% on average.
    • The Bears have seen the starkest drop off in the league by season 5 for their rookie recruits over the same time period, with just 16.2% of Bears rookies making it through to their 5th season despite the Bears retaining an impressive 48.6% of their rookies into season 3, the 4th best ratio in the comp.
    • The Hawks/Phoenix have been the strongest club in the retention space over this same period, with 58.8% of their rookies making it to season 3, only slightly dipping to 41.2% of their rookie recruits making it through to their 5th season in the comp. The next best being the Dragons with 34.8% of their rookies retained through to season 5.

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    • As far as losing rookies to other clubs is concerned, the Wonders top the charts with 10 rookies finding homes elsewhere between S24-S36, while for contrast the Old Boys are yet to lose a single rookie to another club since their inception in S34, quite possibly because none of them exist apart from Mrs Turbo whose voice I heard on a podcast once.
    • The next best club in this space being the Swampies with just a single rookie forging their path elsewhere over the modern era in their 5th season at the club.
    • The Bears have seen the most rookies seek opportunity elsewhere by season 3 over this period, with no less than 5 rookies finding new homes across the Sweet FA. Perhaps most notably the Gumbies' saviour Barrybran.
    • 4 clubs (Phoenix, Furies, Dees & Wonders) have lost rookies in their debut season. All four clubs are also the only clubs to have lost rookies by each of the Season 1, Season 3 & Season 5 markers.
    • 3 clubs (Warriors, Dragons & Royals) have only lost rookies to oppo clubs in their 3rd seasons.
    • The Old Boys are yet to lose a single rookie recruit to an opposition club (because they don't exist, probably)
    • The league average is 3.9 club swaps by rookies between their debut and 5th seasons in the competition.
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    Oh, and it was remiss of me not to tag the skippers into this one to defend their clubs' honour or lack thereof.

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