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Yeah it feels like the "for a big man" does a bit of work in the description "great at ground level for a ...."
In a big fan though he just needs games
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In a big fan though he just needs games
Or alternatively could he become a winger. We have Holmes on one wing with speed and quick long ball delivery to the f50, and have Neale on the opposite wing running up and down the wing all day and as a dump kick alternative out of the d50.
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He doesn't have the footy nous.
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Jordan Clark might be in the 22 under 22 right now but man I think we may just have won that trade. By a lot
Blicavs didn't really have it when he begun his career either.
No, but he was getting his hands on the footy a lot more than Neale is even from the beginning.
Said this since day dot. All the hype around Jhye as the Sel clone, but this kid cracks in just as hard and never leaves anything out on the field.
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Conway gives me the biggest Damien Bourke deja vu's of all time.
Yeah the blood nut look and all... but even in the gait and the movement ( Conway is better than Bourke) but the run and jump style... the kicking style... i just see a lot in it.
Watched the first 1/2.
Osca, Osca, Osca.
Clohesy as well.
Dempsey - goes without saying at this point.
Conway goes better than expected for 3rd game back - i still reckon come 12 mins unto 3rd 1/4 this week he'll hit the tank wall and get subbed out but thats just fitness.
Foster - like him but FFS find another gear. Ultimate one paced player. Needs to spend the entire offseason doing 30m sprints. Ill even take 20m sprints.
Get a burst outta the blocks for getting on leads but also be better at defending and adding pressure in F50. Its his first season so Im being harsh and theres a lot to like.... but yeah.... a second gear please.
VanderHoooooovel goes good enough for a rookie swing as a KPD for us - I see he got a combine invite - there goes keeping him quiet.
Braden Hamm needs to go. Not a fan for mine.
Id give Flyyn Kroeger and Cooper Whyte another year each.
With Ceglar, Smith and Menegola going.... and maybe 1 more.... they get a reprieve IMO.
What I hope the VFL do is keep Chalcraft, Caprion, Lloyds, Annand, Byrne, Feeley and bring in a few more expereinced types that can front up each week and be slightly more mature bodies.
WE get belted by the bigger types and we just need some more oomph to help keep us in it a bit more. I get the ethos in the VFL is to irror the AFL system and this translateed well but you gotta have the VFL lsited types to support it.. and IMO we need some bigger bodies to help it.
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Yeah the blood nut look and all... but even in the gait and the movement ( Conway is better than Bourke) but the run and jump style... the kicking style... i just see a lot in it.
Watched the first 1/2.
Osca, Osca, Osca.
Clohesy as well.
Dempsey - goes without saying at this point.
Conway goes better than expected for 3rd game back - i still reckon come 12 mins unto 3rd 1/4 this week he'll hit the tank wall and get subbed out but thats just fitness.
Foster - like him but FFS find another gear. Ultimate one paced player. Needs to spend the entire offseason doing 30m sprints. Ill even take 20m sprints.
Get a burst outta the blocks for getting on leads but also be better at defending and adding pressure in F50. Its his first season so Im being harsh and theres a lot to like.... but yeah.... a second gear please.
VanderHoooooovel goes good enough for a rookie swing as a KPD for us - I see he got a combine invite - there goes keeping him quiet.
Braden Hamm needs to go. Not a fan for mine.
Id give Flyyn Kroeger and Cooper Whyte another year each.
With Ceglar, Smith and Menegola going.... and maybe 1 more.... they get a reprieve IMO.
What I hope the VFL do is keep Chalcraft, Caprion, Lloyds, Annand, Byrne, Feeley and bring in a few more expereinced types that can front up each week and be slightly more mature bodies.
WE get belted by the bigger types and we just need some more oomph to help keep us in it a bit more. I get the ethos in the VFL is to irror the AFL system and this translateed well but you gotta have the VFL lsited types to support it.. and IMO we need some bigger bodies to help it.
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BNF results are in
Chalcraft Winner
Capiron 2nd
Ted 3rd
Chalcraft Winner
Capiron 2nd
Ted 3rd
All 3 played most games. Not suprised about Capriron and Ted but a little about Chalcraft….not because he wasn’t pretty consistent throughout they year but because I thought he didn’t have many standout games.
I thought Bailey VDH might have been higher (he got 4th so pretty good) as he held up the defence all year with Capiron.
Knevitt and Dempsey tieing for 5th probably makes sense as they missed around 5-6 games each.
I thought Marcus Hensen might have also had a better result as he was good all year
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Anyone in that group capable of stepping up in your opinion - Knevitt and Dempsey aside?
I have been a fan of Bailey VDH…. He can be a bit “hand over the eyes” decision making but took over 6 marks per game and most of them would have been intercept - and a lot of them contested. I think in a professional environment he could make big strides (despite being 24 already) - certainly to be a really good back up KPD. I would think rookie pick at least
I love Cousins (got injured late) who got best first year…. Not sure he will translate to AFL but just love his attack and speed
The other good VFL players (including Chalcraft Benson Capiron Lucas) are all good vfl players but I think lack AFL weapon…
Of the AFL listed I am a fan of Ted for sure…and I think Willis has AFL characteristics but obvioulsy hard to see if he can be consistent. Maybe Flynn too - but who knows. Phoenix has something but needs to mature (attitude wise) quickly from what I can see. Not sure about the rest.
After typing this…it does suggest we might need to build some more depth IMHO
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Herbert did deserve to be higher and him and byrne (who missed games with injury) were very good.
Jye is doing everything he can to get on a list size holds him back but i wouldnt be against a rookie slot atkins style. I think vdh is a big chance to get picked up by us or someone else.
I've banged this drum a bit this year but with Sav out the door, rookie-ing VDH to maintain KPD depth would be a smart move. Thought he showed plenty in the VFL this year - looked a better defender than Sav.
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Should get first dibs on players from your VFL team imo.
If anyone has the full listing feel free to share
On a votes per game basis for the top 10, I'm most interested in how they rate Hardie.
On a votes per game basis for the top 10, I'm most interested in how they rate Hardie.
| Pos | Name | Votes | Games | Votes Per game |
5 | Mitch Knevitt | 132 | 13 | 10.15 |
9 | Brandan Parfitt | 108 | 11 | 9.82 |
7 | Marcus Herbert | 127 | 13 | 9.77 |
2 | Daniel Capiron | 156 | 16 | 9.75 |
6 | Oliver Dempsey | 132 | 14 | 9.43 |
1 | Jye Chalcraft | 163 | 18 | 9.06 |
4 | Bailey Van de Heuvel | 145 | 17 | 8.53 |
3 | Ted Clohesy | 147 | 18 | 8.17 |
8 | Ben Lloyd | 127 | 16 | 7.94 |
10 | Cooper Whyte | 106 | 16 | 6.63 |
Interesting way of looking at it. That reinforces as to why I would have named Herbert as my winner. But he played 5 less games than Jye so just didn’t really have a look.
‘’I note with Dempsey he had two half games (where he left at half time for afl hold back) so if you did 13 equivalent games would continue to tie with knevitt on per game.
probably makes sense on per game that knev Parf and Dempsey were best for year but not at all suprised that Herbert and Capiron are best vfl listed.
best thing about Ted is that he played all 18 games which in of itself is a great sign year 1
i can’t find full list and would also be interested to know how hardie went on per game…
shout out to mace cousins who I have high hopes for in 24
I still haven’t been able to find the full list of VFL voting…but I did go an have a look at Coaches Votes….now we are missing the last 4 rounds (they hold them back until award night)…
Top 10 for coaches votes - with last 4 rounds not included
Chalcraft. 34. (From 14 games)
Dempsey. 27. (From 8 full games)
Ceglar. 20 (a handful of games. Dominant when played)
Capiron. 16 (12 games)
Parfitt. 12. (8 or 9 games)
Bailey VDH. 10. (13 games)
Knevitt. 8 (9 games)
Herbert. 6 (from a few games)
Cousins. 6. (from handfull of games before knee)
Lloyd. 6
So pretty consistent with VFL award. Not sure whether last 4 rounds will make a difference although some chance Dempsey closes the gaps with Chalcraft over last 4 games.
What it does show is how important a proper ruckman is in the VFL. Have AFL standard one and they get coaches votes for standing out!
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