VoteCompass 2022

[Gough]

A couple of ex-users have told me that the worst thing about marijuana is that it makes you feel okay about doing nothing with your life

Don’t know whether that stacks up on any sort of proven scientific level, but in terms of people I know there was definitely a strong correlation between stopping smoking and generally getting their s**t together

No more or less harmful than booze, gambling or cigarettes on the community and with a deficit looking like it is and both party's committed to stage three tax cuts we have to look for other revenue streams.

 

[Caesar]

No more or less harmful than booze, gambling or cigarettes on the community and with a deficit looking like it is and both party's committed to stage three tax cuts we have to look for other revenue streams.

Given the harm that trifecta do, I’m reluctant to add a fourth legal item to the list

Raising the GST would be a better alternative for increasing tax revenue

 

[Gough]

Given the harm that trifecta do, I’m reluctant to add a fourth legal item to the list

Raising the GST would be a better alternative for increasing tax revenue

We could cancel the tax cuts altogether, offering a tax cut and then raising the GST is just giving with one hand and taking with the other.

 

[Caesar]

We could cancel the tax cuts altogether, offering a tax cut and then raising the GST is just giving with one hand and taking with the other.

I don’t think that’s appropriate, the adjustments to income tax were necessary given the bracket creep and lack of wage growth we’ve seen over the last couple of decades

Consumption taxes are better than income taxes because they are harder to dodge, and the GST is very low by global standards… 15% would be a good start

 

[Carringbush2010]

No prizes for guessing who'll I'll be voting for.

Looks like I'm centre right, must be evil.

Oops maybe I shouldn't have said that, someone might be offended on my behalf.

I might get thread banned for my own protection from myself.

Happy Easter everyone!

 

[Carringbush2010]

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It's a weird compass when it has the Greens looking like communists though

It's interesting, there's a few comments here labelling the Greens as 'commies'.

It maybe my view of 'communism' is, but I doubt the Greens would want to be 'commies' as what some would view as 'commies' - think modern China.

They'd obviously be seriously less authoritarian in their 'communism' or socialism - however one wants to view it.

I like a lot of the Greens policies, very noble in sentiment, I think just about everyone that has a modicum of empathy for all would. It's just that some of those policies are somewhat utopian in thinking i:e unlikely achievable unless the whole world radically changes behaviour both on an individual and societal scale.

View this as pessimistic or realistic as one sees fit I guess.

 

[Gralin]

I don’t think that’s appropriate, the adjustments to income tax were necessary given the bracket creep and lack of wage growth we’ve seen over the last couple of decades

Consumption taxes are better than income taxes because they are harder to dodge, and the GST is very low by global standards… 15% would be a good start

Poor people get ****ed by either tax model
Consumption tax increases hurt poor people especially when they aren't getting a tax cut or wate growth

Its just all round a s**t idea so of course its what will happen

 

[Heisenberg_]

 

[Mindtraveller]

It's interesting, there's a few comments here labelling the Greens as 'commies'.

It maybe my view of 'communism' is, but I doubt the Greens would want to be 'commies' as what some would view as 'commies' - think modern China.

They'd obviously be seriously less authoritarian in their 'communism' or socialism - however one wants to view it.

I like a lot of the Greens policies, very noble in sentiment, I think just about everyone that has a modicum of empathy for all would. It's just that some of those policies are somewhat utopian in thinking i:e unlikely achievable unless the whole world radically changes behaviour both on an individual and societal scale.

View this as pessimistic or realistic as one sees fit I guess.

Someone mentioned before in another thread the horseshoe theory for politics. Indue card is very communist imo

 

[Proper Gander]

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It's a weird compass when it has the Greens looking like communists though

Pretty ******* close to me mate. Only I did it and forgot, or hadn’t worked out, how to save the results.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Someone mentioned before in another thread the horseshoe theory for politics. Indue card is very communist imo

Ah the horseshoe theory, the problem with that theory is that at the end of the day there's always a difference as small as it might be.

As for the indue card, it's a measure that blankets the many to only curtail the few.

 

[HairyO]

maybe the RWNJ have a point when they say SRP heavily leans to the left (judging by the vote compassess)
FWIW mine is smack on top of the ALP one but I think its caused by some wildly inconsistent positions that I hold (I have 55% agree with ALP, 53% with Green and 52% with LNP)

I was in between ALP and LNP but as Ned said some of the questions are far too simple. I also had a progressive answer on most questions but only one or 2 was I conservative so I wonder if the questions are also weighted.

They want lots of people doing it so they make it simple but by making it simple they also make it not really that accurate.

 

[HairyO]

Poor people get f’ed by either tax model
Consumption tax increases hurt poor people especially when they aren't getting a tax cut or wate growth

Its just all round a s**t idea so of course its what will happen

Consumption tax can easily be coupled with rebates for low income earners.

People with kids pay no net tax up to around $60k a year. The 2 big problems are when there are rapidly rising costs and most people are simply beyond hopeless with money.

 

[nut]

It's interesting, there's a few comments here labelling the Greens as 'commies'.

It maybe my view of 'communism' is, but I doubt the Greens would want to be 'commies' as what some would view as 'commies' - think modern China.

They'd obviously be seriously less authoritarian in their 'communism' or socialism - however one wants to view it.

I like a lot of the Greens policies, very noble in sentiment, I think just about everyone that has a modicum of empathy for all would. It's just that some of those policies are somewhat utopian in thinking i:e unlikely achievable unless the whole world radically changes behaviour both on an individual and societal scale.

View this as pessimistic or realistic as one sees fit I guess.

The greens policies are the closet to the Nordic model.

 

[Number37]

It's a weird compass when it has the Greens looking like communists though

Paying a fair share of tax is communism in this country.

 

[Golden_6]

Paying a fair share of tax is communism in this country.

Helping out poor people = Communists
Anything that isn’t far right = Woke Lefties

According to some.

 

[Number37]

Consumption tax can easily be coupled with rebates for low income earners.

People with kids pay no net tax up to around $60k a year. The 2 big problems are when there are rapidly rising costs and most people are simply beyond hopeless with money.

In theory...easy as
In reality...they won't even give Jobseekers a fair rate of Newstart.

 

[HairyO]

In theory...easy as
In reality...they won't even give Jobseekers a fair rate of Newstart.

What is your idea of fair?

The concept is that it isnt meant to be a living wage because they want people moving off it and in to jobs.

Job vacancies are through the roof at the moment and unemployment is at a 40 year low. So its probably not the right time to be complaining.

 

[nut]

What is your idea of fair?

The concept is that it isnt meant to be a living wage because they want people moving off it and in to jobs.

Job vacancies are through the roof at the moment and unemployment is at a 40 year low. So its probably not the right time to be complaining.

But prior to Covid, we’ve had a government use the unemployment level to keep wages down…… keeping the level over 5%. That’s hardly fair on those wanting a job.

 

[Number37]

What is your idea of fair?

The concept is that it isnt meant to be a living wage because they want people moving off it and in to jobs.

Job vacancies are through the roof at the moment and unemployment is at a 40 year low. So its probably not the right time to be complaining.

1 hour a week is not a job.
If unemployment was measured using the old method it would be 25%.
40% of the workforce now work on a casual contract.

When charities are getting overwhelmed by employed people for help putting food on their table then something is not right.

 

[Number37]

Helping out poor people = Communists
Anything that isn’t far right = Woke Lefties

According to some.

Vote for the Greens = communist + woke lefty.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Someone mentioned before in another thread the horseshoe theory for politics. Indue card is very totalitarian imo

Fixed it for you

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I was in between ALP and LNP but as Ned said some of the questions are far too simple. I also had a progressive answer on most questions but only one or 2 was I conservative so I wonder if the questions are also weighted.

They want lots of people doing it so they make it simple but by making it simple they also make it not really that accurate.

I think in previous years they did something like this:

Q: How would you tackle the issue of emissions reductions ?

A) there is nothing humans can do to effect the climate, so we should not sacrifice industry for pointless actions.

B) we should aim for the internationally agreed emission reduction goals, but at a speed appropriate for Australia so as not to overly impact our fossil fuel industries.

C) we should meet our international obligations with the phased transition away from fossil fuels via some support for greater renewables.

D) this is an international emergency, and we need to lead the way via faster transitions away from fossil fuels to renewables, even if it costs some jobs and prices rise.

* I made these up at 7am so it's about speed, not accuracy


As you can see, it's still a sliding scale, but its no longer a yes no, it's about which policy response is closer to your views. And as you can see, including UAP/PHON is important.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

What is your idea of fair?

The concept is that it isnt meant to be a living wage because they want people moving off it and in to jobs.

Job vacancies are through the roof at the moment and unemployment is at a 40 year low. So its probably not the right time to be complaining.

My firm is hiring right now, and we are seeing MASSIVE numbers come to us, and for few it's about pay. Most are after more certainty of hours, and better conditions.

 

[HairyO]

1 hour a week is not a job.
If unemployment was measured using the old method it would be 25%.
40% of the workforce now work on a casual contract.

When charities are getting overwhelmed by employed people for help putting food on their table then something is not right.

What is your number of hours a week?

Is the student who chooses to work 1 day a week unemployed ?