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We play a game that's similar to Port, We can test Adelaide. Hurley out will hurt though. Heppell should be back.
Prediction Who will finish higher - Melbourne, Essendon, Adelaide or Hawthorn
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we're winning too many tight ones
And i cant see us going up to GCS and putting a % booster in.
Crows will finish above us.
Dees and Hawks below.
And i cant see us going up to GCS and putting a % booster in.
Crows will finish above us.
Dees and Hawks below.
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The order is not set in stone as yet, insanely it's still possible for Melbourne to finish above the other 3 teams in this group if things went down the right path. Chance of that happening is almost zero but while Dees are likely to finish last and you and the crows are likely to finish above the Hawks, next week won't decide that for certain
Looking very likely Essendon will finish 8th or higher now. Theoretically a number of teams can still catch them, but with Port the closest and losing 2 of their last 3 at home (assuming no massive last quarter comeback against Lions), it is hard to see Port getting it together from here.
Essendon in 8th has all the hallmarks of another massive first week finals humiliation. Percentage running at 81% against the top 8 so far (compared to say Hawthorn at 95%), and will partly sneak into the 8 off the back of a draw that only has them playing 2 of the current top 8 twice.
Hawthorn (and even Melbourne) can still make it, but seems very unlikely now. We are 2 games behind Essendon in 8th, and 4 of our last 7 games are against the top 8 (and 3 of those are top 4) compared to Essendon (the only team we could have any chance of dislodging) with only two of the top 8 to come.
Essendon in 8th has all the hallmarks of another massive first week finals humiliation. Percentage running at 81% against the top 8 so far (compared to say Hawthorn at 95%), and will partly sneak into the 8 off the back of a draw that only has them playing 2 of the current top 8 twice.
Hawthorn (and even Melbourne) can still make it, but seems very unlikely now. We are 2 games behind Essendon in 8th, and 4 of our last 7 games are against the top 8 (and 3 of those are top 4) compared to Essendon (the only team we could have any chance of dislodging) with only two of the top 8 to come.
At least this year, finishing higher doesnt impact our draft position. It makes Shiel cheaper in fact.
So giving the group a feel for finals footy and the standard required should be good.
My guess is if we slide into 8th, we're gonna end up facing either Richmond or GWS.
Really comes down to how we go against the Crows next week
Yup, both tough assignments. GWS away from the G are a good deal scarier - which is an ongoing concern for them - and Tigers hitting form again. You'd hope to be more competitive this time if you make it. While finals experience is good to have, smashings can do a bit of psychological damage too, and it can be hard to pick whether the sting will help or hurt in the long run. How many in your best 22 haven't actually played a final before? I'd have thought most of them were there last time?
Maybe if Hawthorn had defeated Essendon a couple of weeks back... they would also be in more serious contention for 8th spot or higher.
It had all the hallmarks of a humiliation that game... until some cheap late goals in the last ten minutes made it look respectable.
Hawthorn have the advantage of playing a number of teams at their 'fortress' Launceston. We play the likes of North in our 'home' game yesterday at their home ground as well.
Of those likely to play (Given Smith, Daniher, TBC and Hurley are out)
Shiel, Heppell, Merrett, Fantasia, Ambrose, McGrath, Parish, Hooker, Gleeson, Tippa, Begley, Zaka, McKenna.
Hartley may be back now Hurley is out
Clarke may have played one with Freo. Im not sure.
Brown perhaps in his geelong days? Though good chance he didnt.
So not too many debutants.
D.Clarke, Saad, Redman, Francis, McKernan & Guelfi.
So what you're saying is that it wasn't a humiliation. Thanks for your contribution.
Your only wins against top 8 sides were when they had to come down to Melbourne to play, so I'd avoid pointing out home ground advantages if I was you. You have the least talented list in the top 8 right now, which is why you perform so poorly against the top 8.
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A game where you where 4 points behind us and to have any chance of making finals you had to win and we toyed with you like a cat does to a mouse before he eats it. Yeah humiliation sounds about right. Then again we have a habit of keeping you out of or even putting you out of the finals so maybe par for the course would be a better description.
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LOL. We are still a chance of making finals, and we lost the next two games in row after that. Had we won those two subsequent games, we'd likely also have a slightly better percentage and so probably be taking your spot in the 8, so I don't see how you can claim responsibility for finishing off our finals hopes. If anything, our wayward kicking against Eagles has done that.
I suppose you are referring to LLoyd's last game where he was forced into early retirement in disgrace after his shameful snipe on Sewell?
Once , 10 years ago is not a habit. When something happens once it is not a habit. When it happens 34 times, now that's a habit. In any case, that year also showed what happens when a mediocre team with a dearth of talent scrapes into 8th spot. 16 goal smashing. Probably had Sewell chuckling through his broken jaw.
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Good thread this one.
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I edited the post for you, that's as far as i can goYes, thank you. I’ll settle for a win next week though
I edited the post for you, that's as far as i can go
Geez, been holding onto that 1 hadn’t you
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Timing is everything
I wouldn’t say that, after I posted what I thought was a nice post I got on with my life. We can see that you didn’t
Looking like it'll be the Bombers.
The Hawks and Demons are crap. Adelaide are so inconsistent. Essendon only need 2 or 3 more wins to make finals you'd have to say.
The Hawks and Demons are crap. Adelaide are so inconsistent. Essendon only need 2 or 3 more wins to make finals you'd have to say.
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I thought your post was pedantic but each to their own.
Definitely
Not sure if serious, five grand finals and four premierships in the time you havent won a final. Ill take the humiliation if thats how you describe it
Its pretty telling that Essendon have beaten all 3 of the other teams in this list. Probably why we deserve to be ranked ahead of them and in the top 8.
I still reckon next year Melbourne are a chance to bounce back if they can fix up a few issues. Not sure about Adelaide and Hawks next year, think they may both struggle to make finals but who knows, you can really turn your side around in a preseason with the right recruits and a few young players coming on.
I still reckon next year Melbourne are a chance to bounce back if they can fix up a few issues. Not sure about Adelaide and Hawks next year, think they may both struggle to make finals but who knows, you can really turn your side around in a preseason with the right recruits and a few young players coming on.
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Adelaide are still a chance to finish higher as they have about 6% advantage on us, thanks to playing GC twice but we have them next week, so who knows.
Geelong should put pay to Hawthorn for season 2019 tomorrow, leaving it as a 2 horse race, which it really has been since we put Hawthorn to the sword and Melbourne have just had a shocker of a season.
Geelong should put pay to Hawthorn for season 2019 tomorrow, leaving it as a 2 horse race, which it really has been since we put Hawthorn to the sword and Melbourne have just had a shocker of a season.
Hawthorn show again they perform well against the better sides. Will rue their plentiful losses to teams outside the 8. This keeps the season alive, but with the lions, GWS and Eagles in Perth still to come, its only a matter of time before we drop games. Looks like we've lost one of our best performed players this year to an ACL, but at least we didn't get run over this time due to lack of rotations as happened against Saints and Dogs. No Impey for the rest of the season will make it very tough in the run home. At least Wingard had one of his better games for us today, although failed to hit the scoreboard. Hopefully uses the remaining games to build some confidence at his new club, and hits next year running instead of limping through pre-season like he did this year.
Good win to Bombers pretty much locks them into the 8 now , barring a disaster in the run home.
Adelaide have been disappointing at home this year, usually they can rely on wins in Adelaide to secure a finals berth , but they've now lost half their games at Adelaide oval.
Melbourne games still in progress but looks like another poor performance so far, easily the most disappointing of this bunch, and not even a close race.
Good win to Bombers pretty much locks them into the 8 now , barring a disaster in the run home.
Adelaide have been disappointing at home this year, usually they can rely on wins in Adelaide to secure a finals berth , but they've now lost half their games at Adelaide oval.
Melbourne games still in progress but looks like another poor performance so far, easily the most disappointing of this bunch, and not even a close race.
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