Winning brownlow votes in losing teams

[tommyk72]

Hey does this kind of thing happen. Four games that we won, yet we didn't have two of the best three players on the field. The sign of a great even team? Or something more sinister?

HAW v WB13.17 (95) 11.10 (76)

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Ryan Griffen​

3​

Isaac Smith​

2​

Daniel Giansiracusa​

1​

HAW v WCE19.9 (123) 16.7 (103)

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Josh Kennedy​

3​

Jarryd Roughead​

2​

Luke Shuey​

1​

CARL v HAW13.9 (87) 15.12 (102)

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Luke Hodge​

3​

Bryce Gibbs​

2​

Brock McLean​

1​

AW v NMFC14.15 (99) 13.18 (96)

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Andrew Swallow​

3​

Cyril Rioli​

2​

Daniel Wells​

1​

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Make that 5 games with the round 22 game against north

 

[heh]

It is an individual award.
Not a team one

 

[zenmasterfu]

And this:
NMFC v HAW
15.13 (103) 17.15 (117)
Daniel Wells 3
Todd Goldstein 2
Cyril Rioli 1

Seems winning well with an even team performance is highly damaging to Brownlow chances (or maybe just wearing Brown and Gold).

 

[zenmasterfu]

SYD v HAW
16.4 (100) 17.10 (112)
Shane Mumford 3
Jordan Lewis* 2
Josh Kennedy 1
And lucky last.

 

[tommyk72]

On a separate note, i'm watching the updates on AFL.com.au.

Why was it that the GCFC Vs Giants came was the last for votes to appear? The game was the first scheduled game on the Sunday. Normally that would mean that they would be called third to last.

Smells like someone knew Ablett would get the three to get himself over the line...

 

[Spanish Sahara]

On a separate note, i'm watching the updates on AFL.com.au.

Why was it that the GCFC Vs Giants came was the last for votes to appear? The game was the first scheduled game on the Sunday. Normally that would mean that they would be called third to last.

Smells like someone knew Ablett would get the three to get himself over the line...

No doubt. The three that could win (Swan, Selwood, Ablett) were read out last

 

[SSSSSS]

Who cares. Selwood didn't win it. Geelong havn't got a thing out of this year. Party time

Seriously though Hodgey and Roughy have to stop stealing votes.

 

[SodaPop]

Freo can take the 3,2,1.
We'll just take the cup.

 

[walhawk]

On a separate note, i'm watching the updates on AFL.com.au.

Why was it that the GCFC Vs Giants came was the last for votes to appear? The game was the first scheduled game on the Sunday. Normally that would mean that they would be called third to last.

Smells like someone knew Ablett would get the three to get himself over the line...

Der.

 

[MinerBoy]

I think it's fair to say umpires are idiots.

I mean as if Rough wasn't best on in the last game, and he didn't get 1. Morons.

 

[Badesumofu]

On a separate note, i'm watching the updates on AFL.com.au.

Why was it that the GCFC Vs Giants came was the last for votes to appear? The game was the first scheduled game on the Sunday. Normally that would mean that they would be called third to last.

Smells like someone knew Ablett would get the three to get himself over the line...

Because the only possible reason someone could have for thinking he would get 3 in a game he dominated, and thus end the suspenseful count early is corruption? Is that the implication? Bizare post. They always pick an order for the last round that maximizes the suspense.

 

[Roddy]

Was noticing this right the way through. Have noticed it in previous years too. Yet further proof that the umpies HATE OUT GUTS.

 

[tommyk72]

Because the only possible reason someone could have for thinking he would get 3 in a game he dominated, and thus end the suspenseful count early is corruption? Is that the implication? Bizare post. They always pick an order for the last round that maximizes the suspense.

I'd forgotten they did that each year. When do they pick the order though? Before they start calling, prior to the count, etc? I'm not sure they should do that personally. Stick to a structure - I feel things are overly stage managed already in the afl. I don't like the trend.

 

[MinerBoy]

Teams:-

Swans 95
Freo 90
Cats 89
Hawks 83
Tigers 81

Didn't see Pies.

 

[Bremner20]

Was noticing this right the way through. Have noticed it in previous years too. Yet further proof that the umpies HATE OUT GUTS.

Agree ,doesn't worry me mind you but there does seem to be a bias against us from the umpires ,stuck out like dogs balls the amount of games we won yet failed to take the majority of votes given.

 

[hawkman]

For me it's a positive, it just shows that we are much more even team and don't rely on standout performances

 

[IdiotBox]

Teams:-

Swans 95
Freo 90
Cats 89
Hawks 83
Tigers 81

Didn't see Pies.

Well, they got the top four clubs right but in reverse order! I'm not overly upset at our lack of votes - would much prefer our team just winning consistently.

 

[harrislp]

Sydney get the extra votes as part of the COLA. I think Demetriou mentioned it during the telecast somewhere.

 

[LuvMyHawks]

I am happy that Selwood didn't win! The umpires obviously love him,specially so, because they love watching him ducking his head,so they can give him frees.He is such an actor,then again so do some of the umpires love acting. Is that you Razor?You must be missing that out there..

 

[WaverleyWiz]

Teams:-

Swans 95
Freo 90
Cats 89
Hawks 83
Tigers 81

Didn't see Pies.

I just had to have something on the Swans to get most votes at the ridiculously large odds of $34 and a little saver on Freo at $15.

How can a team with very consistent and even contributions from Hannebery, Jack, O'Keefe, McVeigh and Kennedy (amongst a few others) be such big odds....it was a no brainer.

I also thought all the money for Mitch was unjustified...he was never a chance.

Have something on Dangerfield next season.....I still dream about that bloke playing in a brown and gold jumper someday

 

[nickrebellious]

The one that gets me is Dane Swan 2 votes in Round 3. We won by like 55 points. Swan picked up 30-odd disposals and did absolutley nothing with the pill. Pretty sure Shiels tagged someone and racked up 28 touches, yet no acknowledgement.

Allwell, I'm still caught up on the fact that the umpire awards the votes. Take a Carlton supporter for example, every week they cry at the umpires calling them clueless idiots, but then they gloat about Judd being a brownlow medalist.

 

[Ram-Man]

lol@brownlow.com

Have to agree with Nick -- totally flawed system -- we spend all year yelling at the umpires and their woeful decisions then on the Monday prior to the GF we're supposed to celebrate who they think the best player is ??

 

[MistyAvalon]

all I can say is how the hell did selwood come second...............I mean seriously

 

[Whirling Dervish]

I am happy that Selwood didn't win! The umpires obviously love him,specially so, because they love watching him ducking his head,so they can give him frees.He is such an actor,then again so do some of the umpires love acting. Is that you Razor?You must be missing that out there..

I like to think that the ducking may have cost him a couple of votes during the year and thus a Brownlow. Would be a deserved winner if it weren't for the playing for frees.