Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[SaintsSeptember]

It's based on a preprint of a study by the University of Oxford. The AstraZeneca vaccine was developed by the University of Oxford so there could be conflicts of interests.

There's some reservations expressed about the study in the article you posted. You would hope ATAGI are across all this.

Dr Daryl Cheng, Medical Lead of the Melbourne Vaccine Education Centre, also noted some ‘methodological and applicability challenges’ associated with trying to compare the study’s data between COVID-19 disease and COVID-19 vaccines.​

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‘Firstly, the data sources were from different populations and countries and are not directly comparable. They were not matched for age or other confounding factors,’ he said.​

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‘Secondly, it is unclear what the background rates of CVT are in each of these populations. This means that it is not clear whether the reported higher rate of clots represents a true increase above an expected baseline rate of CVT or PVT in those specific populations.​

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‘Furthermore, comparing isolated CVT/PVT with thrombocytopaenia syndrome [TTS], the syndrome of interest following COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine, means we actually may be comparing two separate entities and drawing conclusions that are not entirely accurate.​

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‘There is not enough clarity within the existing study data to indicate whether there were other clinical signs and laboratory signals, like low platelets, to indicate that there was a TTS-like syndrome after COVID-19 disease.’​

i won't dispute any of that, but blood clotting while having Covid19 has been a general subject for a while now.

Coronavirus and Blood Clots: Risks, Complications, Prevention

One of the possible side effects of COVID-19 is that it can lead to blood clots in some people. This side effect can occur across all age groups and in people with no underlying conditions.

www.healthline.com

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So i'm inclined to believe there is a fair element of truth , that the risks of developing blood clots with Covid19 could be significantly greater than those from AZ or any other vaccination.

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Recent data from the Netherlands and France suggest that of the patients with coronavirus who are admitted to intensive care units (ICU), 30-70% develop blood clots in the deep veins of the legs, or in the lungs.

 

[Snake_Baker]

An opportunity popped up out of the blue and I had the AZ vaccine.

Had mid level flu like symptoms the next day and now they have cleared up.

No extra limbs or anything yet. I'll keep readers posted.

 

[Snake_Baker]

So i'm inclined to believe there is a fair element of truth , that the risks of developing blood clots with Covid19 could be significantly greater than those from AZ or any other vaccination.

4-6 in 1,000,000 and my guess is that it's related to a very rare PEG allergy.

 

[Brad Goodman]

An opportunity popped up out of the blue and I had the AZ vaccine.

Had mid level flu like symptoms the next day and now they have cleared up.

Now extra limbs or anything yet. I'll keep readers posted.

A fourth leg would be handy

 

[yebiga]

Considering the Spanish flu is still kicking around. Probably forever. No guarantees it's a war well win either. Although, bacteria could just as easily get us.

I feel like I really should respond - but I have nothing to say.

 

[Roby]

AZ is a two jab vaccine. The J&J one is the only one jab.

This was already mentioned by me. Go to sleep.

 

[FireKrakouer]

What are our thoughts here on the lab leak hypothesis?

Covid origin: Why the Wuhan lab-leak theory is so disputed

The claim Covid-19 leaked from a Chinese laboratory dates from early in the pandemic. Here's what we know.

www.bbc.com

 

[adogsfan5]

What are our thoughts here on the lab leak hypothesis?

Covid origin: Why the Wuhan lab-leak theory is so disputed

The claim Covid-19 leaked from a Chinese laboratory dates from early in the pandemic. Here's what we know.

www.bbc.com

I’d say most are extremely confident in this story. Only question is - was it an accident or on purpose?

 

[swingdog]

Is there actually new evidence?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Is there actually new evidence?

What do you mean by "new"?

 

[sdfc]

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the local institute of virology was researching coronaviruses.

 

[Evolved1]

Half a dozen places in my zip code where you can register for Pfizer or Moderna vaccinations, from pharmacies to hospitals. Those age 12-18 get Pfizer, those 18+ get Moderna. All you need is proof of age. Visa status irrelevant. Not all places have both doses, but there's a govt website where you answer a few questions and they direct you to your options. I could schedule an appointment at a pharamcy tomorrow if I wanted, or wait 5 days for the hosptial.

Hopefully Pfizer vaccine approval for 12-15yr olds follows soon in Australia.

 

[eddiesmith]

What are our thoughts here on the lab leak hypothesis?

Covid origin: Why the Wuhan lab-leak theory is so disputed

The claim Covid-19 leaked from a Chinese laboratory dates from early in the pandemic. Here's what we know.

www.bbc.com

It’s funny that the same ‘experts’ who 12 months ago were rubbishing any claims that it was from the lab and not the market have suddenly changed their tune...

 

[adogsfan5]

So when can we officially blame China?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

It’s funny that the same ‘experts’ who 12 months ago were rubbishing any claims that it was from the lab and not the market have suddenly changed their tune...

read the articles, its Garry Lyon splinters time

they dont say it came from the lab, they just say they cant rule it out

the reporting on this issue (and its a bloody important issue) is farcical IMO

if this s**t got out from a lab, its a major issue for every country that engineers viruses. the list of who does that is pretty long, because the reality is few nations have actually signed off on banning biological weapons

personal view - i hate these things, but its been a military tactic since you could catapult infected bodies into a castle

 

[Total Power]

An opportunity popped up out of the blue and I had the AZ vaccine.

Had mid level flu like symptoms the next day and now they have cleared up.

No extra limbs or anything yet. I'll keep readers posted.

Interesting, any reason why you opted for AZ and not the other options?

 

[Monkey King]

So when can we officially blame China?

I guess when there's some evidence.

 

[MrKK]

What are our thoughts here on the lab leak hypothesis?

Covid origin: Why the Wuhan lab-leak theory is so disputed

The claim Covid-19 leaked from a Chinese laboratory dates from early in the pandemic. Here's what we know.

www.bbc.com

Always been my suspicion, but I also think it was an accidental leak.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Interesting, any reason why you opted for AZ and not the other options?

1) Because it was free.
2) Because it was there.

 

[Total Power]

1) Because it was free.
2) Because it was there.

The other options wasn't free or weren't available?

 

[Snake_Baker]

The other options wasn't free or weren't available?

They weren't there, and I understand the tremendous rigor that's involved in getting any vaccine to market, so I have complete confidence in using them.

 

[SJ17]

They weren't there, and I understand the tremendous rigor that's involved in getting any vaccine to market, so I have complete confidence in using them.

Are you confident that it works?

 

[Crankyhawk]

On this board, dole bludgers good, disability pensioners bad!!!

Tbh many dole bludgers as you put it are people with genuine difficulty in working due to mental or physical impairment but the feds make getting disability pension extremely hard

 

[Crankyhawk]

Honesty guys

'Cruel' budget cut at busy Perth hospital sparks dire warning from senior doctors

Senior doctors at St John of God Midland Public Hospital raise the alarm over a pending cut to their budget expected to top $10 million, saying the situation is already "horrifying".

www.abc.net.au

What do the pro lockdown people think about this? In the middle of this health crisis. Mark McGowan is slashing healthcare funding and actually sacking nursing staff.

Do you expect us to respect the principles of your "look after one another" message, when the politicians dont themselves?

That hospital delivers inefficient expensive care. Their budget is being brought back to the average, perhaps the more politically palatable would be freezing funding but you can bet there would have been pissed off other health services seeing this private one being paid more for the same work

 

[Snake_Baker]

Are you confident that it works?

Yes. It would not have gotten to market if this did not have significant evidence behind it.