List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Trade FA Megathread

[MightySaint]

I guess if we get Jaksch that Tom Lee trade doesn't look bad.

That would be hilarious. Pick 1 for Pick 3, Jaksch, O'Rourke, Lee, Wright

 

[bird_man]

Look at it this way.

Petracca vs JOR + Jaksch + McCartin/Wright

?

That's exactly the way I was looking at it. It's a win for us, it would have to be to trade pick one. But JOR and Jaksch look likely to leave and GWS could possibly miss out on Petracca and Brayshaw the way the draft is, and then be left to pick up another key forward which they do not need. I'd want something better then just pick 3 or 4 and Jaksch.

 

[TheLastEmperor]

i just dont rate JOR at all, right now i wouldnt give up anything inside the 3rd round for him. Jaksch is an early 20s, maybe late teens pick trade.

Pick 1 for 3, 20, 57+. maybe i rate pick 1 too highly or our ability to claw something nice out but i thought we could do better than that

just my opinion happy to be wrong/alone on this

IMO both are worth around pick 20 (15-25 range).

1 for 3, 20 and 20. A touch overs but if they really want Petracca they'll do it.

 

[sammm]

Pick 1 for O'Rourke, Jaksch and pick 3 is the word according to Thunda.

why in the hell would GWS do that? too much to give up just for pick 3.

 

[12Chill]

Jono O'Rourke back in his draft year:

 

[TheLastEmperor]

Well at least discussion has really picked up!

 

[God Save Max King]

one of durdin,wright,mccartin. i wouldnt be too upset with that. all three have just as much concern/risk

Durdin has the biggest bust potential of any of those 3.

 

[12Chill]

why in the hell would GWS do that? too much to give up just for pick 3.

It's for pick 1, and it's because they rate Petracca super highly (as they should). If they want him enough then they'll pay overs.

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

Well at least discussion has really picked up!

Is it time to pull out photoshop?

 

[Defacto]

I'm not sold that either Bruce will hold that position down long term and Spence is still a less than 50/50 chance of turning into an All-Australian quality forward. Jaksch seems to be better as a defender. The only negative would be "St Kilda trade Pick 1 for Jaksch, picks" would be turned into "St Kilda trade Pick 1 for Jaksch" over time.

i dont think the only concern is bruce. we have to remember delaney is still 26 next year. so if we look at that 2018 date, he'll be 29. as you pointed out bruce is the only other option then. so we need to fill up on some KPDs

Jaksch would give us another option, by then he'd be...what is...23-25? prime age

 

[Mowman]

How was Jaksch rated before he was drafted ?

 

[L_W_P]

Pick 1 for O'Rourke, Jaksch and pick 3 is the word according to Thunda.

"Grandad, tell us again. Pleeeeease."

Well kids, the 'Saints 6 Flag' dynasty, it *wipes tear away* it all started with a bird. A pelican in fact. A pelican who could perform powerful list magic-ment the AFL had never seen before.

He turned 3 years of first round picks, a 30 year old back flanker and a 6 foot 8 CHB, who people thought was a ruckman, into 14 premiership players. That's right. Fourteen!

All of Lee, Wright and Murdoch. Hickey, White and Saunders. Dunstan. Acres. Delaney. Savage... Billy Longer too. Patty McCartin, Jon ORourke and Krissy Jaksch was his masterpiece though.

We had pick 1 that year and wouldve taken Plugger McCartin anyway. But the GWS Giants came along and gave us Jono, Krissy and pick 3 for that number 1. As luck would have it we still got Plugger anyway and the rest was history.

Now which year do you wanna watch? 2018? 2020? How about I fill the shell pool with popcorn and we put on the 4 peat of '22-'25 with Plugger breaking Fred Fannings record against the Dogs??

"That's when Luke Dunstan won his 3rd Norm Smith yeah?"

Thats right Billy! He won it in the big win against Port in 2018 and again when we best the Suns in 2020. His third came in 2025 when we smashed the Dogs for the second GF in a row.

And it all started with a Pelican...

 

[_Maximus_12]

Just curiously, if we did manage to trade Pick 1 for JOR, Jaksch and Pick 3, would this trade be seen as getting 3 picks inside the top 20, given JOR was Pick 3 and Jaksch was Pick 12 (or 13) or do we think Pelch will try land another couple of first round picks?

 

[Defacto]

what would people prefer pick 20 or JOR?

 

[TheLastEmperor]

Is it time to pull out photoshop?

You know you want to....

 

[TheLastEmperor]

what would people prefer pick 20 or JOR?

If his hammies hold up I'd take JOR with 2 years development under his belt. Leave it up to the medico's.

 

[bird_man]

what would people prefer pick 20 or JOR?

Pick 20 in this draft I reckon. But if it were JOR and Jaksch I would go for that.

 

[12Chill]

How was Jaksch rated before he was drafted ?

Kristian Jaksch back in his draft year;


Looks like an excellent mark of the footy.

 

[Periphery]

what would people prefer pick 20 or JOR?

I'm willing to back the club here. JOR was rated highly for a reason and they will know him a hell of a lot better than us.

 

[dewah07]

Jaksch vs Bruce

What's the difference

And whiley vs JOR

 

[FlyingSledghamer]

I dont get it. I thought Jaksch was out of contract. Doesnt that mean he has no value whatsoever considering we have the first pick in the psd?

 

[Defacto]

I dont get it. I thought Jaksch was out of contract. Doesnt that mean he has no value whatsoever considering we have the first pick in the psd?

great point!!! probably not "no value" but he would have his price reduced, if we get his agreement that he wants to come to us

 

[God Save Max King]

what would people prefer pick 20 or JOR?

Pick 20 in a draft is unknown, while JOR is a previous top 10 talent who the club obviously rates. Also, for your dislike of Wright, how many big men do you find with an elite kick, marking ability, endurance, tap work, speed for height and length? Not too many. I wouldn't be too disappointed with him at 4.

I dont get it. I thought Jaksch was out of contract. Doesnt that mean he has no value whatsoever considering we have the first pick in the psd?

Considering Carlton are extremely keen, he has value.

 

[bird_man]

I dont get it. I thought Jaksch was out of contract. Doesnt that mean he has no value whatsoever considering we have the first pick in the psd?

All the more reason that the deal would have to include something else IMO

 

[stkildathunda]

Just had quick look and since 2011 St Kilda has turned over 36 players on their list. Only 12 players remain that were drafted before 2011 trade/draft period!

Now thats what you call a list cull....