What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? (Part 1 - cont in Part 2)

[Moody Blue]

And we beat the premiers by 10 goals and we're the only side they didn't beat so the loss to your disaster of a side can basically go and dine on a used tampon. Ultimately had literally no impact on the season.

I will happily take one of the only 5 current premiership coaches, particularly one with a higher win percentage than any other.

Make sure you sign him up.....long term before some other club grabs him!

 

[PhatBoy]

Make sure you sign him up.....long term before some other club grabs him!

I guess if we don't, we can always just chase malthouse.

 

[Hellgood]

Tom Boyd was outstanding on grand final day.

His deal, at least thus far, remains a stinker.

(ducks head)

Pretty strongly disagree. What price a 62 premiership drought?

And it's pretty arguable the certainty / peace of mind of having a blue chip full forward in your squad for the next decade is worth overpaying for. So many clubs get to the premiership contention stage, but then are forced to scramble around to find that missing piece of the puzzle. It's a lot of money and a long committment, but I think the deal is looking pretty rosy for the Dogs.

 

[Russian Demon]

Pretty strongly disagree. What price a 62 premiership drought?

And it's pretty arguable the certainty / peace of mind of having a blue chip full forward in your squad for the next decade is worth overpaying for. So many clubs get to the premiership contention stage, but then are forced to scramble around to find that missing piece of the puzzle. It's a lot of money and a long committment, but I think the deal is looking pretty rosy for the Dogs.

I think the deal is now only just looking like it wasn't a complete howler, not that its actively good. Having one bloke on such huge money in a team of elite talents (who have actually delivered 20 something rounds of good footy) is bound to undercut the united culture at some point. Might not while the going is good, but when they hit speed bumps, it'll come back to the front of players' minds

 

[A Swallow]

And we beat the premiers by 10 goals and we're the only side they didn't beat so the loss to your disaster of a side can basically go and dine on a used tampon. Ultimately had literally no impact on the season.

I will happily take one of the only 5 current premiership coaches, particularly one with a higher win percentage than any other.

Claiming you're the only side the premiers didn't beat is something Richmond fans have done the past few years. So well done.

 

[Wargreymon90]

People who dislike bob murphy are hating for the sake of hating.

He's a genuinely good guy in football.

 

[Bardo State]

People who dislike bob murphy are hating for the sake of hating.

He's a genuinely good guy in football.

Gotta be mad at something

 

[adammania9]

I don't know if I've ever seen a player criticised for everything he does as much as Tom Hawkins. You would think he's the worst player on the field by the way opposition supporters and journalists treat him, yet He finished 7th in the Coleman medal tally with 52 goals, fairly cose to double Geelong's next best and with more goals than 13 clubs' leading goal kickers. He also finished #3rd in contested marks, only behind Lynch and Lobb and #2 for marks inside 50, only behind Kennedy.

 

[PhatBoy]

Claiming you're the only side the premiers didn't beat is something Richmond fans have done the past few years. So well done.

Marginally more impressive when you a) finish second on the table and b) win a final

 

[PhatBoy]

I don't know if I've ever seen a player criticised for everything he does as much as Tom Hawkins. You would think he's the worst player on the field by the way opposition supporters and journalists treat him, yet He finished 7th in the Coleman medal tally with 52 goals, fairly cose to double Geelong's next best and with more goals than 13 clubs' leading goal kickers. He also finished #3rd in contested marks, only behind Lynch and Lobb and #2 for marks inside 50, only behind Kennedy.

This. He has 400 goals (or a few off it anyway) for his career and he's recently turned 28.

5 more 50 goal seasons (and there's nothing to say he won't average more) and he's basically matched or surpassed the 3 major key forwards, Buddy aside, of the last decade in Pavlich, Riewoldt and Brown.

It's as though his 2007-2010 seasons, when he was still basically a teenager and about 15kg lighter than he is now, are perpetually held against him even though he's been consistently elite or close to it ever since.

Had he been as good as he has been for the last 5 years back when we were smashing everyone, he'd already have 500+ (I realize you could say that about many, many players).

I don't think he's a perfect player but I wouldn't swap him for anyone.

 

[Gunplay]

Bob Murphy is a spud and the dogs wouldn't have won the premiership with him in the side.

 

[Sicboy]

Make sure you sign him up.....long term before some other club grabs him!

Just like Liam Jones.

 

[A Swallow]

This. He has 400 goals (or a few off it anyway) for his career and he's recently turned 28.

5 more 50 goal seasons (and there's nothing to say he won't average more) and he's basically matched or surpassed the 3 major key forwards, Buddy aside, of the last decade in Pavlich, Riewoldt and Brown.

It's as though his 2007-2010 seasons, when he was still basically a teenager and about 15kg lighter than he is now, are perpetually held against him even though he's been consistently elite or close to it ever since.

Had he been as good as he has been for the last 5 years back when we were smashing everyone, he'd already have 500+ (I realize you could say that about many, many players).

I don't think he's a perfect player but I wouldn't swap him for anyone.

I agree he cops more flak than he probably should, as he's been solid or better for a fair while now, but you wouldn't swap him for ANYONE? Not Lynch, Kennedy, Cameron, Franklin? Massive call.

 

[A Swallow]

Marginally more impressive when you a) finish second on the table and b) win a final

I agree. Geelong this year are much better than Richmond of the past few, but I still think the "only team the premiers didn't beat" claim is rubbish. At the end of the day, the Swans mauled Geelong in the prelim - so you had no claim to be there on the last day of the year to beat the Dogs when it really mattered.

 

[Maddhew]

(Even though I am fully aware it is through no fault of his own, rather a relentlessly thirsty media who will flog the absolute shit out of a story until people cant take any more)

Bob Murphy is starting to annoy me.

 

[PhatBoy]

I agree he cops more flak than he probably should, as he's been solid or better for a fair while now, but you wouldn't swap him for ANYONE? Not Lynch, Kennedy, Cameron, Franklin? Massive call.

Franklin would be the obvious one - he's a different sort of forward and the best since the likes of GAS, Lockett, Dunstall, Carey etc. but when you factor in that for his first 4 seasons Hawkins was used as a back up ruckman as often as not, his record stacks up favorably with Kennedy and while Cameron and Lynch will probably finish their careers as superstars (if they're not already) there is no guarantee that neither will drop off.

Also, as most cats fans will point our readily, Hawkins' role (much like Carey in a less impressive way) hasn't been purely about kicking goals as it has been about being the guy the forward line is built around, bringing the ball down, attracting extra defenders etc.

 

[PhatBoy]

I agree. Geelong this year are much better than Richmond of the past few, but I still think the "only team the premiers didn't beat" claim is rubbish. At the end of the day, the Swans mauled Geelong in the prelim - so you had no claim to be there on the last day of the year to beat the Dogs when it really mattered.

I never said we did - clearly we didn't. I just pointed out that our loss to Carlton, which ultimately meant nothing in the scheme of the season, was somewhat mitigated by other results which proved it was an anomaly.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

(Even though I am fully aware it is through no fault of his own, rather a relentlessly thirsty media who will flog the absolute shit out of a story until people cant take any more)

Bob Murphy is starting to annoy me.

He's copping the Rioli treatment

 

[BattlerGM]

Pretty strongly disagree. What price a 62 premiership drought?

And it's pretty arguable the certainty / peace of mind of having a blue chip full forward in your squad for the next decade is worth overpaying for. So many clubs get to the premiership contention stage, but then are forced to scramble around to find that missing piece of the puzzle. It's a lot of money and a long committment, but I think the deal is looking pretty rosy for the Dogs.

Respectfully disagree with pretty much all of that.

Boyd alone didn't end their premiership drought. I understand he played as a ruckman at times but he kicked 13 goals this year from 15 games. Credit for his finals series, but by and large his contribution to their flag tilt (keeping in mind that a flag tilt starts in round one) was meagre.

He's not a blue-chip forward.

The 'missing piece of the puzzle' is not really a factor in his pay packet, and it's doubtful that he is it.

That deal isn't rosy at all. Gotta weigh up what he's earned thus far against his overall output.

For the coin he's on (850k a year?) he'd want to play roughly as good as he did on grand final day every third week or so.

All that makes me sound like a huge hater - Good on him and the WB for their victory. I just think he's overpaid by a fair bit despite a great gf, is all

 

[flamingEMBERS]

People who dislike bob murphy are hating for the sake of hating.

He's a genuinely good guy in football.

He might have been, but having AFL360 and FoxFooty telling you he's the best bloke in football by a country mile gets really annoying. Every single ****ing time the bulldogs get a mention it's "Bob Murphy geeeeee isn't he a ripper" then it leads into a montage of Bob Murphy saying some inspiring quotes in a really slow and kind of emotionally vague way and showing images of him running and bouncing before showing him on the ground holding his knee, saying something like "this wont define me". He somewhat plays up to it.

Maybe speak about other teams for once in a while than Bob Murphy every week.

 

[DemonTim]

He might have been, but having AFL360 and FoxFooty telling you he's the best bloke in football by a country mile gets really annoying. Every single ******* time the bulldogs get a mention it's "Bob Murphy geeeeee isn't he a ripper" then it leads into a montage of Bob Murphy saying some inspiring quotes in a really slow and kind of emotionally vague way and showing images of him running and bouncing before showing him on the ground holding his knee, saying something like "this wont define me". He somewhat plays up to it.

Maybe speak about other teams for once in a while than Bob Murphy every week.

I watch a lot of football, and never once saw anything resembling this.

This kids, is what we call confirmation bias

 

[Quivorir]

Have you watched him on 360? I don't know if he was on this year, but his whole rascal of week and bob dick suck segment was horrible.

 

[FastLife]

Jason Dunstall is by far the best Presenter/Commentator in the football media

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

Jason Dunstall is by far the best Presenter/Commentator in the football media

I really appreciate his walk-offs.

 

[Wooffa]

Respectfully disagree with pretty much all of that.

Boyd alone didn't end their premiership drought. I understand he played as a ruckman at times but he kicked 13 goals this year from 15 games. Credit for his finals series, but by and large his contribution to their flag tilt (keeping in mind that a flag tilt starts in round one) was meagre.

He's not a blue-chip forward.

The 'missing piece of the puzzle' is not really a factor in his pay packet, and it's doubtful that he is it.

That deal isn't rosy at all. Gotta weigh up what he's earned thus far against his overall output.

For the coin he's on (850k a year?) he'd want to play roughly as good as he did on grand final day every third week or so.

All that makes me sound like a huge hater - Good on him and the WB for their victory. I just think he's overpaid by a fair bit despite a great gf, is all

What a high quality post. Absolutely pathetic comments.