Rumour GFC 2017 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists.

[Johnny Cattery]

The first year players are heavily managed . Only mature bodied recruits play VFL week on week (and even they are rested occasionally).

The smaller kids get 4 or 5 games off a year even if they are fit. If injured the return time seems to be - get fit then plus 2 weeks.

Like managing a 2YO racehorse.

Yep, agree you can see that with the VFL selections. But I think sometimes they get a bit seduced by the top-end talent - not least Cockatoo this year? Although clearly the hammies are hard to control.

Thought: Maybe that's why Harry had it in his sock - spare part?

 

[Nickoo]

Actually had an interesting chat with a medico-type person about this in relation to rugby league. His words: "if you and I went out there, we'd get killed." His view was that it's a whole collection of things that make elite athletes in contact sports able to absorb physical impact that most couldn't.

Among these are the body habituating to hits of slowly greater impact as players move up through the age brackets; the increasing emphasis on strength training that goes with higher levels of footy (I'm assuming this is true also for Australian rules); the far better reflex times of elite players that allow them to respond more quickly - along with elite anticipation of when hits will come (so there is muscle preparation). Which in part explains why players can absorb incredible hits they see coming, then get flattened by something they don't.

(ON which, watched the Sloane-Danger collision a few times this morning. Sloane goes for Danger, while Danger goes for the ball. He knows it's coming but he thinks they'll be shoulder to shoulder. I don't think he 'stayed down'. You could argue, he was put down.)

If you compare something as simple as weights and heights, a 'big' player at local footy is significantly smaller than a 'big' guy at AFL level, with the state league players somewhere in between. So at the highest level, AFL they are being hit harder, hit faster, and hit more often. And management has its limits. Scott claimed that players like Zac Guthrie were being 'protected' in terms of the role they are being asked to play, but when the game moves so quickly it's not feasible to think that under-size players can just be tasked with avoiding contact. Motlop being taken out by Hawkins early in his career set him back, a lot.

And in fact I didn't necessarily mean playing VFL when I said first-year players probably shouldn't play a full season in their first year. I had in mind that they should be given regular rests, say every four to six weeks - with the bye, that would mean playing 20 games instead of 22. I think it would be better for them longer term. It's true the club would be monitoring their recovery closely but we know that they ask players to red-line far more often than they admit.

This year we were a hell of a lot better at giving younger players games than we have been since 2011, and that's positive. Apart from motivating them and giving them confidence (as well as a reality check about what they need to do to get better), the club would be making more informed decisions about who it wanted to keep. (I wouldn't be amazed to see a couple of those who did play being de-listed or not renewed - I take it that being played doesn't just mean you're being rewarded, it means you're being tested).

Hopefully the new practice of giving more players a run in the ones earlier in their careers means more effective decision-making than we have seen. Keeping a player like Hamling for three years, not playing him, then effectively telling him to piss off by only offering him a rookie position was a stuff-up, especially when we had injuries to key backs in his third year. But I need to get over it.

Hamling is overstated on this board IMHO.


Go Cats!!!!!

 

[CatTricks]

I actually heard him on the radio not long after this all started saying that there were two people that had had an enormous impact on him; Scarlo and Moons. So I suspect this is from when Scarlo was at the dogs but was Moons there as well and as what that he could have an impact such that he comments that these two people are very important and still so.


Go Cats!!!!!

Both Scarlo and Moons were part time coaches at the Kennel.

 

[Cattergirl]

Brian Waldron says Geelong have gone cold on Stringer

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Brian Waldron says Geelong have gone cold on Stringer

Means he is probably coming to Geelong then

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Brian Waldron says Geelong have gone cold on Stringer

He couldn't even cheat properly. He's never right.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Been reported in the Hun that stringer has meet up Richmond

Best to check all his options I guess, how the tigers can afford him I have no idea

Hopefully he is meeting a number of clubs to gain some intel to bring to the cats

 

[DangerHere]

Brian Waldron says Geelong have gone cold on Stringer

Seriously some of these guys have Zero intel into our club , so to seem relevant / knowledgable in the industry they just make shit up.

Let's see what actually happens.

It would be great if some of these so called "experts" were held accountable for their drivel after the fact.

 

[Jeff76]

Can see the Scablett deal going thru, Smith a maybe 50/50 but highly doubt we get Stringer, hes going to the Bombers. All these rumors are probably piss and wind like usual. My money is on someone completely out of the blue that has not once been mentioned.

 

[Warhorse]

I dont like the scattergun approach. We are starting to look like norf chasing everyone. Put an offer in front of smith, take it or leave it and give him 3 days to respond. Then move on. I feel some of these players are taking us for a ride and shopping around for more $$$. Dont want to many mercenaries at geelong.

 

[Strange Cat]

Let Stringer go to ESS, would rather Smith anyway

Last thing we need is another player with attitude issues

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Let Stringer go to ESS, would rather Smith anyway

Last thing we need is another player with attitude issues

Plenty of our Greatest ever players had attitude issues, hell half of our 2007 Premiership team did.
It's how you manage and correct those issues and how the player responds.
My mail is Stringer is still keen on the Cats and the Cats are still keen on him.

 

[manboob]

I dont like the scattergun approach. We are starting to look like norf chasing everyone. Put an offer in front of smith, take it or leave it and give him 3 days to respond. Then move on. I feel some of these players are taking us for a ride and shopping around for more $$$. Dont want to many mercenaries at geelong.

I'd say it's the other way around peeps approaching us.

 

[Down at K Park]

I dont like the scattergun approach. We are starting to look like norf chasing everyone. Put an offer in front of smith, take it or leave it and give him 3 days to respond. Then move on. I feel some of these players are taking us for a ride and shopping around for more $$$. Dont want to many mercenaries at geelong.

It not so much we are going after a heap of players, its just journos who know nothing linking us to any player who wants to change clubs. Its like as soon as a whisper of a player wanting to leave a club is heard we are instantly linked to them.

 

[hbk_aus]

I'd say it's the other way around peeps approaching us.

And hardly scattergun - Stringer is exactly the type of player we need IMO. Smith would be a good get at the right price. As for Ablett, like many others he would be a luxury which should only be afforded at a very low cost.

 

[Sticksman]

It not so much we are going after a heap of players, its just journos who know nothing linking us to any player who wants to change clubs. Its like as soon as a whisper of a player wanting to leave a club is heard we are instantly linked to them.

In addition it generates revenue by click baiting fake news. People need to get a grip.

 

[God Mode]

In the AFL wash up all three panelists indicated Cats on the slide next year between 8-5 and definitely no top 4 for the foreseeable future. Must go back to draft and start again.

We were lucky to finish top 2 this year, but I'd say with clever recruiting and a healthier list we might actually improve but the commentariat have been pretty close to the mark so far with their pick for Adel but they all had Syd in it so flop there.


Go Cats!!!!!

If they had any idea they'd say we have a good chance at top 4 since we perform well in the home and away games. Its performance in finals thats the query and even if we finished on top would remain a query.

 

[Willo_]

Waldron knows less than nothing.. we are Huge on Stringer.

Smith is not coming our way though, he may have been at one point but he will end up at Carlton

 

[thegerman]

Waldron knows less than nothing.. we are Huge on Stringer.

Smith is not coming our way though, he may have been at one point but he will end up at Carlton

Where he will rot and die with very little action in September other than the club organised trip to Bali

 

[GeelongFTW]

Waldron knows less than nothing.. we are Huge on Stringer.

Smith is not coming our way though, he may have been at one point but he will end up at Carlton

if is this means motlop stays then ill be happy.

 

[DangerHere]

if is this means motlop stays then ill be happy.

I'd like Motlop to stay, injury free, and motivated next year.

My father in law plays some golf with him and says he was really hampered with injury this year, he also says he's a top bloke.

 

[Willo_]

if is this means motlop stays then ill be happy.

My info is that Mots has informed the club he is off to Port.

Menz a fair chance to stay now though

 

[Mahlepi]

So the media have it as follows:
duncan, Cockatoo to gold coast
Motlop to Port
Lang to 4 clubs
stanley to the dogs
etc etc
for ablett, as stringer doesnt like us, and smith is going to the blues

I implore all the negative knobs who blast geelong supporters who post early and well to take the same approach with some of the media this week

Seriously we are looking like we have no idea

 

[CatRiot]

Waldron knows less than nothing.. we are Huge on Stringer.

Smith is not coming our way though, he may have been at one point but he will end up at Carlton

Carlton will have to manufacture trades before they can trade him in, as they need a Pick in the 15-25 range which they don't have. That means the Smith trade may get delayed until the end of the trade period.

GWS wants draft picks, not players, that's their strategy this off-season. Probably because GWS would be near their Cap.

 

[bigblackboz]

So the media have it as follows:
duncan, Cockatoo to gold coast
Motlop to Port
Lang to 4 clubs
stanley to the dogs
etc etc
for ablett, as stringer doesnt like us, and smith is going to the blues

I implore all the negative knobs who blast geelong supporters who post early and well to take the same approach with some of the media this week

Seriously we are looking like we have no idea

The media are self serving at best. Even if a deal is done, it can't be done at least until the 10 October - Day 2 of trade period. Every day till then the media will come up with heaps of rumours, untruths and stories in order to sell papers over something which is probably already done.