Mega Thread 2018 Trade Period Discussion part 2! (cont. in Part 3 - link in OP)

[Eagleboy2011]

Mayes is depth, but Burton is a good get.

Pick #8 2012 National Draft 101 games. I think we may have even made a play for him a few years back.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I wonder if 6 is gettable for 8 and 21. It gets us one of rankine rozee luko or smith. Assuming king goes at 4 that is.

Brisbane won't care that much as its just going to freo. It seems the only clubs willing to trade top 7 picks are those that aren't going to use them.

Once that pick gets to GC, I reckon it could be. According to a poster a few pages back, GC are keen on Caldwell, and you’d think he’d still be available at 8.

IMO it’d be worth it to get one of those four.

 

[happy_knackers]

Also, hilarious how it sounds that all the action is about to go down now, rather than during the prime time end of the trade period

I wouldn't worry too much, they've had 2 weeks practice waxing lyrical and sounding important while nothing is actually happening at all.

 

[Tex Danger]

Is it pick 19 this year or gold coast's 2019 first rounder?

pick 19 this year

 

[jaytex]

I'm in stitches!

Not a true supporter.. just stop!

I've been a member of the club since inception, hell I even worked for the club once upon a time. I've made friendships with past coaches, players, recruiters and bootstrappers. I've followed my club all over the country, spent more money doing it than most people spend on property. I've slept on the street for days on end through pouring rain just to get a ticket to our biggest games.

I've been there through all the highs and the lows.

It's the deluded pessimistic scum like you, who forever chastise the club despite our consistently punching above our weight, who give a bad name to supporters.

You sit there in your arm chair hurling abuse at an organisation who started with nothing, and have tirelessly worked as a team to become not only a feared and respected opponent or a financial pillar in the sport, but a beacon for all that is great in South Australia.

You don't have any ******* right to be so petulantly impatient. Clubs have waited 40+ years to win flags at the elite level, while their true supporters have stuck by them all along, and you sit there complaining that the little South Aussie club who started out of a tin ******* shed has not become the AFL powerhouse you feel we should be - despite being not so subtly ****** over by our Victorian neighbours for decades.

You make me sick.

Generally agree - but the dude is twelve, thirteen max, and just parrots what the cool kids say. Not an independent thought in his puny mind at this point in his development.

 

[dylan123]

Guarantee you the same posters who thought the sky was falling at this time last year are the same ones posting here now.

In a way they were right about the sky falling, just not due to the trade period.

 

[ABAB]

They are still there talking to GC about Hombsch, hopefully they don’t use him and 5 to get 3.

Hombsch is worth 2 spots from 5......WTF.

 

[Aaron929]

Once that pick gets to GC, I reckon it could be. According to a poster a few pages back, GC are keen on Caldwell, and you’d think he’d still be available at 8.

IMO it’d be worth it to get one of those four.

Port have 5 we don't want 6

we want 2 or 3 or both.

 

[footy4ever]

Polec & Wingard are many things, but trash is not one of them. Both finished in the top 6 in their B&F, and are 2 of the best 3 or 4 ball movers in their side. Port will severely lack run through the middle next year as these guys have been replaced in the 22 with a ruckman, a defender with injury concerns and a Brisbane reject, plus the draft picks which should be good. Certainly short term pain coming for them

Yes I wasn't specific enough. Polec and Wingard were the disharmony, and Pittard certainly was the trash.

 

[Hodgy]

I'm in stitches!

Not a true supporter.. just stop!

I've been a member of the club since inception, hell I even worked for the club once upon a time. I've made friendships with past coaches, players, recruiters and bootstrappers. I've followed my club all over the country, spent more money doing it than most people spend on property. I've slept on the street for days on end through pouring rain just to get a ticket to our biggest games.

I've been there through all the highs and the lows.

It's the deluded pessimistic scum like you, who forever chastise the club despite our consistently punching above our weight, who give a bad name to supporters.

You sit there in your arm chair hurling abuse at an organisation who started with nothing, and have tirelessly worked as a team to become not only a feared and respected opponent or a financial pillar in the sport, but a beacon for all that is great in South Australia.

You don't have any ******* right to be so petulantly impatient. Clubs have waited 40+ years to win flags at the elite level, while their true supporters have stuck by them all along, and you sit there complaining that the little South Aussie club who started out of a tin ******* shed has not become the AFL powerhouse you feel we should be - despite being not so subtly ****** over by our Victorian neighbours for decades.

You make me sick.

Oh Bravo, beautifully said.

 

[Big Gazoongas]

We've been tracking Rozee and Luko in particular since U/15. We will have been preparing for this particular draft for years.

If people think we are done with 6 weeks still to run and we won't be throwing the kitchen sink at this - they've got rocks in their head.

I agree with what you've said in theory but the reality is that we don't have a big enough or shinny enough sink to throw anywhere, except maybe at the Saints pick, for there to be a realistic chance of trading up.

If GC are set on 2 particular players why would they even consider giving away 2 & 3 when keeping those picks guarantees they get who they want and they have a heap more picks to play with as well.
If we wait till draft night to move up we'll need to give away the whole house not just the kitchen sink to even have an outside chance.

If we keep our current hand I don't see we get any of the SA trio, and if we don't and we've been tracking and preparing for this draft for years then that would be a fail.

Hope I'm wrong and you're right but at this stage I think it points more to us missing the boat on the SA lads.

 

[Tex Danger]

Hombsch is worth pick 3......WTF.

who said that.

Hombsch =5 for 3 was the post you quoted

That is a possibility, or Hombsch, 10, 15 for 3 leaving port with 3 and 5. which is probably Rankine and Rozee

 

[Vader]

I believe 1,2&3 are locked away. And 4 will cost us 8, 13 & 16. Or our 2019 first. Won’t happen.

5 was getable.

Last gettable top-5 pick. Now I understand where you're coming from.

I wasn't sure if that was what you meant, or if you were referring to Pick #94 (the last pick listed in the AFL's "Indicative Draft Order"). Pick #94 is the last pick in R5, but there may be clubs making selections in R6, R7 or even R8.

 

[LiamPickering]

I believe 1,2&3 are locked away. And 4 will cost us 8, 13 & 16. Or our 2019 first. Won’t happen.

5 was getable.

And you know that how? Again, if we wanted pick 5, we would've had it. Either we are happy with our current hand or we will have pick 2 ,3 or 4.

 

[Bicks]

Yes I wasn't specific enough. Polec and Wingard were the disharmony, and Pittard certainly was the trash.

None of which changes they were both good contributors in 2018.
2018 John Cahill Medal top 10
1. Justin Westhoff 179 votes
2. Tom Jonas and Ollie Wines 162
4. Robbie Gray 152
5. Jared Polec 151
6. Chad Wingard 143
7. Darcy Byrne-Jones 139
8. Dan Houston 131
9. Travis Boak 126
10. Tom Clurey 110

 

[Danger in Texas]

Port have 5 we don't want 6

we want 2 or 3 or both.

Depends if we want 3, 16 and 21 (and a sure bet at someone like Rankine) or 6, 13 and 16 (and a very likely chance of getting one of Smith/Rankine/Rozee, probably Smith)

I'd prefer the latter

 

[Schulzycrow]

Player trading to go. Then there is pick trading that continues up until 16 November!

Its now a drawn out marathon to keep footy in the media for as long a possible to give a job to all these Vic media hacks.

 

[Tex Danger]

Port have 5 we don't want 6

we want 2 or 3 or both.

2 or 3 willl be hard to get now without paying a lot.

Port will be just as keen

we have 8, 13, 16, 21
they have 5, 10, 15, hombsch (who reportedly will end up at GC)

I feel their hand shades ours so we would essentially have to give an extra pick since their picks are slightly better plus have the player GC want (if that is true) to sweeten any deal.

Whatever we are prepared to offer they could beat and then we would have to stump up a lot to give a deal Port wouldnt match

 

[Tex Danger]

Depends if we want 3, 16 and 21 (and a sure bet at someone like Rankine) or 6, 13 and 16 (and a very likely chance of getting one of Smith/Rankine/Rozee, probably Smith)

I'd prefer the latter

club probably goes for the latter if they truly rate Smith above Rankine as some suggest (and are happy to also factor in go home factor into that).

Unless we think Luko slips past 2, then it is essentially

Rankine, 16, 21 vs Smith, 13, 16
(or potentially smith as the payer either way but just weaker picks to come after him)

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

2 or 3 willl be hard to get now without paying a lot.

Port will be just as keen

we have 8, 13, 16, 21
they have 5, 10, 15, hombsch (who reportedly will end up at GC)

I feel their hand shades ours so we would essentially have to give an extra pick since their picks are slightly better plus have the player GC want (if that is true) to sweeten any deal.

Whatever we are prepared to offer they could beat and then we would have to stump up a lot to give a deal Port wouldnt match

yes but we have Hamish

 

[jo172]

None of which changes they were both good contributors in 2018.
2018 John Cahill Medal top 10
1. Justin Westhoff 179 votes 32
2. Tom Jonas and Ollie Wines 162 28 and 24
4. Robbie Gray 152 31
5. Jared Polec 151
6. Chad Wingard 143
7. Darcy Byrne-Jones 139 23
8. Dan Houston 131 21
9. Travis Boak 126 30
10. Tom Clurey 11025

Bolded the players (that are left) ages at Round 1.

If you've got Westhoff, Jonas, Gray and Boak all about to fall off a cliff (to say nothing of Dixon and Ryder) while losing your best 25 year-olds outside Wines it's not a good sign.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Something has to be brewing after yesterdays flutter with the GC.

I want us to go all in for the S.A talent. no fk's given.

 

[Tex Danger]

yes but we have Hamish

that helps on draft night, but not in trading up.
it is just all the more reason we are less likely to outbid port on 2 or 3

 

[jo172]

yes but we have Hamish

And a development program whereby our players get better after they get drafted as opposed to stagnation and regression.

 

[footy4ever]

None of which changes they were both good contributors in 2018.
2018 John Cahill Medal top 10
1. Justin Westhoff 179 votes
2. Tom Jonas and Ollie Wines 162
4. Robbie Gray 152
5. Jared Polec 151
6. Chad Wingard 143
7. Darcy Byrne-Jones 139
8. Dan Houston 131
9. Travis Boak 126
10. Tom Clurey 110

Well yes again. **** Bigfooty, you can't say anything on here without it being misconstrued.

Yes they were both good contributors, and port will miss that kind of input, but they were also the centre of the latest disharmony at Port. Getting rid of that is a good thing for any team.