Coalition victory how?

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Every year wingnuts protest in Melbourne to change the date and the same wingnuts drive up to Queensland to protest Adani.

Labor are effectively held to ransom by these unrepresentative noisy idiots. Many of them post on these boards, some of them even moderate!
These wing nuts are to stoned to realise the damage they are doing to the ALP.
 
Labor are effectively held to ransom by these unrepresentative noisy idiots. Many of them post on these boards, some of them even moderate!
Much to my embarrassement, my son is going out with a daughter of a Labor MP. Said noisy idiots are not as unrepresentative of modern ALP views as you have been lead to believe. ;)

Thats Melbourne though. Maybe the ALP are a little more measured in WA.
 
Much to my embarrassement, my son is going out with a daughter of a Labor MP. Said noisy idiots are not as unrepresentative of modern ALP views as you have been lead to believe. ;)

Thats Melbourne though. Maybe the ALP are a little more measured in WA.
Every party is represented by noisy idiots. Unfortunately the ones associated with the ALP are the the 2nd least liked. Nobody likes the noisy idiots associated with the far right parties.
 

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The key look-in for the ALP has to be seizing on any hubris or overreach - similar to Howard with Workchoices post-2004.

Yep. If the projected global economic slowdown occurs in 2020 and a recession occurs on the LNP's watch (IMO a reasonable chance given how they'll probably handle it), that's IMO the ALP's chance to absolutely hammer them and smash the idea that they're better economic managers. Basically, the ALP just needs to pin any ensuing recession on the LNP and present themselves as the antidote.

The ALP's recession in the early 1990's would still be a factor, but not nearly as much as one happening right now.
 
Every year wingnuts protest in Melbourne to change the date and the same wingnuts drive up to Queensland to protest Adani.

Labor are effectively held to ransom by these unrepresentative noisy idiots. Many of them post on these boards, some of them even moderate!

North of Brisbane there is a huge reliance on mining and coal. A disaster easily avoided but the alp didn't.
 
Much to my embarrassement, my son is going out with a daughter of a Labor MP. Said noisy idiots are not as unrepresentative of modern ALP views as you have been lead to believe. ;)

Thats Melbourne though. Maybe the ALP are a little more measured in WA.
I live in NSW, they’re more measured everywhere outside of Melbourne. Made the point elsewhere last night, but if you go to union strong collieries in the Hunter you get a quick impression of what real laborism is about, which runs against what inner city lefty types believe matters. Not just coal, but very strong on traditional concepts of masculinity, family etc.

I remember some government pinhead asking the chief engineer at an underground coal mine what their gender diversity was like. It’s two different worlds, the left of the past was able to navigate them and bring them together. Not now.
 
WEAK CONSERVATIVE AUSSIES.

I get it. If you have a small business, have investment properties or are extremely RACIST. Fine, vote liberals.

But to any blue collar, hard working middle class member of Australian society..you screwed up. VOTING FOR LIBERALS DOES NOT HELP YOU. The amount of people I know who voted for Scomo had zero business voting for them. They do not care and wait in a years time or even 7/8 months after the election...they don’t give a flying **** you inbred fools.

You shouldn’t blame the rape victims my friend. Palmer spent at least $50M of his hard won cash to help buy this election.

Here’s five words that you should think of going forward if you want real change “Royal Commission into Parliamentary Corruption”
 
North of Brisbane there is a huge reliance on mining and coal. A disaster easily avoided but the alp didn't.

Rockhampton and above really.

The Adani convoy was *ed, but IMO not really the ALP's fault. Blame Bob Brown for that one.

With the Adani issue, I don't know what the ALP could have done but sit on the fence TBH. Being anti-Adani would alienate the northern Queenslanders, being pro-Adani would alienate Victorians.
 
Yep. If the projected global economic slowdown occurs in 2020 and a recession occurs on the LNP's watch (IMO a reasonable chance given how they'll probably handle it), that's IMO the ALP's chance to absolutely hammer them and smash the idea that they're better economic managers. Basically, the ALP just needs to pin any ensuing recession on the LNP and present themselves as the antidote.

The ALP's recession in the early 1990's would still be a factor, but not nearly as much as one happening right now.
I think we avoided one by not allowing the alp to take 500 billion out of the economy
 
Labour doesn't need to be negative, they have their Union connections to do that. I saw probably 5 union ads for all other parties combined (except our illustrious Palmer) and they were all pure negative. I thought Labour did a good job but Shorten was always a long way behind in preferred PM.

Shorten's popularity was IMO not the main issue, at least vis a vis Morrison.

TBF, I hardly saw any union ads myself.

The real problem was what I described in that post: a big-target strategy, combined with too much positivity, too much negativity.
 
This is a real disaster for Labor.Given the turmoil of the Government over the past 6 years.Or was Scomo a master-stroke by the LNP.
Not sure where Labor go from here.The party +leader +policys where totally rejected.And the vote in Qld-Wa-Tas was terrible for the ALP.
Watching a lot of the coverage last night.Not once did it look like the ALP had a chance of forming government.
 

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Rockhampton and above really.

The Adani convoy was ******ed, but IMO not really the ALP's fault. Blame Bob Brown for that one.

With the Adani issue, I don't know what the ALP could have done but sit on the fence TBH. Being anti-Adani would alienate the northern Queenslanders, being pro-Adani would alienate Victorians.
In rocky the alp candidate, a miner was the only one to openly support mining. The rest of the latte sippers didn't. It was a disaster of their own making
 
I think we avoided one by not allowing the alp to take 500 billion out of the economy

The ALP would definitely be blamed for it if a recession occurred on their watch, that much I agree with.

RE the LNP, we'll see. The slowdown might well not happen.
 
The Adani convoy was ******ed, but IMO not really the ALP's fault. Blame Bob Brown for that one.
Unsurprisingly that backfired massively
 
Are you shifty bill or Bilbo Bowen?

Bowen telling people that they should vote for someone else if they don't like the retirement tax is the height of hypocracy

I’m a guy with a job, a house and enough money to be lucky enough to travel the world. Not rich, but still feel fortunate to have what I have.


But how about the others out there....can’t afford medical bills, no job and will never afford a house!!! It’s tough out there and labor does give those a better opportunity!

It’s a shame. I’ll be alright but I feel bad for some out there who would be in a better spot with a labor government
 
Much to my embarrassement, my son is going out with a daughter of a Labor MP. Said noisy idiots are not as unrepresentative of modern ALP views as you have been lead to believe. ;)

Thats Melbourne though. Maybe the ALP are a little more measured in WA.
Maybe he will grow out of it?
 
I’m a guy with a job, a house and enough money to be lucky enough to travel the world. Not rich, but still feel fortunate to have what I have.


But how about the others out there....can’t afford medical bills, no job and will never afford a house!!! It’s tough out there and labor does give those a better opportunity!

It’s a shame. I’ll be alright but I feel bad for some out there who would be in a better spot with a labor government
. If they stuck to that it would be PM shifty bill.

Unemployment is under 5%, neither have good policies for housing and what opportunity?
 
I remember some government pinhead asking the chief engineer at an underground coal mine what their gender diversity was like. It’s two different worlds, the left of the past was able to navigate them and bring them together. Not now.

I fell off my chair laughing at that. I only wish I could've given it 50 likes instead of just the one. And you're right - it does sum up the inner city ALP group think very well.

Disclaimer - I actually work in the mining industry.
 
The Greens have been raw dogging Labor for a decade now with their stunts. Absolute cancer of a party.

The Greens are a double-edged sword.

On the one hand they did assist Gillard in forming power. On paper they are now really a democratic socialist party, which while not adhering to my own political philosophy, isn't all bad.

On the other hand there's all the other crap they've pulled. Sabotaging Latham in 2004 in Tasmania, the Adani convoy, Wilkie withdrawing support for Gillard, refusing to support the ALP's 2009 emissions scheme...

How should the ALP address them?
 

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