List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread II
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One of the biggest what ifs......
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The only possible explanation for Heath Shaw as a playing recruit would be to effectively increase our soft cap via the TPP.
Pay him in the TPP, take up a list spot, but he's essentially a development coach.
Either way that will be a terrible sell for Shaw to the playing group as they've just axed a player/mate to fit his brother into the TPP, it's also a terrible sell for the coaching group working under him. We axed far more experienced coaches like Rivers and then brought in the coaches brother with 0 coaching experience.
This would be a pretty big cross for Brady if he gives this the green light imo.
If Heath Shaw wants to come over, he can, but he should have to work up from the bottom as the runner/bits and pieces coach, exactly like Boomer has been required to do. If we can't afford him in the soft cap, well he can work part time if he likes....
I think recruiting Heath, letting him pull a $200k wage from the TPP and implanting him as a playing development coach would be the beginning of the end for Rhyce imo. It's going to totally disenchant the playing group and the supporter base.
People had serious issues with Jade Rawlings and Jade had been a coach for 13 years, a VFL senior coach at Coburg and was Richmonds caretaker coach for half a season following Terry Wallace's sacking. I can't imagine the reaction to Heath Shaw.....
If we wanted to go down the route of a coach within the TPP I imagine there would be a long list of suitable candidates, former captains etc that didn't include the coaches brother.
Pay him in the TPP, take up a list spot, but he's essentially a development coach.
Either way that will be a terrible sell for Shaw to the playing group as they've just axed a player/mate to fit his brother into the TPP, it's also a terrible sell for the coaching group working under him. We axed far more experienced coaches like Rivers and then brought in the coaches brother with 0 coaching experience.
This would be a pretty big cross for Brady if he gives this the green light imo.
If Heath Shaw wants to come over, he can, but he should have to work up from the bottom as the runner/bits and pieces coach, exactly like Boomer has been required to do. If we can't afford him in the soft cap, well he can work part time if he likes....
I think recruiting Heath, letting him pull a $200k wage from the TPP and implanting him as a playing development coach would be the beginning of the end for Rhyce imo. It's going to totally disenchant the playing group and the supporter base.
People had serious issues with Jade Rawlings and Jade had been a coach for 13 years, a VFL senior coach at Coburg and was Richmonds caretaker coach for half a season following Terry Wallace's sacking. I can't imagine the reaction to Heath Shaw.....
If we wanted to go down the route of a coach within the TPP I imagine there would be a long list of suitable candidates, former captains etc that didn't include the coaches brother.
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I believe that we already have two guys who fit the role of providing leadership roles on the field. Tarrant in the backline and Higgins around the field.
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And Brown in the forward line......
Wonder why Fact Not Fiction didn't just share the news straight away
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Lol.
I stared at them for about 30 seconds thing "I know those two. Who are they. Before it clicked."
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No idea. I'm not paid to make that call - I can certainly understand why we might move from Brown though. We have needed a more multi-faceted forward line for a while and while he has kicked a lot of goals in the last four years, we have been a very predictable team going forward.
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Called Gaff while we were all circle jerking around his B&F speech though.
Are you really saying JMac or Pittards output is equal to that of H.Shaw?
come one man, I know you’re trying to get a point across but let’s not revision the past here. Shaw would be an automatic upgrade on what we have. The question is clearly, is it the right direction and do we need the leadership with Tarrant and McDonald back there?
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Is Kennedy out of contract? l thought l heard Chris Scott say Ablett was retiring after this season. l have read where Heath Shaw has said he not interested in a coach position at all but just wants to play. If so why would he change his mind if he is given a 1 year contract .l get the feeling , on field, he is good at directing players but off field he would struggle...l would like Kennedy of the ones mentioned.
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Either of them would provide better off-field leadership than Heath IMO.
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I think this whole Heath Shaw thing is just a bigfooty beat up. I would be very surprised if the club is even considering it as it would be a backwards step when we are trying to rejuvenate our list
True. He actually called Gaff before Gaff had decided. Gifted
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And to think he was silly enough to suggest it was 'who you know' at Arden Street...
Complete agree on this, we’re adding two and two to make 5.
It’s a bit of a question mark, IMO the only reason we go after Shaw is if we believe we can bounce up the ladder and compete the year after.
I hear Clayton Oliver is on the move.
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