Discussion 2021 General AFL Discussion

[CursingFijian]

Personally see Sinclair playing better than Hind. He might not be quite as quick but his kicking is next level and I think he is just getting better and better at hbf. Underrated imo.

This has been a breakout year for Sincs in my book. More about him mentally than anything else. But I have always felt he has been a bit reserved. This year he is clearly taking on extra responsibility to move the ball forward and is relishing the role by the look of it.

Definitely top 5 in the B&F at the moment.

 

[BrutThough]

This has been a breakout year for Sincs in my book. More about him mentally than anything else. But I have always felt he has been a bit reserved. This year he is clearly taking on extra responsibility to move the ball forward and is relishing the role by the look of it.

Definitely top 5 in the B&F at the moment.

It's the haircut. Taken him to the next level.

 

[sammm]

If you could come back as anything after you die. What would it be? My top 3 in no particular order:

Megladon
A Richmond supporter
Tarantula Hawk

Hawthorn supporter.
if not then
Richmond

 

[sammm]

This has been a breakout year for Sincs in my book. More about him mentally than anything else. But I have always felt he has been a bit reserved. This year he is clearly taking on extra responsibility to move the ball forward and is relishing the role by the look of it.

Definitely top 5 in the B&F at the moment.

well, maybe he is our Hind.

 

[Bill Mohr]

well, maybe he is our Hind.

His kicking is not next level, that is a big exaggeration. No saints player has next level kicking skills. Hill has good kicking skills because he is mainly in the clear. Sinclair has played better this year but not super consistent. I think he can still improve. He will never have the speed that Hind has. Out of contract at the end of this year ...may stand corrected on that one.

 

[Joffaboy]

There is rugby and then there is League. Which are you referring to?

On a side note I see that some rugby clubs in the world are training with specialised bibs that detect and record the intensity of the contact they sustain. It has allowed their medical department to better manage their contact loads though the week apparently and has in turn resulted in lower match injuries. Fascinating stuff, that is sure to upset traditional minded fans and supporters.

EDIT: Smart mouth guards not training bibs.

Smart Mouthguards Can Detect Concussions And Reduce Injuries In Rugby

Concussions are a hot topic in rugby union. A smart mouthguard can detect the impact of collisions, allowing coaches to adapt training and detect injuries.

www.forbes.com

When I played rugby as a kid in the 70's there was a plethora of hookers and front rowers breaking their necks and being paralysed. This is because neck muscles are one of the last to fully develop and the packs would smash into each other like two rams fighting over a doe from two metres away. Front row would collapse and another hooker with a snapped neck.

Union implemented a rule where the front row would bind followed by the second row, lock and breakaways. If the front row collapsed much less pressure on and much less chance od permanent damage.

Can't see how that damaged the fabric of the game as people are want to say nowdays.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Sometimes I wonder what the recruiters at the club say or the face they put on whenever they pass the coaches and the list manager in the hallway at work.

We were good enough to see the talent. I’d say that Hannebery Hill money is what prevented us from keeping him.

Or…he always wanted to go back to Essendon.

Hind is low flying at the moment, no flash in the pan because he has been doing it all year. Waiting for the club to come out with an answer as to why he was let go. Please leave out the usual excuses such as "we had too many half back flankers" or some other rubbish

 

[CursingFijian]

When I played rugby as a kid in the 70's there was a plethora of hookers and front rowers breaking their necks and being paralysed. This is because neck muscles are one of the last to fully develop and the packs would smash into each other like two rams fighting over a doe from two meters away. Front row would collapse and another hooker with a snapped neck.

Union implemented a rule where the front row would bind followed by the second row, lock and breakaways. If the front row collapsed much less pressure on and much less chance of permanent damage.

Can't see how that damaged the fabric of the game as people are want to say nowadays.

First of all Joffaboy you only need a single prop or hooker to have a plethora, and it's normally in the neck area preventing proper blood flow to the brain.




But you are right, rugby has made sweeping and wholesale rule changes to the game particularly around contact to improve safety for players. Some of the rule changes for scrummaging have been more successful than others. The introduction of a mayday call, no striking beyond the centreline, no wheeling, hips lower than shoulders, elbows not allowed to point down, no collapsing, uncontested scums, and front rowers being able to be resubstituted back on have all been healthy rule changes.

Making it illegal to lift the opposing front row off the ground was the big one for me that really made me feel like the scrum was a safer space to ply your trade.



When I started cutting my teeth you could lift your opponent completely off the ground, and there were pats on the back all round when you bent your opponent. I don't know how to describe it...except to say at the first class level there are some props who are immensely powerful through the neck area...so when you scrummage against them it is like someone has put your head in a hydraulic vice...they literally can distort your head in any direction they want. And when your neck bends...your body wants to follow. So if they bend your head inwards your hips want to kick out. If they bend your head downwards your hips want to go up. Once your hips are up, you can be lifted off the ground.



The 'Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engage' sequence didn't help either as it encouraged charging in the front row. 'Linespeed' at engagement we used to call it. The 'Crouch, bind, set' sequence they have now is much safer as it reduces charging and improves stability.

Scrum injuries causing paraplegia in the 'good old days' were much too common, and accepted as part of the risk of playing the game for much too long.

 

[gringo2011]

First of all Joffaboy you only need a single prop or hooker to have a plethora, and it's normally in the neck area preventing proper blood flow to the brain.

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But you are right, rugby has made sweeping and wholesale rule changes to the game particularly around contact to improve safety for players. Some of the rule changes for scrummaging have been more successful than others. The introduction of a mayday call, no striking beyond the centreline, no wheeling, hips lower than shoulders, elbows not allowed to point down, no collapsing, uncontested scums, and front rowers being able to be resubstituted back on have all been healthy rule changes.

Making it illegal to lift the opposing front row off the ground was the big one for me that really made me feel like the scrum was a safer space to ply your trade.

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When I started cutting my teeth you could lift your opponent completely off the ground, and there were pats on the back all round when you bent your opponent. I don't know how to describe it...except to say at the first class level there are some props who are immensely powerful through the neck area...so when you scrummage against them it is like someone has put your head in a hydraulic vice...they literally can distort your head in any direction they want. And when your neck bends...your body wants to follow. So if they bend your head inwards your hips want to kick out. If they bend your head downwards your hips want to go up. Once your hips are up, you can be lifted off the ground.

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The 'Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engage' sequence didn't help either as it encouraged charging in the front row. 'Linespeed' at engagement we used to call it. The 'Crouch, bind, set' sequence they have now is much safer as it reduces charging and improves stability.

Scrum injuries causing paraplegia in the 'good old days' were much too common, and accepted as part of the risk of playing the game for much too long.

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How does someone have a neck wider than their head? Microcephaly?

 

[pebblesofsand]

Hind is low flying at the moment, no flash in the pan because he has been doing it all year. Waiting for the club to come out with an answer as to why he was let go. Please leave out the usual excuses such as "we had too many half back flankers" or some other rubbish

Ha ha love it - neat debating trick - so they can't raise anything you disagree with?

The answer is straight forward.

We had too many half back flankers plus he can't go through the midfield and he struggles as a small forward.

Got offered a contract by us, Essendon offered him more.

Playing well good on him - but would not bring a lot to our best team. Was always going to be depth only.

 

[Joffaboy]

First of all Joffaboy you only need a single prop or hooker to have a plethora, and it's normally in the neck area preventing proper blood flow to the brain.

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But you are right, rugby has made sweeping and wholesale rule changes to the game particularly around contact to improve safety for players. Some of the rule changes for scrummaging have been more successful than others. The introduction of a mayday call, no striking beyond the centreline, no wheeling, hips lower than shoulders, elbows not allowed to point down, no collapsing, uncontested scums, and front rowers being able to be resubstituted back on have all been healthy rule changes.

Making it illegal to lift the opposing front row off the ground was the big one for me that really made me feel like the scrum was a safer space to ply your trade.

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When I started cutting my teeth you could lift your opponent completely off the ground, and there were pats on the back all round when you bent your opponent. I don't know how to describe it...except to say at the first class level there are some props who are immensely powerful through the neck area...so when you scrummage against them it is like someone has put your head in a hydraulic vice...they literally can distort your head in any direction they want. And when your neck bends...your body wants to follow. So if they bend your head inwards your hips want to kick out. If they bend your head downwards your hips want to go up. Once your hips are up, you can be lifted off the ground.

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The 'Crouch, Touch, Pause, Engage' sequence didn't help either as it encouraged charging in the front row. 'Linespeed' at engagement we used to call it. The 'Crouch, bind, set' sequence they have now is much safer as it reduces charging and improves stability.

Scrum injuries causing paraplegia in the 'good old days' were much too common, and accepted as part of the risk of playing the game for much too long.

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Second definition of plethora was the one O was aiming at.

Great post BTW. So because of these rule changes the fabric of the game has been lost and it isn't a mans game anymore?

 

[CursingFijian]

How does someone have a neck wider than their head? Microcephaly?

Nothing micro about those lads gringo2011. They are all macro and cheese.

 

[sunny3193]

Big shout out to the person responsible for David Teague’s haircut.
Has made my week.
He looks like Jim Carrey in “Dumb and Dumber”.
It’s a shocker.

 

[George]

Big shout out to the person responsible for David Teague’s haircut.
Has made my week.
He looks like Jim Carrey in “Dumb and Dumber”.
It’s a shocker.

Picture?

 

[KingsRansom]

Big shout out to the person responsible for David Teague’s haircut.
Has made my week.
He looks like Jim Carrey in “Dumb and Dumber”.
It’s a shocker.

 

[KingsRansom]

I know it's not the right thread, but I need to vent. YOU HAVE A WORLD TEST CHAMPIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO BEST TEST NATIONS IN A SINGLE TEST SERIES AND YOU PLAY IT IN A COUNTRY THAT RAINS FOR 70% OF THE ******* YEAR!!! WHAT THE EVER LOVING * DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING YOU ******* IDIOTS!!!! The ICC must have the combined braincells of a ******* zombie. Why not the UAE? It's not like your getting much of a crowd there and its a neutral venue and it never bloody rains there!!!!
Stupid dickheaded move of epic ******* proportions....

 

[Mowman]

Watching AFL Tonight on Fox, my god Peter Sumich is hard to listen to

 

[Bill Mohr]

Watching AFL Tonight on Fox, my god Peter Sumich is hard to listen to

He has been like that since day dot, that's the south Freo coming out in him. Not quick that lot from down there.

 

[sunny3193]

Picture?

Can’t capture it.
So bad it broke the camera.

 

[CursingFijian]

Watching AFL Tonight on Fox, my god Peter Sumich is hard to listen to

He's had an exceptionally successful coaching career hasn't he? Seems like he is really good at identifying and developing talent as well. There must be something about him that stops him progressing to the next level.

StCicatriz can you shed some light on him?

 

[gringo2011]

Can’t capture it.
So bad it broke the camera.

4.56 or so on this video.

Looks like when a little kid finds the scissors.

 

[KingsRansom]

He's had an exceptionally successful coaching career hasn't he? Seems like he is really good at identifying and developing talent as well. There must be something about him that stops him progressing to the next level.

StCicatriz can you shed some light on him?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

4.56 or so on this video.

Looks like when a little kid finds the scissors.

He’s as stable as a 3 wheeled trolley.
*er looks like he’s being held hostage and being forced to make a statement by Islamic State

 

[StCicatriz]

He's had an exceptionally successful coaching career hasn't he? Seems like he is really good at identifying and developing talent as well. There must be something about him that stops him progressing to the next level.

StCicatriz can you shed some light on him?

laziness, the guy wouldn't leave Perth. had serious run ins with Ross. then burnt some bridges at WCE when he didn't get the job over Simpson

 

[XhazzafootyX]

He’s pretty unprofessional Tony Cochrane.