List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

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King Corey said:
You're entitled to your view. I think there is probably a blurry statute on retaining draft position value but at 4 seasons in it's passed imo.

If we came after CCJ in 2019 there'd be a reasonable argument that Richmond want more realisation of their original pick #20.

If we want to cite Nankervis as mentioned as precedent - he depreciated 1 round in value. 2nd round pick in 2013 traded for a 3rd round pick just 3 years later.

Applying the same logic to CCJ, his 2nd round selection should depreciate until at least a 3rd round selection - if not later because he comes with an off-field conduct disclaimer and an extra year on the clock.
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It's only been 3 seasons, not 4. And 2 of them were so covid effected that the 2nds barely played which makes it harder to judge. Not to mention no space for him in a top team too

There's a bit of a difference between a second round pick #35 and a second round pick #20. One was the first pick of the second round. Bit silly to view the value of the pick purely based on the round it's on.

But hey if that's how you view it we've got a lovely pick #17 for #1 :) Same round so same value eh?
 
Horace said:
Did we actually offer CCJ $2 million? By golly, miss Molly, sack our recruiting people immediately and throw in Pick 1 to Richmond simultaneously. May still not be enough for these strange Richmond types who seem to enjoy making idiots of themselves over here.
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How much did you offer him then?
 
TiggerMan22 said:
It's only been 3 seasons, not 4. And 2 of them were so covid effected that the 2nds barely played which makes it harder to judge. Not to mention no space for him in a top team too

There's a bit of a difference between a second round pick #35 and a second round pick #20. One was the first pick of the second round. Bit silly to view the value of the pick purely based on the round it's on.

But hey if that's how you view it we've got a lovely pick #17 for #1 :) Same round so same value eh?
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Our pick 1 doesn’t want to leave
 

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Tristan Xerri is the newest name on the ruck merry-go-round as the potential implications begin from Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones’ impending arrival at North Melbourne.
St Kilda is on the hunt for a younger ruckman to partner Rowan Marshall beyond next year, which looms as veteran big man Paddy Ryder’s last in the AFL.

It’s understood the Saints have honed in on contracted Kangaroo Xerri after also showing interest in Western Bulldog Jordon Sweet, who remains without a contract for 2022 and is linked to West Coast.

The Bulldogs have made Sweet an offer to stay, but he was overlooked in the finals for Lewis Young, who has since requested a trade to Carlton.

North Melbourne would have to be willing to trade Xerri, who isn’t out of contract until the end of next year.

He averaged 21.5 disposals, 15.5 contested possessions, 5.5 clearances and 26.2 hit-outs in six VFL games this year, but played only eight matches at senior level, all in the second half of the season.

Todd Goldstein remains the clear No. 1 ruck option at the Roos but turns 34 next year, when his three-year contract expires.

Tom Campbell kept 201cm Xerri out of the side up until Round 13 while serving as Goldstein’s deputy.
 
We wouldn’t get much for him.
 
Jackson Hately - #14 pick, Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones - #20 pick , North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.
 

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Tristan Xerri is the newest name on the ruck merry-go-round as the potential implications begin from Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones’ impending arrival at North Melbourne.
St Kilda is on the hunt for a younger ruckman to partner Rowan Marshall beyond next year, which looms as veteran big man Paddy Ryder’s last in the AFL.

It’s understood the Saints have honed in on contracted Kangaroo Xerri after also showing interest in Western Bulldog Jordon Sweet, who remains without a contract for 2022 and is linked to West Coast.

The Bulldogs have made Sweet an offer to stay, but he was overlooked in the finals for Lewis Young, who has since requested a trade to Carlton.

North Melbourne would have to be willing to trade Xerri, who isn’t out of contract until the end of next year.

He averaged 21.5 disposals, 15.5 contested possessions, 5.5 clearances and 26.2 hit-outs in six VFL games this year, but played only eight matches at senior level, all in the second half of the season.

Todd Goldstein remains the clear No. 1 ruck option at the Roos but turns 34 next year, when his three-year contract expires.

Tom Campbell kept 201cm Xerri out of the side up until Round 13 while serving as Goldstein’s deputy.
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Interesting.
This makes sense.
 
giantroo said:
Jackson Hately - #14 pick - 13 games - Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones - #20 pick - 9 games - North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.
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giantroo said:
Jackson Hately - #14 pick, Crows offered pick 40 and GWS rejected it. They went to the PSD.

Callum Coleman-Jones - #20 pick , North offered future 3rd (~38-42). Let's see if the Tigers accept or lose him for nothing.
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Maybe this is the recent precedent Luff might be referring to, though I think so given he referenced CCJs position as a ruck forward
 
So nobody is interested in Big Tommy C? Why? :stern look
 
giantroo said:
Possibly or even a future 3rd or 4th.
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Richmond logic indicates that because we put 4 years development into him and he's ready to flourish that he must be worth a second rounder...;)
 
I do think clubs will look to trade players with a year to go on the contract going forward
 
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