The way Richmond are towelling up the Hawks we will probably go ahead of them on %. If Richmond extend their lead to 100 points it will probably happen.
Review Good/Bad vs North Melbourne, R22 2022
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This is true but he is around average size for mids and I'm fine with that. JHF is similar.
The fact we have nothng close to ave size in Laird, Schoenberg, Berry, Soligo, Taylor, Rachele, if he goes in there, McHenry, Jones, as all are on small size being sub 181cm.
So if size doesn't matter name the last premiership with all mids under 185cm nevermind 181cm?
None this century so you have to ask the question why?
If the average mid is 7cm taller then that gets to around 10cm extra in reach and 7-10kgs in weight.
The job becomes even harder if you don't have a dominant ruck to hit it to space.
People can use emotion as much as they want and suggest players to back up their beliefs about size doesn't matter but the list of premiership winners since 2000 produce a set of facts and statistics that clearly says you need at least one 185cm+ mid who is elite.
Since 2000 something like 75% of Norm Smith Medalists are drafted not traded in and are over 185cm and are mids.
So if you're bottoming out to rebuild for a premiership logic is put the odds in your favour and we haven't done it.
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Hawks still comfortability 1.6% clear.
Watched the replay this morning (yes I'm bored). I think Doedee slipped over once in a marking contest on the wing and aside from that, didn't do much wrong for the entire game. Good defensively and clean. Not sure why he got such criticism
Schoenberg was also okay in the first 3 quarters
Schoenberg was also okay in the first 3 quarters
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Yeah I watched it too, not sure why he was getting bagged
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These boards can be funny. Once guys achieve whipping boy status its hard for some to see anything they do as decent. Acknowledging a decent game from a player you dont rate or want in the side doesn't mean you are calling for them to remain.
Hawks with Mitchell (1.8), Hodge (just 1.85) and Lewis and Burgoyne listed as just 1cm above your cut off of over 185?
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I had this conversation with a port supporter mate the other day, funny how when they can't make finals the prison bars issue comes out again. Tried to show him the shiny toy they are using while the nurse give them the injection but would cop it.
I see a lot of good things McHenry does too but he gets bagged all the time
Its not my cut off it what the statistics show. Compare that to the 178, 178, 179 and 180, 180, 180, 181 we have currently.
That is potentially all 3 mids 2-3 inches shorter in a lot of set ups.
The point is we don't currently have anyone decent close to 185cm and we arent intending to draft anyone.
Why has no midfield with only small midfielders like ours won a flag?
Interesting none of the absolute champion smaller mids under 183cm like Mitchell, Ablett Jnr, Selwood, Cousins, Voss, Akermanis, have won a Norm Smith in the past 20 years.
As I said we will have to create modern history to win a flag with our current midfielders
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Maybe we need to see how some develop that are already on our list and mostly in their development phase.
Lachlan Gollant 192cm in his brief NAB League career played wing/midfield though it seems that's not his end game with us
Brayden Cook 190cm wing/midfield is no doubt the end game for him.
Luke Nankervis 189cm another that only had a brief stint at NAB League level playing wing/half forward but Hamish said in his post draft interview the end game with him was likely midfield
Jackson Hately 191cm midfielder though I will grant you he has to this point not played like a bigger bodied mid does and he was a 1st round pick.
Brett Turner 185cm 88Kg midfielder/forward is certainly big bodied.
Out of interest how many of your Norm Smith Medalist winning midfielders were available to the Adelaide Crows with the draft picks we held?
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I finally got around to watching the game (second half only).
Good
Schoenberg had some really clean clearances and his goal was electric.
Jones had a few really nice moments. Tough as nails.
Hinge continues some decent form.
Dawson was great although missed a few easy targets.
Mchenry (who I bag) had a couple of great moments. One when he bumped Anderson and won the ball and the other protecting Rowes soccer goal. More of that and less being ragdolled please.
Fogarty was immense. That poor point post almost copped his wrath.
Good to see RT out there.
Less good
Laird quiet but very forgiveable considering he has carried us all year. Same with Berry who still managed a truckload of tackles.
Doedee struggles maybe was more poor form than injuries. Can't keep his feet to save himself and his disposal is ordinary.
Smith didn't do a lot. For every goal he scores from outside 50 he misses 10. Give it up.
Ugly
Umpiring. Eleni is atrocious. She gets sucked into making decisions that 99% of umpires ignore.
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Good
Schoenberg had some really clean clearances and his goal was electric.
Jones had a few really nice moments. Tough as nails.
Hinge continues some decent form.
Dawson was great although missed a few easy targets.
Mchenry (who I bag) had a couple of great moments. One when he bumped Anderson and won the ball and the other protecting Rowes soccer goal. More of that and less being ragdolled please.
Fogarty was immense. That poor point post almost copped his wrath.
Good to see RT out there.
Less good
Laird quiet but very forgiveable considering he has carried us all year. Same with Berry who still managed a truckload of tackles.
Doedee struggles maybe was more poor form than injuries. Can't keep his feet to save himself and his disposal is ordinary.
Smith didn't do a lot. For every goal he scores from outside 50 he misses 10. Give it up.
Ugly
Umpiring. Eleni is atrocious. She gets sucked into making decisions that 99% of umpires ignore.
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By using the draft pick on one instead of Rankine. Nobody is trading one that is any good
Midfield was the problem not rob. This time at least. This game should hopefully have proved that laird keays berry will never work again
I find it very difficult to believe a few cms smaller would make such a difference and Berry and Pedlar are both listed at 182cm and 184cm, maybe traditionally slightly taller players play in the midfield but this has recently changed with a lot more of them coming through?
Someone said LDU only played half a good game. Brained them
Pretty consistent throughout but it was his 2nd qtr that really stood out to me with his clearances.
Shoenberg's best game for the year going by those ratings too
Maybe Elijah Holland's.
So what's the point of gutting the team going to the bottom and not get the most important ingredients for success?
Midfields win games and we choose to spend most of our high draft capital elsewhere along with winning pointless games to miss out on the very pointy end of the draft.
So out of all those you listhigglights the point of Hmish drafting. Apart from Cook absolutely zero draft capital invested in anything sthat represents the most important type of player in premiership success.
I'm glad you continual to ignore all the evidence and apologetic for a flawed list rebuild. If they trade a JHF type in it could well be the difference but to compare the list you present as possibilities is like picking 0 on the roulette wheel. The odds are hard at the pointy end never mind rookie picks.
