Review QF: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood

[Danger in Texas]

why? you are letting a feigned outrage get in your head. Just let fans be fans.

It goes beyond that, mate

 

[adelaidecrows]

Dawson was terrible. Should be ashamed of his performance as captain

Does Dawson fly the flag enough for his team mates? I think we have too many big players that let opposition players get away with far too much.

 

[adelaidecrows]

It goes beyond that, mate

how though? you believe what you want I guess. Just doesnt make you right.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Im glad someone posted this, but I disagree with the summary a bit.

Last night we had 16 players play their first final. Of said 16 I reckon maybe Pedlar, Worrell and Curtin stamped themselves immediately as "finals" types. Max will be, but hes underdone and Filthy will be too although he had a bit of a dirty night at times. There are some experienced players in that 16, but the finals lights burn brighter for longer, until you experience it, you dont know what its about. Some might not get another chance, but most will and they'll be better for it. We might even have 1 or 2 more finals debutants next week. Thats a starting 18s worth of players exposed to this level. Thats a very good thing

When you pair that with playing against the most battle hardened, well coached side in the game that thrives off the siege mentality, last night was always a chance to play out like it did. IMO as well as the composure, they knew how wound up we'd be and played on it.

Then you've got the 7 who HAVE played. Of those, only Walker, ANB, Dawson and Laird could hold their heads up to any degree. They weren't great, but they busted their proverbials all night. We will miss the big fella when hes gone.

The other 3 may as well not have been there, slightly harsh on Smith as he came in when we were toasted, but he needed to do better.

Injuries and suspensions are no excuse as everyone is missing someone, but losing both of your front half X factors wasn't ideal.

It took Brisbane a couple of goes before they started to get the finals ball rolling so im confident we can, but it might have to wait another year.

Good summary .....we had no flow last night, pressure on the ball & ball carrier poor

I'm more confident about next week, than I was about this week .....was another week's break better for COLL or us ? .....my POV is continuity of play is better for this young inexperienced Finals team ....a lot of learnings from tonight

Even an underdone Rachelle will be better than Taylor as a FWD ....Taylor simply has to have an outstanding PS and stake a claim to a Midfield spot in 2026

 

[adelaidecrows]

Booing Quaynor certainly put him off his game.

Well I thought he must be too devo to function after what Rankine said. so doesnt this mean the whole incident could be overblown?

 

[Greenfinger]

I hate to say it, but TT cost us big time.

Cost us 2 goals directly on the half back line and missed another hand balling to Keays.

Thilthorpe was absolutely woeful last night. Looked nervous as hell from the start and zero intensity

 

[moogerfooger]

I for one am glad that the Izak distraction (made worse because we were playing Collingwood again and he was brought back into the fold the day before the game) should now be in the rear view mirror. Should be able to laser focus on next week and hopefully attack the game with a better understanding of the pressure we're going to face.

 

[moogerfooger]

Thilthorpe was absolutely woeful last night. Looked nervous as hell from the start and zero intensity

He looked gassed and he wasn't alone. Reminded me of the '17 GF when a lot of players looked mentally drained and lacked energy from the beginning. Mental approach for the whole team really needs some work.

 

[Louis Litt]

Dare I say we showed a lack of composure at times tonight, even by a bloke who's played 300 games.

Pies are a very well coached and structured team. They have numerous spuds out there but still get the job done. F*cking Daicos hit absolutely every kick tonight, some of them almost impossible.

Agreed - Collingwood have 3 to 4 players w.ho would not get a game with Adelaide. But still the Crows lost

 

[Greenfinger]

Im glad someone posted this, but I disagree with the summary a bit.

Last night we had 16 players play their first final. Of said 16 I reckon maybe Pedlar, Worrell and Curtin stamped themselves immediately as "finals" types. Max will be, but hes underdone and Filthy will be too although he had a bit of a dirty night at times. There are some experienced players in that 16, but the finals lights burn brighter for longer, until you experience it, you dont know what its about. Some might not get another chance, but most will and they'll be better for it. We might even have 1 or 2 more finals debutants next week. Thats a starting 18s worth of players exposed to this level. Thats a very good thing

When you pair that with playing against the most battle hardened, well coached side in the game that thrives off the siege mentality, last night was always a chance to play out like it did. IMO as well as the composure, they knew how wound up we'd be and played on it.

Then you've got the 7 who HAVE played. Of those, only Walker, ANB, Dawson and Laird could hold their heads up to any degree. They weren't great, but they busted their proverbials all night. We will miss the big fella when hes gone.

The other 3 may as well not have been there, slightly harsh on Smith as he came in when we were toasted, but he needed to do better.

Injuries and suspensions are no excuse as everyone is missing someone, but losing both of your front half X factors wasn't ideal.

It took Brisbane a couple of goes before they started to get the finals ball rolling so im confident we can, but it might have to wait another year.

Berry stood up under finals pressure too. You can’t say thilthorpe will based on that performance. Was terrible

 

[Bob Neil]

They litetally just said on 5AA bond cost us tonight and wasn't upto it with his man elliot kicking 3 goals on him.

I blame the coaches for that matchup. Elliott is primarily a marking threat and it should have been Michalanney on him not Bond. Bond is best - perhaps only - suited to the genuine crumbing small forward types and could have taken Bobby Hill if he played. Just a poor defensive setup.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Good summary .....we had no flow last night, pressure on the ball & ball carrier poor

I'm more confident about next week, than I was about this week .....was another week's break better for COLL or us ? .....my POV is continuity of play is better for this young inexperienced Finals team ....a lot of learnings from tonight

Even an underdone Rachelle will be better than Taylor as a FWD ....Taylor simply has to have an outstanding PS and stake a claim to a Midfield spot in 2026

How do you think Mafhew went? Selection, gameplan, allowing Moore to destroy us?

 

[Danger in Texas]

how though? you believe what you want I guess. Just doesnt make you right.

I’m still trying to understand a good, reportable reason why he was booed, but go off

 

[George CantStandYa]

I agree, hard to find any positives from the game .....I do think though, Pedlar justified his inclusion over Dowling, and showed he is a Finals type player with a Finals temperament

Finals are different, and it shows up players who can't handle the spotlight

The last month has been poor by both Berry and Peatling .....tonight their performances as mids were unacceptable !
Berry starts in sparkling form, but hasn't a 4 qtr game in him (12 disposals as a mid, ONLY 1 tackle!)
Peatling, and I stand to be corrected, has had his best games against teams outside of the 8 ( 9 disposals as a Mid, and ONLY 2 tackles !)

Both these players are mean't to have tackling / pressure as their #1 wood .....but it's been a long while since they've showed anything

The fact Laird had to be shoe-horned back into the midfield as a starting Mid .....showed we were aware of the midfield issues

In every game where our midfield has stalled, or the game was on the line ....Rankine was that midfield spark ....our Daicos, such is his importance .....devastating loss!

First rule of finals footy is, Forwards have to be in front, due to high number of hack kicks ......our fwds allowed COLL defenders to take front spot

And Nicks allowing the spare?

 

[adelaidecrows]

I’m still trying to understand a good, reportable reason why he was booed, but go off

you have yet to say why he shouldnt be. one side doesnt have to justify itself.

 

[Louis Litt]

just so frustrating that we do all the legwork in the season and then once again when the real stuff starts we're not ready. we werent ready for a team we just played. not only did we miss izak, his stupidity like a fire under collingwood too. he ****ed us on two accounts.

some of the players need to take one hell of a look at that performance and decide if thats as good as they can give, and if they want to play more than two finals.

On principle we lost to a pack of cobbers over a slang name. What’s done on the field stays on the field. Loosing to Collingwood on principle is the worst result.

 

[Scorpus]

Berry stood up under finals pressure too. You can’t say thilthorpe will based on that performance. Was terrible

Berry couldn't get near it for large chunks of the game. Was bullied by Collingwood

 

[Cromulant]

Berry stood up under finals pressure too. You can’t say thilthorpe will based on that performance. Was terrible

Berry constantly fumbled all night, Thilthorpe had to deal with poor delivery from the likes of him

 

[Louis Litt]

On principle we lost to a pack of cobbers over a slang name. What’s done on the field stays on the field. Loosing to Collingwood on principle is the worst result.

Dobbers not cobbers - auto correct

 

[George CantStandYa]

I’m still trying to understand a good, reportable reason why he was booed, but go off

It’s because Rankine called him a xxxxxxx and got suspended. Trying to say otherwise is bullshit.

If it was because Quaynor picked on him, why is it the boos were loudest for Quaynor and not Houston?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Looked to me like Fogarty copped a corkie to his thigh in the second. Anybody else notice it, on the E side?
Didn't look like much, not noticed by commentators, but might explain his awful second half ...?

He was definitely sore after one marking contest

Whether that lingered I don't know

 

[Greenfinger]

The pathetic crap around Walkers son being obsessed with Daicos can end now as well. If we somehow make it to a GF and end up playing them again, I don't want a bar of that shit.

The focus on that Really p&ssed me off at the time. They are the enemy ffs . This is a ruthless competition.

 

[Cromulant]

He looked gassed and he wasn't alone. Reminded me of the '17 GF when a lot of players looked mentally drained and lacked energy from the beginning. Mental approach for the whole team really needs some work.

This is another thing, and its on the coaches and selection committee.

We battled through the season trying to get ourselves in the position that we did.... but we did so running guys into the ground.

Of all our senior types only Walker and Laird got rested.

 

[lacrow]

Gee, do you think we might have had a better midfielder in the game tonight had we given Billy Dowling games starting in like round 10 and let him develop?

Not saying he would have made it, but I'd like to at least have found out if a guy getting 40 possessions in the SANFL can make it in this league.

 

[George CantStandYa]

People think our midfield will suddenly turn it on next week and we won’t allow Sicily or a GWS defender to do a Moore on us? Will we take the game on or go safety first and kick down the line to contests?

The only thing we will have going for us next week is the extra 2 days break.