NFL 2012 NFL Draft - Discussion

[juddy_Like]

FG, you're either taking the piss or have avoided reading DB's posts. He's been talking up Moore the past couple years in various threads- you might start with his Boise State thread, which is near the top.

To be fair, he had an excellent career at BSU, and apart from height issues (he somehow topped out at 6 feet during the combines- better guess is 5 foot 10....he could be a very serviceable QB for an NFL team.

In my mind, certainly showed more than a couple of the QBs who were drafted- but NFL drafts can often be very strange.

You will find that most people on BF actually like Moore and his college achievements. Most people actually want him to succeed.

But when Moore gets the 'Tebow' treatment, it actually gets annoying for a say 6th round player. Even more annoying when you say the best draft prospect in 10 years is over-rated.

 

[Dirty Bird]

The best QB that college football has ever seen..................in Case Keenum just signed with the Texans.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Ok, I MIGHT concede Philadelphia as well.

Why would we be a concession? We're the best place in the league for a young back up.

- Injury prone starter
- Serious weapons on offense
- Head coach with a history of developing QBs.
- Record of developing back ups into highly sought QBs, then trading them somewhere to start.
- Possibility that we're already looking for our next future franchise QB.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Why would we be a concession? We're the best place in the league for a young back up.

- Injury prone starter
- Serious weapons on offense
- Head coach with a history of developing QBs.
- Record of developing back ups into highly sought QBs, then trading them somewhere to start.
- Possibility that we're already looking for our next future franchise QB.

because you have depth, Kafka, and now Foles. It's a fight for the spots, not an easy in like the other places I named.

 

[DaSawx]

Troy lineman James Brown, who Kiper had in his 50s has signed with the Bears.

 

[larkis]

Rams look a whole lot better after the draft.

Brocker should come in immediately, we got two good DBs to play along side Finnegan, two WR's which will make an extremely competitive receiving corps, a RB which should add some creativity to our offense, LB which will be a good career backup for us and an OG which should be a good career starter.

All we need is a few good OLBs and we're set to compete.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Upcoming NFL calendar of events...


July 22: Deadline for unsigned UFA to sign with new clubs.

July 22: Deadline for transition players to sign with new clubs.

Late July: Training camps across the league begin.

Aug. 4: Hall of Fame enshrinement ceremony

Aug. 5: Hall of Fame Game: Arizona vs. New Orleans, Canton, Ohio, 8 p.m. ET

Aug. 9: Preseason Week 1

Aug. 13: Preseason Week 2

Aug. 20: Preseason Week 3

Aug. 23: Preseason Week 4

Aug. 28: Roster cutdown to 80 players (90 the new pre-season max)

Sept. 2: Roster cutdown to 53 players

 

[Dirty Bird]

Track UDFA signings here: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents


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obsessed much?

 

[Exe Gesis]

ProFootballWeekly's pick-by-pick analysis.

An excellent resource/analysis if you want to get a better idea of your team's acquisitions.

The 2012 NFL draft began with Indianapolis selecting Stanford QB Andrew Luck and ended with the Colts choosing another quarterback, Northern Illinois QB Chandler Harnish. Throughout the three-day event, Pro Football Weekly personnel evaluator Nolan Nawrocki provided a scout's take on each of the 253 players chosen and how each is likely to fit into his new team's scheme.

Below are the links to Nawrocki's analysis of each pick in the 2012 NFL draft, round by round:

Round One

Round Two

Round Three

Round Four

Round Five

Round Six

Round Seven

 

[arkie]

Ron Brooks has speed personified. Played as the rotating CB on the other side of Claiborne @ LSU. You will see the Bills go from the bottom 5 of TD's allowed in passing to possibly the NFL's #1 D. If Mario Williams can stay healthy.. the Bills are going to be the hardest team to crack. Lots to like about the Bills in 2012. 81-1 SB shot. Worth throwing a ten on them.

Defense is definitely much improved but have the Bills addressed the tackle position on the O-line?

Pears is the clear RT but with Bell leaving to the Eagles the team needs to make sure they fill the void left in the LT position. Mayock said that Cordy Glenn doesn't have LT feet so Zebrie Sanders would be better suited to the LT position then?

 

[_shifty_]

Rams look a whole lot better after the draft.

Brocker should come in immediately, we got two good DBs to play along side Finnegan, two WR's which will make an extremely competitive receiving corps, a RB which should add some creativity to our offense, LB which will be a good career backup for us and an OG which should be a good career starter.

All we need is a few good OLBs and we're set to compete.

Brockers is a destroyer of worlds, was doubled 30+ times against Bama compared to 9 for Cox and still had a huge impact.
Combined with Janoris, close to the best corner in the draft on the field, they did very well

 

[Exe Gesis]

.........

more from Gil Brandt…it’s still a challenge for semis to get a life even though draft is over…here’s why

• Position-by-position look at top undrafted free agents

Historically, there have been some great rookie free agents, including Doug Baldwin (the Seattle Seahawks’ leader in receiving yards and catches as a rookie in 2011), Arian Foster (the NFL’s 2010 rushing leader), Kurt Warner (a two-time NFL MVP) and 15 members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Last season, 59 undrafted free agents were on Week 1 rosters. So, despite not being selected in the 2012 NFL Draft, these players still have a chance of finding the right situation to succeed.

1. Chris Polk, RB, Washington — This is the top player I’d go after out of this group. Polk was a three-year starter for the Huskies and rushed for 1,400-plus yards in 2010 and 2011. He is a good, strong-bodied runner and one of the best receiving backs in the country. (UPDATE: Polk said he has agreed to terms with the Philadelphia Eagles.)

2. James Brown, G, Troy — Brown has very long arms (34½ inches) and big hands. He has the athletic ability to play left tackle and eventually can develop into an NFL starter.

3. Luke Nix, G, Pittsburgh — Nix is a very aggressive and tenacious blocker. He’s tough and smart, and he has the ability to pull and get to the second level to make blocks.

4. Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State — Moore’s only negative is his lack of outstanding height (though he measured just a quarter-inch shorter than the New Orleans Saints’ Drew Brees). Moore won more games than any other starting QB in the history of major college football, and he set an NCAA single-season record for lowest percentage of passes intercepted. Over four seasons at Boise State, Moore threw 142 touchdown passes and just 28 interecptions. Last year, he completed 74.3 percent of his passes. He’s a rhythm passer, so he doesn’t have the strongest arm and will hit players in stride. (UPDATE: Moore said he has agreed to terms with the Detroit Lions.)

5. Brandon Bolden, RB, Ole Miss — Bolden is a very athletic, very good inside runner with good vision. Almost more important as far as his NFL prospects are concerned, he’s a good receiver, which is something teams look for out of the backfield.

6. Quentin Saulsberry, C, Mississippi State — Saulsberry has played all positions along the line in his college career, starting at tackle, guard and center. He had five starts at center and nine at guard last season, but his best position is center. He’s very competitive, athletic and has the intangibles and strong attitude to be a good player.

7. Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State — Brewster started 49 consecutive games for Ohio State, a school record. He was able to get to the second level on blocks and also able to handle strong defensive tackles who rush him. There’s a strong chance for him to stick around at a place that really needs a center. (UPDATE: Brewster reportedly has agreed to terms with the Jacksonville Jaguars.)

8. Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State — Burfict was once thought to be one of the best players ever to be recruited by Arizona State. He didn’t disappoint in his first year, earning Pac-10 Defensive Freshman of the Year honors in 2009, but he didn’t play well in 2011. He got heavy — heavier than he should — and also had some problems with the coaching staff. At the NFL Scouting Combine, he quit on drills. But now he’s going to find out that if he wants to make a living playing football, he’ll have to listen to what coaches are telling. (UPDATE: Burfict has agreed to terms with the Cincinnati Bengals, a source with knowledge of the situation told NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport.)

9. Jermaine Kearse, WR, Washington — Kearse has been a starter since his freshman year in 2008. His best season came in 2010, when he had 1,005 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns. His production tailed off, however, in 2011 (699 yards, seven touchdowns). He brings strong leadership qualities. One thing he has to work on is concentrating better on making the catch — he does have some drops — but has playmaking ability once he has the ball.

10. Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State — Johnson didn’t run well at the combine, but he ran extremely well at his pro day. He was a high school quarterback. When Iowa State stunned then-No. 2-ranked Oklahoma State in November, Johnson did a very good job defending Justin Blackmon (the first-round pick of the Jaguars). Johnson could be a great special teams player because of his toughness and probably is best suited for a Cover 2-schemed team.

 

[_shifty_]

Most impressive scouting report
"Dennard allegedly pushed and punched an officer in the face, and police say it took four officers to take him into custody."

Pound for pound beast. Drafting players is more always more fun when you know they're as likely to be at camp as in jail, adds some supsense to it

 

[DaSawx]

So the two receivers Minnesota took in the 4th round, both went to High School together, then both went to the University of Arkansas, then both drafted in the same round to the same team.

Pretty cool story.

 

[Bombers_Forever]

LOL at Josh Brown being released from the Rams - took the cash saying he wasn't a 'slave to the businessman'. He didn't win too many games off his own boot like he did with us and didn't play in the playoffs. Oh well, I am sure the money was worth it

 

[Blacky]

So the two receivers Minnesota took in the 4th round, both went to High School together, then both went to the University of Arkansas, then both drafted in the same round to the same team.

Pretty cool story.

known each other since 'grade' 3. Unbelievable

 

[Exe Gesis]

Can someone work out who it is?

click link to see some tweets

As my esteemed colleague, Gregg Rosenthal, pointed out, there will be plenty of ridiculousness to "The Top 100: Players of 2012." But perhaps the most craziest part of this year's countdown has nothing to do with the show itself.

It's this "PlayerRater" guy on Twitter. You heard of him?

Basically, what we have here is an anonymous current NFL player who's chiming in on the countdown, and he has agreed to do this for NFL Network. I swear I don't know who he is, but if he's trustworthy, then here's what we know about his identity: He's a former first-round draft pick. He's on an NFC South team. He plays defense. He has never faced Willis McGahee, but he has faced Marshawn Lynch.

Think you know who the mystery man is? Take a stab in the comments section -- but not before checking out his one-liners about players Nos. 100 to 91...

 

[Exe Gesis]

Some trivia about the 2012 draft...

The Denver Broncos won the Peyton Manning sweepstakes last month, which, not surprisingly, made Tim Tebow expendable, resulting in his trade to the New York Jets for fourth- and sixth-round picks in the 2012 NFL Draft.

So who'd the Broncos use those two picks on? Baylor center Philip Blake (fourth) and Kentucky linebacker Danny Trevathan (sixth).

Worth it? It doesn't matter if it's worth it! Denver won the Manning sweepstakes, which means DeMaryius Thomas, Eric Decker and Co. don't have to deal with passes landing at their feet. That's good enough.

An interesting side note to the trade: With Blake now on the team, that means he'll be gunning for J.D. Walton's job. Why is that interesting? Walton, who has started every game the last two seasons for the Broncos, mentored Blake when they were teammates at Baylor.

The draft can be cruel like that sometimes.

Here are some other interesting factoids coming out of Radio City Music Hall:

Robert Griffin to the Jets
Mark Sanchez already had to worry about Tim Tebow, and now he's got to be concerned with Robert Griffin? No, the Jets didn't draft RG3, though they did add his teammate from Baylor who plays guard.

Jets coach Rex Ryan joked that he was thrown off by the pick when general manager Mike Tannenbaum announced it.

"There's something where everybody thinks there's a quarterback controversy and all that," Ryan said, referring to having both Sanchez and Tebow on the roster. "When Tannenbaum said, `Hey, we just got Robert Griffin from Baylor,' I'm like, `What?"'

Brandon Marshall to the Jaguars
The Jacksonville Jaguars bolstered their receiving corps by trading up to draft Justin Blackmon fifth overall. Later in the draft they added Brandon Marshall.

That's Brandon M. Marshall, linebacker out of Nevada, in the fifth round. Trust us, this isn't the first time he's been mistaken for the Chicago Bears' wide receiver.

"Man, I get the comparison all the time, almost every day, people on Facebook, people on Twitter," he said. "Just the other day, somebody tweeted me, 'Who would you like the Bears to pick with 19th pick?' I tweeted back, I said, 'Brandon Marshall, linebacker from Nevada.' Then he was like, 'It would be kind of crazy to have two people with the same name on the same team.'"

Eagles use Samuel pick on RB
Asante Samuel was only worth a seventh-round pick. The Philadelphia Eagles used that pick acquired from the Atlanta Falcons to select Kansas State running back Bryce Brown.

Samuel is a Pro Bowl corner. We know little to nothing about this Brown kid. Guess that doesn't say much about what Samuel meant to Philly.

Vikings draft childhood friends
The Minnesota Vikings drafted a pair of Arkansas receivers, Jarius Wright and Greg Childs, in the fourth round. Cool thing here is that they've known each other since the third grade.

"We had talked about this one day, what if we end up going to the same NFL team?" Childs said. "It would be crazy because we've been to middle school, elementary, high school together. Same college team. Now we're moving on in life and we're still going to be on the same team together."

Titans draft TE who never played position
Let's just say Taylor Thompson's got a pair on him.

Nevermind that Thompson never caught a single pass during his college career as a defensive end at SMU. He entered the NFL draft as a tight end anyway. And as it turns out, the 6-foot-6, 259-pounder's gamble paid off when the Tennessee Titans traded up 10 spots to draft him in the fifth round.

"Mom, dad and God gave him size, speed and athletic ability," offensive coordinator Chris Palmer said. "For us to get him where we got him, I mean, there's a reason he took 10 visits. It's not like we're the only one that saw the acorn."

Redskins crush on players from Iowa, SMU
Is there something in the water at Iowa and SMU the Washington Redskins know about that the rest of the league doesn't?

The Redskins drafted SMU guard Josh LeRibeus in the third round Friday, then used their seventh-round pick on his teammate, cornerback Richard Crawford. The pattern continued when Washington drafted Iowa guard Adam Gettis in the fifth round, then selected his teammate, defensive back Jordan Bernstine, in the sixth round.

Seriously, what gives?

NFL bloodlines
» Linebacker Jonathan Massaquoi of Troy, drafted in the fifth round by the Falcons, has two cousins in the league: Vikings tight end Visanthe Shiancoe and Cleveland Browns wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi.

» The St. Louis Rams selected running back Daryl Richardson of Abilene Christian with their second pick in the seventh round. Richardson is the brother of Cincinnati Bengals running back Bernard Scott.

» The Tampa Bay Buccaneers selected Northwestern tight end Drake Dunsmore in the seventh round. His father, Pat, played tight end for the Chicago Bears.

» The Bengals took Ohio State running back Dan "Boom" Herron with their sixth-round pick. His brother, David, played for the Kansas City Chiefs last season and now is with the New Orleans Saints.

» The Cleveland Browns selected Texas linebacker Emmanuel Acho in the sixth round. Acho's brother, Sam, plays for the Arizona Cardinals.

» The Tennessee Titans took Clemson cornerback Coty Sensabaugh in the fourth round. His cousin, Gerald, is a safety for the Dallas Cowboys.

» The New Orleans Saints spent a fourth-round pick (No. 122) on former Wisconsin WR Nick Toon, the son of former Jets speedster Al Toon. The younger Toon tweeted Saturday that he plans to wear jersey No. 88, the same number his father wore.

» The Minnesota Vikings drafted USC tight end/fullback Rhett Ellison with the 128th overall selection. Ellison's father, Riki Ellison, played on two Super Bowl-winning teams with the San Francisco 49ers during a 10-year NFL career as a linebacker.

 

[drd23]

Im sure there are more bloodlines connections in the draft than that.

Hell, there are 2 on the Ravens that weren't mentioned in what GG posted:

1) Ravens DT Art Jones is the brother of Pats draftee Chandler Jones and UFC Champ Jon "Bones" Jones

2) OG/C Gino Gradkowski from Delaware, the #98 pick in the draft, is the brother of QB Bruce Gradkowski

 

[Exe Gesis]

Love that Jones bloodline

Obviously, the thinking is Stafford is injury-prone...

Boise State coach Chris Petersen, who consulted with Moore as the 2012 NFL Draft wound down and the quarterback wasn't chosen, said the player and his agent "had narrowed it down to two or three different places" where he wanted to play at that point.

"After talking to those guys, they felt very confident that (Detroit) was his best opportunity to play in the NFL," Petersen said.

 

[Sven]

Pretty happy with the Vikings draft except matbe taking a FB (Rhett Ellison) in the 4th. The Vikings have 4 FBs on the roster and will be lucky to start the season with one.

The team had a bet each way at WR and CB, taking two players at each position. I would have loved the draft more if they traded up into the bottom of the 3rd round to take Rueben Randle, but maybe they weren't that high on him.

The Vikes took a kicker in the 6th round, and that may see Ryan Longwell being cut later in the year.

ILB was very thin in the draft and the Vikings lost any chance of taking a decent ILB when they traded up to take S Harrison Smith late in the 1st round. Maybe the team convinces E.J. Henderson to sign a one year Contract or move Everson Griffen to OLB and Erin Henderson moves inside. Only time will tell on that one.

The Vikings did nothing about the DL until their very last pick, although they did pick up a bunch of DL from the undrafted pack.

I would say there's a strong chance that the Vikings will be looking at DT and ILB early in next year's draft.....

 

[MarcusP2]

Or they think Detroit is going to flog some teams and he will get cleanup duty.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Interesting to note...

The Raiders first UDFA signing was punter Marquette King, who can reportedly punt it 70-80 yards + great hang time. Thing is, they signed him to a 3-year contract. That surely hints that Reggie will continue to correct the "out of whack" salaries in the team.

I couldn't be bothered looking up the numbers, but I am sure Lechler, Janikowski and Condo are all getting paid very well compared to other specialists. I think Lechler for now could be a trade possibility soon given this 3-year signing of a punter.

Gradually phasing them out, replacing them with newer cheaper versions. Just hope Reggie replaces Janikowski with a 'version 2', someone who can kick it 75 yards.

Marquette King punting highlights...

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And another video of him:
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...k-off-undrafted-free-agency-by-signing-punter

The reason they were so impressed was because he was constantly booming 70 and 80 yard punts on the sidelines of the practice, which were recorded at over 5.6 seconds hangtime. That is a pretty amazing statistic. This year alone Marquette has punted an 80 yarder against Bethune Cookman – University and a 76 yard punt against Clark Atlanta. These punts are not a fluke; this kid can do it, over and over again.

Marquette King might be the most special punter coming out of college since Shane Lechler of Oakland in 2000… This year alone [King] has hit two bombs over 75 yards and they were in the air the complete time.

 

[Starburns_]

Can someone work out who it is?

click link to see some tweets

If we weren't provided those other details I'd have said Jeremy Shockey.

 

[Exe Gesis]

haha pay that.