Autopsy 2016 Brownlow Medal - Winner: P. Dangerfield

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Dangerfield makes Will Langford look like a clay target shooting expert, Langford hits targets more often

To be fair, there's a lot more time in the VFL to execute your skills.

 

[PhatBoy]

In all honesty if someone said to me 'based on everyone's form in 2016 who would you pick first for a team', I'm still picking dangerfield.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Danger needs a geography lesson. Geelong to Byron bay and Adelaide to Byron bay wouldn't be a massive amount of difference in time tbh

Perhaps you need one. Byron double the distance of Adelaide.

 

[Crows4Eva]

Happy for him, deserved it after a great year. There's too much bitterness from some Crows supporters which I guess is understandable.

It's tough to see a player who just left win a Brownlow, especially when said player leaving has left such a huge hole in the side which ultimately became the weakness that possibly has cost us a premiership.

But you have to move on and applaud what he has achieved. Even if it stings a little.

 

[Sttew]

Happy for him, deserved it after a great year. There's too much bitterness from some Crows supporters which I guess is understandable.

It's tough to see a player who just left win a Brownlow, especially when said player leaving has left such a huge hole in the side which ultimately became the weakness that possibly has cost us a premiership.

But you have to move on and applaud what he has achieved. Even if it stings a little.

Crows may have the last laugh, a bit like WCE with Josh Kennedy. Long after Judd has retired, Kennedy will still be kicking goals

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Perhaps you need one. Byron double the distance of Adelaide.

I meant from Adelaide lol

21hr drive from Adelaide
18hr drive from Geelong

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I meant from Adelaide lol

21hr drive from Adelaide
18hr drive from Geelong

Yep, I just re-read your original post. Seems my comprehension skills weren't too good.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Yep, I just re-read your original post. Seems my comprehension skills weren't too good.

All good regardless you guys have now got a dynamite player. Love the way danger goes about it

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Dangerfield - a poor man's Fyfe. Really looking forward to the return of the king next year!

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Highlight for me was Gawns reaction to only getting two votes vs Hawthorn.

He deserved 5 votes for that game. Easily the best performance from a player all year.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

I'm not watching his speech but after watching him do a lot of geelong media and general media this season I simply have no idea, other than tall poppy syndrome, why he cops it so much. Plays bloody hard but not dirty, speaks intelligently, speaks respectfully of both clubs he's played for and generally brushes off some of the over the top things that are said and written about regarding his football.

So what if he surfed in a f***ing suit - it was a TV promo ffs, not a documentary.

I liked him at Adelaide and I like him at my club. Listening to apparent body language professionals try and claim he is some sort of head-up-own-rectum love job isn't going to alter that.

I have no idea why anyone wouldn't like Dangerfield. He's been one of my favorite players for years now. He's an absolute gun and seems like a class act all the way.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Why wasn't Parker rubbed out for that KO elbow on the Saints player late in the season? Nearly took the poor blokes head off!

 

[nobbyiscool]

I have no idea why anyone wouldn't like Dangerfield. He's been one of my favorite players for years now. He's an absolute gun and seems like a class act all the way.

It's tall poppy syndrome dude, I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about it.

It's particularly ugly when people want to demonise him for being nothing other than a family man who enjoys the simple pleasures in life (like surfing and fishing), who just happens to be ******* good at footy as well.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

One day there'll be headlines about Bruce and we'll all realise we should've seen it coming.

It's been obvious to me for years now.

 

[NewMelbournian]

If Dangerfield and Parker swapped places Parker would win the Brownlow. It is in effect a midfielders award and a huge aspect that goes unnoticed is if you have teammates good enough to take votes from you. Danger has basically nobody except Selwood. Look at the respective top 5:

35 - Patrick Dangerfield
18 - Joel Selwood
8 - Corey Enright
6 - Steven Motlop
3 - Cameron Guthrie

26 - Luke Parker
21 - Dan Hannebery
17 - Lance Franklin
14 - Josh Kennedy
12 - Tom Mitchell

The way to win the award is to be on a team good enough to win more games than they lose, but not so good that you have too many players capable of taking your votes. Geelong is in the perfect sweet spot. So was Fremantle last year. Of course Ablett is the exception that proves the rule because he is an other worldy talent but when it's mere mortals competing for it comes down to having good but not great teammates.

 

[PhatBoy]

If Dangerfield and Parker swapped places Parker would win the Brownlow. It is in effect a midfielders award and a huge aspect that goes unnoticed is if you have teammates good enough to take votes from you. Danger has basically nobody except Selwood. Look at the respective top 5:

35 - Patrick Dangerfield
18 - Joel Selwood
8 - Corey Enright
6 - Steven Motlop
3 - Cameron Guthrie

26 - Luke Parker
21 - Dan Hannebery
17 - Lance Franklin
14 - Josh Kennedy
12 - Tom Mitchell

The way to win the award is to be on a team good enough to win more games than they lose, but not so good that you have too many players capable of taking your votes. Geelong is in the perfect sweet spot. So was Fremantle last year. Of course Ablett is the exception that proves the rule because he is an other worldy talent but when it's mere mortals competing for it comes down to having good but not great teammates.

So how did Bartel win it?
Swan?
Judd?
Cousins?

Maybe this year lines up with your analysis but it's pretty hard to make a case that it is a rule of thumb.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

If Dangerfield and Parker swapped places Parker would win the Brownlow. It is in effect a midfielders award and a huge aspect that goes unnoticed is if you have teammates good enough to take votes from you. Danger has basically nobody except Selwood. Look at the respective top 5:

35 - Patrick Dangerfield
18 - Joel Selwood
8 - Corey Enright
6 - Steven Motlop
3 - Cameron Guthrie

26 - Luke Parker
21 - Dan Hannebery
17 - Lance Franklin
14 - Josh Kennedy
12 - Tom Mitchell

The way to win the award is to be on a team good enough to win more games than they lose, but not so good that you have too many players capable of taking your votes. Geelong is in the perfect sweet spot. So was Fremantle last year. Of course Ablett is the exception that proves the rule because he is an other worldy talent but when it's mere mortals competing for it comes down to having good but not great teammates.

Judd 2010 says gday. If Danger got Geelong to a prelim all on his own then wow what a player.

 

[Coaster2012]

When was the last time a player won every award possible? (of course excluding norm smith, coleman etc)

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

If Dangerfield and Parker swapped places Parker would win the Brownlow. It is in effect a midfielders award and a huge aspect that goes unnoticed is if you have teammates good enough to take votes from you. Danger has basically nobody except Selwood. Look at the respective top 5:

35 - Patrick Dangerfield
18 - Joel Selwood
8 - Corey Enright
6 - Steven Motlop
3 - Cameron Guthrie

26 - Luke Parker
21 - Dan Hannebery
17 - Lance Franklin
14 - Josh Kennedy
12 - Tom Mitchell

The way to win the award is to be on a team good enough to win more games than they lose, but not so good that you have too many players capable of taking your votes. Geelong is in the perfect sweet spot. So was Fremantle last year. Of course Ablett is the exception that proves the rule because he is an other worldy talent but when it's mere mortals competing for it comes down to having good but not great teammates.

Bartel and Ablett's first sort of kills that argument.

 

[PhatBoy]

When was the last time a player won every award possible? (of course excluding norm smith, coleman etc)

You would have to go all the way back to 2015 when Fyfe won them all I'm guessing.

 

[Sttew]

I have no idea why anyone wouldn't like Dangerfield. He's been one of my favorite players for years now. He's an absolute gun and seems like a class act all the way.

Tall poppy syndrome - people just have to cut champions and heroes down to feel better.

 

[DangerSloane]

Tall poppy syndrome - people just have to cut champions and heroes down to feel better.

And before he joined Geelong you probably did exactly that.

 

[Sttew]

And before he joined Geelong you probably did exactly that.

Prove it! I doubt I ever commented on Danger before he joined Geelong.

 

[Coaster2012]

You would have to go all the way back to 2015 when Fyfe won them all I'm guessing.

Hannebery won the AFL Coaches Association Award last season. But nice try.

 

[PhatBoy]

Hannebery won the AFL Coaches Association Award last season. But nice try.

Nice try at what? I didn't even qualify it as fact - hence the phrase "I'm guessing"