List Mgmt. 2016 Potential Draft Picks

[Andre]

There are rumours that Brodie has been pretty vocal to clubs in his desire to stay in Victoria. So the only way I see him falling to our pick is if he's told a bunch of clubs he's out the door after one contract and he falls past Carlton and North.

It's remotely plausible.

If this is true then he should be pulled up for draft tampering. Although I could see the A(V)FL letting it go. A Chad type situation of telling one club (GWS) is bad enough, multiple clubs shouldn't be acceptable. A suitable punishment is a fine, with a 6 month ban suspended, that activates within 5 years if he's drafted to a non-Vic club and then goes home.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Brodie would be picked at 13 before he slid to 14. Any 'slider' will be grabbed by the crows.

 

[shewho]

And I couldn't care less if Brodie wants to live in Melbourne. He would walk into our 22 and after 2 years, making mates with our boys, playing finals with our boys, going to the fringe festival, Clipsal, playing on AO in front of 45,000 of the loudest supporters in the country, hearing NTUA before each home game, meeting a bunch of Adelaide girls and not spending half his day in traffic, I back that he would end up a long term player for us. Adelaide gets such bad publicity in Melbourne, draftees are pleasantly surprised when they actually arrive.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

And I couldn't care less if Brodie wants to live in Melbourne. He would walk into our 22 and after 2 years, making mates with our boys, playing finals with our boys, going to the fringe festival, Clipsal, playing on AO in front of 45,000 of the loudest supporters in the country, hearing NTUA before each home game, meeting a bunch of Adelaide girls and not spending half his day in traffic, I back that he would end up a long term player for us. Adelaide gets such bad publicity in Melbourne, draftees are pleasantly surprised when they actually arrive.

True, but if no Victorian clubs take him then he can get all of the above experiences from the franchise that picks at 13.

Of course he doesn't get to have the experience of playing for an authentic football club but he can still go to the Clipsal.

 

[Peck]

Brodie dropping out of the top 10 will make our list managers look like idiots. The gamble they took trading down from 9 to 14 will end with eggs on faces if there is a slider out of the top rung- McGrath, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Taranto, Brodie or SPS.

I can accept risk on Scrimshaw, Marshall, English, Logue the academy boys and the other mids, but to lose out on one of those six to get another pick from the next rung down, is a massive fail. I feel for the guys we take at 14 and 17 too, because if there is a slider we miss out on, they will constantly be compared to that guy. Our trading down tactic is a massive risk so let's hope our recruiters knew what they were doing and knew there would be no sliders from this 6.

If he goes at 13 he is probably worth pick 13, not pick 9.

Wouldn't the only reason players slide is if they don't fill a need clubs want, or they aren't worth as much as punters thought.

If a player like Brodie slides from pick 5 to pick 13 I'd be thinking it was due to the latter.

 

[Popielnicki]

The whisper of Essendon bidding on Setterfield at 1 is growing stronger

 

[Jimmy Unchained]

If this is true then he should be pulled up for draft tampering. Although I could see the A(V)FL letting it go. A Chad type situation of telling one club (GWS) is bad enough, multiple clubs shouldn't be acceptable. A suitable punishment is a fine, with a 6 month ban suspended, that activates within 5 years if he's drafted to a non-Vic club and then goes home.

This is an excerpt from Chris Judd's Autobiography, Chris Judd: Inside

"As a top draft pick, of course I wanted to try to exert some influence over where I went to play. But I didn't want to come across as a blonk, either. I just wanted to make clear that my preference was to stay in Melbourne. The Eagles officials turned up and said they were going to take me at No. 3. When they left, I got my manager, Paul Connors, onto the offensive. He rang the Eagles to say that they could take me, but they needed to know that I would be going home after two years and that they should think really carefully. This is standard stuff. Clubs know that it is pretty much an empty threat. But if there was even an inkling of doubt on their part, I felt we needed to expose it."

In my eyes, its standard protocol, if the clubs want to back in their programs to get them to stay, good luck to them. I'd much rather an up front conversation than a sneak out the door after 2 years. Lets not forget that they're kids and regardless of the amount of money they get offered they still have free will.

 

[missionpossible]

Some one asked about the sa kids.

I have 0 in my top 20.
4 in the 21 to 40 range. Villis was in this range but i have removed him from my ratings.
4 in the next 15.
I can only make an arguement for hayward to be top 20.
An average SA crop.
No elite top end but the mid rangers are generally undervalued on bigfooty. It will be interestin how the draft falls.

 

[Chachi]

Brodie would be picked at 13 before he slid to 14. Any 'slider' will be grabbed by the crows.

I reckon Sydney/North will be beneficiary of a slider.

 

[Andre]

Brodie would be picked at 13 before he slid to 14. Any 'slider' will be grabbed by the crows.

Yep. Their need for a genuine midfielder is even greater than ours. Lost Dangerfield and papered over it for one season with a 1 in 30 year injury run and then have lost Lyons and a slowing Thompson a year older again. The only way Brodie slips past them at 13 is if he's one of two sliders and they grab the other. The rage that will occur if he gets grabbed by them will be making Parker have nightmares up until draft day.

 

[Lockhart Road]

There are rumours that Brodie has been pretty vocal to clubs in his desire to stay in Victoria. So the only way I see him falling to our pick is if he's told a bunch of clubs he's out the door after one contract and he falls past Carlton and North.

It's remotely plausible.

I've heard that, too. Hope the Crows pick him up.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I've heard that, too. Hope the Crows pick him up.

Well if crers pick him up he will definitely want to return home. Their record at retention is atrocious.

 

[Nemisis]

Brodie dropping out of the top 10 will make our list managers look like idiots. The gamble they took trading down from 9 to 14 will end with eggs on faces if there is a slider out of the top rung- McGrath, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Taranto, Brodie or SPS.

I can accept risk on Scrimshaw, Marshall, English, Logue the academy boys and the other mids, but to lose out on one of those six to get another pick from the next rung down, is a massive fail. I feel for the guys we take at 14 and 17 too, because if there is a slider we miss out on, they will constantly be compared to that guy. Our trading down tactic is a massive risk so let's hope our recruiters knew what they were doing and knew there would be no sliders from this 6.

Exactly - I know the Crows pulled off coup when they traded down and landed whatshisname but if Brodie goes at 9 I will upset but realistically Brodie will go top 5.

 

[SureBuddy]

Yep. Their need for a genuine midfielder is even greater than ours. Lost Dangerfield and papered over it for one season with a 1 in 30 year injury run and then have lost Lyons and a slowing Thompson a year older again. The only way Brodie slips past them at 13 is if he's one of two sliders and they grab the other. The rage that will occur if he gets grabbed by them will be making Parker have nightmares up until draft day.

They need speed and outside run in the midfield, not inside grunt. They have that in spades.

 

[scottjr]

The Crows midfield is molasses. If Brodie is there they will spew at having to make that call but they would pick him up. The wanting to stay in Victoria is crap and Brodie will go early.

 

[Yoda_]

I read Todd Marshall's draft profile in Inside Football's Draft special and it starts off with;
"Todd burst onto the scene not being involved in any football program because he was a cricketer. On natural ability there is probably none better in the TAC Cup........"
Bushrangers talent manager Lee Fraser.

Marshall has grown on me the last month watching his footage, reading about his exploits and seeing in many phantom drafts he will be available around our #14 and #17 pick. After reading the above yesterday, I remembered something my mate D_One wrote back in late 2012, after we got smashed again, think the game before the draw against Richmond in the final game, and he was bemoaning the quality of our list and our recruiters and their strategies.

Our last two recruiting managers came from a cricketing back ground. We now have a very diverse and potent bowling attack and we bat down to number nine.

Maybe ex cricketer Parker has taken a shine to him as well.

Dont blame you bud. We are sniffing around at 20 but with the recruitment of Stewart (for pick 88) and the possible recruitment of X.Richards as a DFA we may not have a need for him. Would be so much easier if he were taken before our pick 20. No hindsight drafting in 5 years.

 

[mic59]

Cowvertiser certainly writing up Will Hayward. Although what they write doesn't necessarily reflect what the list managers and coaches think.

 

[PJ Power]

There's a bit of talk on the main Drafting Board that we are into Battle, and possibly as early as our first two picks.

On the weight of people's views here, I get the strong sense that most would see this as a mistake.

I hope our recruiters get this right. They have four good picks and it would not be unreasonable to expect us to at least replicate the success of the 2006 draft, and better our performance in the 2008 draft. Four players of high quality who improve our list and have durable and successful careers.

I don't think there's any need for speculative players with our first two picks. I know that people see the huge upside in Marshall, but I favour us nailing two very good midfielders with those selections. Berry, Powell-Pepper, Venables and Simpkin have all got qualities that I like. Hayward too if he slips that far.

Then Atley, Clarke, Drew, Scharenburg, even Galluci could be around the mark at 30 and 31.

Build our future midfield in this one draft.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

I don't think Battle is speculative really.

People weight testing results too much. The dude kicks goals, and has kicked goals.

With 4 picks, we wont neglect the midfield.

 

[Powerade 08]

There's a bit of talk on the main Drafting Board that we are into Battle, and possibly as early as our first two picks.

Battle might be there in the rookie draft. With his testing and clubs telling him he's too one dimensional he definitely won't be going top 30.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

If this is true then he should be pulled up for draft tampering. Although I could see the A(V)FL letting it go. A Chad type situation of telling one club (GWS) is bad enough, multiple clubs shouldn't be acceptable. A suitable punishment is a fine, with a 6 month ban suspended, that activates within 5 years if he's drafted to a non-Vic club and then goes home.

Sounds similar to the Brett Chalmers situation many years ago. And restrictions should be even more strongly policed these days.

 

[DaTBird187]

Sounds similar to the Brett Chalmers situation many years ago. And restrictions should be even more strongly policed these days.

Ha, I think most players are more subtle than Brett was.

 

[Macca19]

Battle will definitely be drafted, but i'd say theres a lot of risk he won't make it.

Then again, as Zakk says, he's performed well all year and just continues to play good football.

 

[CharlieKelly]

Listening to the AFL.com.au podcast with Callum Twomey, Nat Edwards and Mick Ablett, they've done a top 30 mock draft...

1. Essendon - Hugh McLuggage
2. GWS - Andrew McGrath
3. Gold Coast (bid) - Jack Bowes
4. Brisbane - Ben Ainsworth
5. GWS (bid) - Will Setterfield
6. Carlton - Sam Petrevski-Seton
7. Gold Coast - Will Brodie
8. Fremantle - Griffin Logue
9. Gold Coast - Tim Taranto
10. Sydney - Jy Simpkin
11. Gold Coast - Tim English
12. GWS (bid) - Harry Perryman
13. North Melbourne - Jack Scrimshaw
14. West Coast - Jarrod Berry
15. Adelaide - Will Hayward
16. Port Adelaide - Josh Battle
17. Brisbane - Oliver Florent
18. Port Adelaide - Alex Witherden
19. Western Bulldogs - Todd Marshall
20. Sydney - Jordan Galluci
21. Essendon - Sam Powell-Pepper
22. Brisbane - Daniel Venables
23. Brisbane - Brennan Cox
24. St. Kilda - Shai Bolton
25. Geelong - Cedric Cox
26. Carlton - Patrick Kerr
27. GWS (bid) - Isaac Cumming
28. Western Bulldogs - Jordan Ridley
29. Richmond (no GWS bid) - Kobie Mutch
30. Collingwood - Sam Walker

if this is how the draft pans out, Essendon have pick 31, we'd have picks 32 and 33

 

[Chizza12]

Battle will definitely be drafted, but i'd say theres a lot of risk he won't make it.

Then again, as Zakk says, he's performed well all year and just continues to play good football.

The question for me, is he a key forward? The consensus is that he's a 3rd tall type, is that really what we want? Having said that, I can see him being very effective as a Tom Lynch (Adelaide variety) type forward where he works up and down the ground as a link man and kicks 30 goals a year.