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Matt Hass left us last year and our injury list has never looked better
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It is always hard to tell from the outside but I don't know that too many of us were displeased when Burton left. Purely in terms of results, we had an awful lot of injuries during his time at the club, albeit that I think the number of soft tissue injuries seemed to decline over time.
Could be just coincidence but our injury list looks a lot healthier than it has ever been. We have a full squad of listed players in the reserves instead of relying on top up players. Amazing how bad our injury list was when Burton and Hass were at the club.
Thanks for the feedback. A bit concerning. We had basically no injuries last year and we are averaging a couple a week this year. Some bad luck but the hammies are a worry. And just when we get the side firing on all cylinders.
To be fair, hammies weren't our injury of choice during the Hass era. We preferred knee recos, hips, shoulders, calves and back injuries. Rocky might have had one or two, but I can't think of a lot of hamstrings.
On the flip side, don't remember too many 'big loss' grumbles when Hass resigned.
On the flip side, don't remember too many 'big loss' grumbles when Hass resigned.
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What will be interesting, is how they recover. Anyone can cop an injury (preparation will affect how many) but getting those blokes back up & about always seemed to be an issue. Recurrence of injuries, often during rehab, made matters worse.
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I'm led to believe that Burton can be quite the poisonous agent in football department politics.
Care to expand? Sounds like we had a lot of chefs in the kitchen last few years and Leppa seemed to be happy not to listen to any of them. So glad we now have Fagan and Noble stirring the ship.
A terrific article and video with Fagan about Hippy and the team in general on the HUN site..
The more I hear Fagan talk, the more impressed I am....seems to be one of those people you could listen to all day, and I can understand why he would relate to and with the players.
The more I hear Fagan talk, the more impressed I am....seems to be one of those people you could listen to all day, and I can understand why he would relate to and with the players.
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Excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse. I've had enough of your ******* excuses, Fagan.
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I'd prefer them steering the ship, tbh.
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Can we keep him in steerage?
Really good article about Chris Fagan from Andrew Stafford.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...t-brisbane-back-on-track-20170511-gw2960.html
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...t-brisbane-back-on-track-20170511-gw2960.html
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Good article.
"It's a process that you keep going through. Win, lose or draw, you can always learn something. It's about continuous learning and finding people who want to jump on that bus with you, and letting go of the ones that don't."
Slowly looking like he has lost one and might have to let go?
Yep. Stafford writes some good sensible articles re the lions, maybe he could take the man of Steele's place.
Hopefully the players that jump off the bus over the next couple of years end up in the same situation as Nathan Buckley when he went to the pies because he wanted to win premierships.
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In Fagan we trust.
Not sure if this has been brought up recently but have we employed the services of a full time sports psychologist yet? Surely if not, then this would be something worth exploring to give players some skills to help internally process their personal expectations and get out of ruts mid-game faster.
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If we don't improve under this guy then there is something seriously wrong.
Fagan uses flight home from Tasmania to educate players after loss to Hawthorn
Greg Davis, The Courier-Mail
May 18, 2017 10:48am
FLIGHT VA1640 is hurtling from Launceston to Brisbane.
And Lions senior coach Chris Fagan is working the cabin.
Brisbane have just suffered a 38-point loss to his old club Hawthorn hours earlier and he is wasting no time preparing for this Saturday’s clash with Adelaide at the Gabba.
The plane is half full so there’s plenty of spare seats.
STAR MIDFIELDER: LIONS, ROCKLIFF IN NO RUSH FOR NEW DEAL
YOUNG FORWARD: SCHACHE SET TO DECIDE FUTURE BY BYE
INJURY NEWS: WILL BEAMS REPLACE ROCKLIFF?
Fagan takes the opportunity to sit next to as many players as possible and have a chat. It’s not a lecture but it’s not totally social either. The players listen intently as he looks them square in the eyes, with hand gestures to ram home his point.
Every game, every mistake is a teaching opportunity for Fagan, not an opportunity to berate or humiliate.
He was frustrated by some dumb decision-making against the Hawks that gift-wrapped goals to Hawthorn but was far more proud of the way his side “battled manfully’’ after a six-day break between two road trips.
Brisbane coach Chris Fagan talks to his players.
The Brisbane backline kept Hawthorn’s forward stars Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead and Jack Gunston to just four goals combined but got torched by Hawthorn’s lesser lights and midfielders who streamed forward off the back of Lions’ mistakes.
After a brief talk with every player he can get to, Fagan resumes his seat for the remainder of the journey.
The first two months of his senior coaching career after a lifetime in football have had some turbulent moments.
Brisbane are on a seven-game losing streak and sit on the bottom of the ladder.
The stark reality confronting Fagan and his men is that they have played much better football in 2017 - compared to the last two seasons - but could very well finish lower on the ladder and claim the wooden spoon.
Essendon has got better. So has Carlton. Maybe the wildly inconsistent Collingwood in Round 10 is a good chance of a breakthrough win?
Chris Fagan looks on before the Lions clash against the Western Bulldogs.
Cast your eyes to Brisbane’s fixture and there are not too many games where you think they will be a red-hot chance.
After the Crows, the Lions face the Pies at the MCG then have the bye.
After the bye their opponents are: Fremantle, Port Adelaide, GWS, Essendon, Geelong, Richmond, Carlton, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast and Melbourne.
The Lions players are providing effort most weeks. In previous years, they lose that game to Hawthorn by 100 points, not 38.
But at some stage they need to get some evidence that the effort is working.
They need some reward for the really hard work that is winning a game of AFL football.
The first half against the Bulldogs was as breathtaking as the efforts against Richmond and Port Adelaide were bitterly disappointing.
It is going to be a wild ride for the one-time high flyer that helped the Hawks to four flags in nine years in a variety of high-powered football department roles.
But the one thing Fagan will not do is panic. He won’t be reaching for the parachute any time soon.
He will keep quietly working his way through the cabin.
Fagan uses flight home from Tasmania to educate players after loss to Hawthorn
Greg Davis, The Courier-Mail
May 18, 2017 10:48am
FLIGHT VA1640 is hurtling from Launceston to Brisbane.
And Lions senior coach Chris Fagan is working the cabin.
Brisbane have just suffered a 38-point loss to his old club Hawthorn hours earlier and he is wasting no time preparing for this Saturday’s clash with Adelaide at the Gabba.
The plane is half full so there’s plenty of spare seats.
STAR MIDFIELDER: LIONS, ROCKLIFF IN NO RUSH FOR NEW DEAL
YOUNG FORWARD: SCHACHE SET TO DECIDE FUTURE BY BYE
INJURY NEWS: WILL BEAMS REPLACE ROCKLIFF?
Fagan takes the opportunity to sit next to as many players as possible and have a chat. It’s not a lecture but it’s not totally social either. The players listen intently as he looks them square in the eyes, with hand gestures to ram home his point.
Every game, every mistake is a teaching opportunity for Fagan, not an opportunity to berate or humiliate.
He was frustrated by some dumb decision-making against the Hawks that gift-wrapped goals to Hawthorn but was far more proud of the way his side “battled manfully’’ after a six-day break between two road trips.
Brisbane coach Chris Fagan talks to his players.
The Brisbane backline kept Hawthorn’s forward stars Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead and Jack Gunston to just four goals combined but got torched by Hawthorn’s lesser lights and midfielders who streamed forward off the back of Lions’ mistakes.
After a brief talk with every player he can get to, Fagan resumes his seat for the remainder of the journey.
The first two months of his senior coaching career after a lifetime in football have had some turbulent moments.
Brisbane are on a seven-game losing streak and sit on the bottom of the ladder.
The stark reality confronting Fagan and his men is that they have played much better football in 2017 - compared to the last two seasons - but could very well finish lower on the ladder and claim the wooden spoon.
Essendon has got better. So has Carlton. Maybe the wildly inconsistent Collingwood in Round 10 is a good chance of a breakthrough win?
Chris Fagan looks on before the Lions clash against the Western Bulldogs.
Cast your eyes to Brisbane’s fixture and there are not too many games where you think they will be a red-hot chance.
After the Crows, the Lions face the Pies at the MCG then have the bye.
After the bye their opponents are: Fremantle, Port Adelaide, GWS, Essendon, Geelong, Richmond, Carlton, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast and Melbourne.
The Lions players are providing effort most weeks. In previous years, they lose that game to Hawthorn by 100 points, not 38.
But at some stage they need to get some evidence that the effort is working.
They need some reward for the really hard work that is winning a game of AFL football.
The first half against the Bulldogs was as breathtaking as the efforts against Richmond and Port Adelaide were bitterly disappointing.
It is going to be a wild ride for the one-time high flyer that helped the Hawks to four flags in nine years in a variety of high-powered football department roles.
But the one thing Fagan will not do is panic. He won’t be reaching for the parachute any time soon.
He will keep quietly working his way through the cabin.
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Greg Swann on SEN.
On the proposed changes to the player free agency rules-
These proposed changes were not bought up at the recent CEOs meeting so all news to us.
Will be bad for us.
We along with the other northern clubs pushed for a minimum 3 year initial contract.
On Josh Schache-
Josh is genuinely still making his mind up.
We were close to a deal earlier in the year but then Josh came back and said he wanted more time and to get into some better form.
Re his break, "Josh looks tired and ummm I don't want to say stressed but yer just looks tired"
I'm really confident he will stay.
On Rocky-
Tom has indicated he wants to stay.
Pretty clear we are not happy about the changes to free agency. He said what you would expect about Schache. Sounds like Rocky will be staying.
On the proposed changes to the player free agency rules-
These proposed changes were not bought up at the recent CEOs meeting so all news to us.
Will be bad for us.
We along with the other northern clubs pushed for a minimum 3 year initial contract.
On Josh Schache-
Josh is genuinely still making his mind up.
We were close to a deal earlier in the year but then Josh came back and said he wanted more time and to get into some better form.
Re his break, "Josh looks tired and ummm I don't want to say stressed but yer just looks tired"
I'm really confident he will stay.
On Rocky-
Tom has indicated he wants to stay.
Pretty clear we are not happy about the changes to free agency. He said what you would expect about Schache. Sounds like Rocky will be staying.
New Comms GM announces he has started in the role via twitter....
That looks like a very good get by the club. Steele was a huge loss, but this guy looks to have the chops.
