List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread
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No one is singling you out because of your username. Just relax.
If everyone agreed with everyone else, what’s the point of a discussion? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean your opinion isn’t worth sharing.
Get some thicker skin and realize it’s not personal.
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Ask Crusty if my PM is blocked
What have I said that is stirring. He keeps asking Mikka for gossip, I said people get PM's.
If Mikka doesn't want to send you or the other poster PM's why abuse and have a go at me?
Maybe he doesn't like either of you. Not my fault.
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The AFL is all about managing the "evenness" of the competition by implementing various equalisation methodologies. The only thing I don't like about priority is picks is that its up to the club to ask for them.
Its should be an automatic process determined purely by the AFL. Bottom 6 clubs performance are assessed before every draft and the AFL, based on the something like the criteria already established, then awards priority picks.
The picks should at a predetermined spot in the draft (say 7/8/9 in the first round) and could include additional 2nd or 3rd round picks if required.
Lets say this year Gold Coast and St Kilda are the ones assessed as needing PP's. Gold Coast is a basket case so it gets Pick 7, 26, 28 & 46. That's a bit over Pick 1 equivalent in points. Saints assessed as not so bad so gets Pick 8 and 27 which is about pick 3 on points.
Lessens the potential adverse draft impact on the other clubs finishing near the bottom.
Given Carlton has already been given heaps so NO NO NO to them.
Just for the record and to clarify...
The whole "PM" is an ongoing joke in here.
A few years back a poster had some goss that he didn't want to share publicly and told people to PM him for details.
The result was about 10 pages of people requesting a PM.
So it's an old joke and deliberate s**t stir.
Joffa has a block on his PM, hence the sarcasm of requesting people to PM him.
So if anyone needs further explanation, PM him.
The whole "PM" is an ongoing joke in here.
A few years back a poster had some goss that he didn't want to share publicly and told people to PM him for details.
The result was about 10 pages of people requesting a PM.
So it's an old joke and deliberate s**t stir.
Joffa has a block on his PM, hence the sarcasm of requesting people to PM him.
So if anyone needs further explanation, PM him.
Nekminnit AFL gives us band one compo for Newnes...
Dont PM me. I tried that joke on the Crusty one and forgot I had turned it back on.
Full and frank exchange of views exchanged.
Actually shared some intel with each other, like VDS looks great in a grey hoodie etc.
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threatening physical abuse....kind of bullying imo.
Preach it.
Although if we get one it might be hard for them to then deny GC and even possibly Carlton but meh. We need all the help we can get.
2 Rattan's are better than one.
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Doubt very much we will get a priority pick but it was most probably put forward to see if we could get extra cap space due to having contracted players unable to play - I would expect Roberton and McCartin would be close to the million mark , Pierce and Longer were most probably going to be de-listed anyway.
So If we get a allowance to wipe the slate clean there it would give us another chunk of cash to put towards our salary cap space.
It's good they are making the case for the priority pick is great by Leathlean but the uproar will be huge if it occurs.
So If we get a allowance to wipe the slate clean there it would give us another chunk of cash to put towards our salary cap space.
It's good they are making the case for the priority pick is great by Leathlean but the uproar will be huge if it occurs.
Not kind of bullying, very blatant bullying. That was the joke.
I'm not against a PP as such but I will say that Nick Riewoldt would have been a saint regardless… we had the #1 pick, so Kosi was the bonus there.
Take away the pre first round PP's in 2001, then we have pick #2 maybe all of Hodge, Ball or Judd still there.
I do think a first round PP is too much, end of first round is a good area for an extra pick.
I wouldn't complain if we were given an extra top 5 pick, just don't think it's good for the comp long term.
The worst rort of the PP system was Collingwood ending up with picks 2 & 5 in 2005 after playing in a grand final just two years earlier and winning 8 games in 2004.
That one possibly cost us a premiership 5 years later.
That one possibly cost us a premiership 5 years later.
Ah s**t, I never realised how much that impacted us. I remember at the time everybody thought it was a joke and IIRC may have led to the rules being tweaked to poor performances over two years rather than one.
Given that Daisy was Collingwood's best across both finals and Pendlebury got the Norm Smith in the second it really was the difference.
Add it to the list with unlucky bounces, medical treatments being banned too late. We really would have to be the unluckiest team to have missed out on a flag.
In regards to any change of AFL policy with priority picks, the issue of concussion is undoubtedly a growing concern that the league is facing.
HQ have been hot on clubs for any dodgy diagnosis with head knocks for a while now as they're scared stiff of legal action down the track. We're seeing a number of former players make claims that they are suffering debilitating side effects from the concussions that they copped years ago. Hence why we've seen the crack down on accidental head high contact, etc.
The next step is pushing clubs to make early calls on players who have suffered multiple concussions before any permanent damage is caused. An impossible judgement I know.
Without the possibility of replacing a player via an additional draft pick, a club may be adverse to advising a player to retire after continual concussions.
Which is possibly what we have seen with Paddy. His value at the club has made the club go through the process of getting him fit to play, see him cop another hit, another stint on the sidelines and then rinse and repeat. I'm sure they've had his best interests at heart as concussion treatment (and prevention) is still a bit of a mystery in the world of sport.
Maybe (and it is a big maybe), if a club has the availability of a compensation pick in the event of a medically advised retirement then they will be more open to making that hard call on a player (for their own good).
Working out the compensation is the next question. Maybe a pick at the end of the round the player was picked in for a young player under 50 games like Paddy and a formula based on age, accomplishments, etc for older players?
For example;
Paddy- End of 1st Round
Robbo- 2nd round pick after existing 2nd rounder
Longer- 4th round
Pierce- Rookie pick
HQ have been hot on clubs for any dodgy diagnosis with head knocks for a while now as they're scared stiff of legal action down the track. We're seeing a number of former players make claims that they are suffering debilitating side effects from the concussions that they copped years ago. Hence why we've seen the crack down on accidental head high contact, etc.
The next step is pushing clubs to make early calls on players who have suffered multiple concussions before any permanent damage is caused. An impossible judgement I know.
Without the possibility of replacing a player via an additional draft pick, a club may be adverse to advising a player to retire after continual concussions.
Which is possibly what we have seen with Paddy. His value at the club has made the club go through the process of getting him fit to play, see him cop another hit, another stint on the sidelines and then rinse and repeat. I'm sure they've had his best interests at heart as concussion treatment (and prevention) is still a bit of a mystery in the world of sport.
Maybe (and it is a big maybe), if a club has the availability of a compensation pick in the event of a medically advised retirement then they will be more open to making that hard call on a player (for their own good).
Working out the compensation is the next question. Maybe a pick at the end of the round the player was picked in for a young player under 50 games like Paddy and a formula based on age, accomplishments, etc for older players?
For example;
Paddy- End of 1st Round
Robbo- 2nd round pick after existing 2nd rounder
Longer- 4th round
Pierce- Rookie pick
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I think one of the older people on here that remember the 2000 draft said we might've taken kosi with 1 had we not the extra pick, but took roo cause he could handle the title better
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