Could easily be a top 5 pick
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Very speculative. Could also be another teens pick.
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Yep - I think that almost salvaged the draft
Hope the Reef makes it past and pick up hopefully a slider or 2
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Essendon have got Cody Brand (40+) and Josh Eye (50+) in their NGA. Obviously if they don't take one or either in the ND they can take them as a rookie, yes?
Anyone got any idea on how many players they're going to want? One of their picks has to be available...
Anyone got any idea on how many players they're going to want? One of their picks has to be available...
Callow not being mentioned in top 25’s and for the life of me I can’t figure out why. All I’ve heard is he’s already matured compared to others. Same reason Jack Darling slipped to 29 and I’d take him right now.
I’d rather take 2 picks in the teens and Callow then trade it all for McDonald at 2.
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Keep our powder dry for our 2021 1st rounder until draft night.
JUH, Braeden Campbell and Lachie Jones are all likely going in the 1st round. That means the 1st round will finish around pick 24. If Reef gets a bid, on or before the last pick in the 1st round, any deficit comes of our 2021 1st rounder, if we still own it. There's going to be a deficit of some type for Reef, IMO. Tricky situation. A bid after pick 24/the last pick in the 1st round, throws the deficit to our 2nd rounder. That's very risky, IMO.
If we trade our 2021 1st rounder prior to any Reef bid, we can only trade one of our two current 2021 2nd rounders, into this years draft to cover the Reef bid deficit. Not sure if we can trade our 2021 3rd rounder into this years draft due to having two 2021 2nd rounders. If we can't move the 2021 3rd rounder into this years draft, we might as well let the deficit carry forward onto our 2021 2nd rounder, rather then trade one of our two 2021 rounders in to cover the deficit.
If we've already traded our 2021 1st rounder before the Reef bid, the deficit comes off our 2021 2nd rounder. If we've traded our 2021 1st and 2nd rounder, prior to a Reef bid, the deficit should come off our 2021 3rd rounder, much like what happened to Port's deficit this year. I.e. it came from their own 1st pick for 2020, which was a 2nd rounder. Not sure if this is definitely the case.
My preferred option based on Reef likely getting a bid in the 1st round (between 20 -24) and leaving a 350 to 500 point deficit:
1) If we are allowed, trade our 2021 3rd rounder for 2020 pick/s to cover Reef's bid. Possibly Gold Coasts pick 37, Adelaide's picks 56 & 66?? Brisbanes picks 58, 63, 68 & 69, as they may not intend on using them. We can do this before or after Reef's bid. There's no limit of picks this year due the list size details not clear, so clubs can stockpile picks galore like when this whole bidding points index started.
2) If not allowed to do 1), trade one of our two 2021 2nd rounders, for points to cover a Reef bid. Hopefully, enough 2020 points to cover bid and another later 2021 pick. Say Gold Coast pick 37, if they are not going to use it and Gold Coast future 3rd rounder.
3) On draft night, offer our 2021 1st rounder to the club with the next pick in the 1st round. if there's no takers come mid-teens, keep the pick.
JUH, Braeden Campbell and Lachie Jones are all likely going in the 1st round. That means the 1st round will finish around pick 24. If Reef gets a bid, on or before the last pick in the 1st round, any deficit comes of our 2021 1st rounder, if we still own it. There's going to be a deficit of some type for Reef, IMO. Tricky situation. A bid after pick 24/the last pick in the 1st round, throws the deficit to our 2nd rounder. That's very risky, IMO.
If we trade our 2021 1st rounder prior to any Reef bid, we can only trade one of our two current 2021 2nd rounders, into this years draft to cover the Reef bid deficit. Not sure if we can trade our 2021 3rd rounder into this years draft due to having two 2021 2nd rounders. If we can't move the 2021 3rd rounder into this years draft, we might as well let the deficit carry forward onto our 2021 2nd rounder, rather then trade one of our two 2021 rounders in to cover the deficit.
If we've already traded our 2021 1st rounder before the Reef bid, the deficit comes off our 2021 2nd rounder. If we've traded our 2021 1st and 2nd rounder, prior to a Reef bid, the deficit should come off our 2021 3rd rounder, much like what happened to Port's deficit this year. I.e. it came from their own 1st pick for 2020, which was a 2nd rounder. Not sure if this is definitely the case.
My preferred option based on Reef likely getting a bid in the 1st round (between 20 -24) and leaving a 350 to 500 point deficit:
1) If we are allowed, trade our 2021 3rd rounder for 2020 pick/s to cover Reef's bid. Possibly Gold Coasts pick 37, Adelaide's picks 56 & 66?? Brisbanes picks 58, 63, 68 & 69, as they may not intend on using them. We can do this before or after Reef's bid. There's no limit of picks this year due the list size details not clear, so clubs can stockpile picks galore like when this whole bidding points index started.
2) If not allowed to do 1), trade one of our two 2021 2nd rounders, for points to cover a Reef bid. Hopefully, enough 2020 points to cover bid and another later 2021 pick. Say Gold Coast pick 37, if they are not going to use it and Gold Coast future 3rd rounder.
3) On draft night, offer our 2021 1st rounder to the club with the next pick in the 1st round. if there's no takers come mid-teens, keep the pick.
My biggest concern with us trading next years first is the club undervaluing it. It could easily be anywhere between 5-10 based on form, player movement and the additions other clubs have made to their lists.
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If we move way up in the Draft what does that mean for Reef?
Yep understand that concern. I'm looking more at the likelihood. We've lost a few and will get back better than we lost, IMO.
I'm still expecting us to push for the 8. We'd have to finish in the bottom 5, possibly bottom 3, for the trading of 2021 1st rounder to bite us, IMO. Otherwise it's just a missed opportunity to recruit another 1st round talent in 2020 or delaying selecting that 1st round talent until 2022. Trading our 2021 first into 2022, next year, will be a bit trickier. I think the market this year will be better, given the lack of footage of Vic U'18's.
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Arm in a splint, will fit in well at the 'pies.
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Final draft order: Your club's picks for the 2020 NAB AFL Draft
The final draft order is set ahead of the 2020 NAB AFL Draft
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Really rate him. Love us to draft him
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I reckon my arm would end up in a sling if I attempted that.
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Needs:
Key Forward x2
small forward x2
balanced mid
What we don't need:
Ruckman
mid size defender
Key Forward x2
small forward x2
balanced mid
What we don't need:
Ruckman
mid size defender
I think we would be mad to trade our future first plus this year's picks to get pick 2.
Jeremy cameron cost geelong 3 picks between 13 to 20. So in essence we would be paying as much (maybe more if we have a bad 2021,) for an untried kid as geelong did for Jeremy cameron. Way more if you consider what it cost to get pick 14
If you want to go for something like that...just try to poach logan mcdonald in 2 years time when he is already a bit developed and pay the same price. At least we know how good he is by then.
For me, I'm liking the idea of Cook and Callow with 14 and 16. One adds some spark and one could project as a Darling type key forward. Then get Reef. Obviously if we feel a bid is coming for reef earlier, then I would consider trading 14 + 16 for a 8 + 2nd rounder so we get a higher end talent and have points for Reef.
Jeremy cameron cost geelong 3 picks between 13 to 20. So in essence we would be paying as much (maybe more if we have a bad 2021,) for an untried kid as geelong did for Jeremy cameron. Way more if you consider what it cost to get pick 14
If you want to go for something like that...just try to poach logan mcdonald in 2 years time when he is already a bit developed and pay the same price. At least we know how good he is by then.
For me, I'm liking the idea of Cook and Callow with 14 and 16. One adds some spark and one could project as a Darling type key forward. Then get Reef. Obviously if we feel a bid is coming for reef earlier, then I would consider trading 14 + 16 for a 8 + 2nd rounder so we get a higher end talent and have points for Reef.
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I think we need a key defender as well so maybe one of those KPFs needs the ability to play at either end. Definitely one as a pure key forward though.
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Agreed. Although there isn’t much talk of Callow going that high. I still want him though.
If we moved a future first in and could do something like Cook and Cox followed by Callow and Reef I’d be pretty happy with that.
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Exactly that. Exciting highlights but just lacks endurance and consistency. Also hasn’t had much midfield time so there’s that’s improvement/unknown as well. He’s a second round prospect at this stage.
People will want to keep their expectations low and stop dreaming about pick No.2 as that isn't happening IMO.
Other clubs simply have better draft hands than us should North Melbourne auction off pick 2 to the highest bidder.
If we are to trade our future 1st I'd rather start draft night with the potential of walking away with 3 first round selections plus Reef rather than one single top 6 pick plus Reef.
If we only walk away with two live 1st round selections plus Reef owing to a bid so be it.
As the indicative draft order stands now GWS seems the most likely option to trade with.
Our future 1st plus pick 16 for selection 13 & 15 might be all we can hope for and leave us with 13, 14, 15.
Not convinced GWS would even go for that and will be looking to package up their draft picks to move up the draft board before entertaining any other deals.
Other clubs simply have better draft hands than us should North Melbourne auction off pick 2 to the highest bidder.
If we are to trade our future 1st I'd rather start draft night with the potential of walking away with 3 first round selections plus Reef rather than one single top 6 pick plus Reef.
If we only walk away with two live 1st round selections plus Reef owing to a bid so be it.
As the indicative draft order stands now GWS seems the most likely option to trade with.
Our future 1st plus pick 16 for selection 13 & 15 might be all we can hope for and leave us with 13, 14, 15.
Not convinced GWS would even go for that and will be looking to package up their draft picks to move up the draft board before entertaining any other deals.
Pie 4 Life - I think you mentioned Cox earlier as a potential pick for us. Where do you see him playing his best football? Forward or Back?
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