2022 Hawthorn List Management Discussion (including Trade, FA period)

[TylerDurden]

 

[theiaofseed]

Was he officially delisted or just moved off the primary list with the 2020 covid one off rules?

Regardless he wont be going anywhere and if he did it would a top 5 pick in compensation

 

[streetspirit]

The Moore bit from the above

DYLAN MOORE (HAWTHORN)
How much will Hawthorn’s decision to delist then rookie-list Dylan Moore

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Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

at the end of 2020 cost the club given that list decision officially made him a free agent in 2023? Moore went on to enjoy a breakout 2021 that secured him a two-year deal that expires next year. Now the mid-forward will surely secure a premium as a 23-year-old free agent who has kicked 27 and 26 goals in the past two years and shown he can be a bona fide midfielder.
....

He has significant leverage because a club trying to build an elite list absolutely must keep him.
And clubs know full well they almost never find a free agent so young unless they secure that status through being delisted.
Mabior Chol

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Mabior Chol

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

signed a four-year deal worth over $400,000 a season when he won free agency through the same process as a player delisted then rookied by his club. Moore is every bit a $600,000 per season player.

 

[chopflop]

The Moore bit from the above

Simple solution Ralphy. We pay the man

 

[Blackhawk42]

Was he officially delisted or just moved off the primary list with the 2020 covid one off rules?

Regardless he wont be going anywhere and if he did it would a top 5 pick in compensation

Loves the club.

We love him.

Future captain.

We'll pay the man.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

Simple solution Ralphy. We pay the man

It’s not like we don’t have the cap space!! What a nothing story

 

[BurnaHawks]

Simple solution Ralphy. We pay the man

Or we let him go and secure 2 top 4 picks in next years bumper draft..

 

[Hodgey 15]

Just Ralph stirring the pot. It's off season and he needs to fill news space.

 

[KermitJagger]

Weird article because there's close to no chance he leaves, and if he does leave any time soon he'd likely earn us a first rounder tied to our position due to his age and the contract he'd attract.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Really slow news day for the HUN.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Just Ralph stirring the pot. It's off season and he needs to fill news space.

Honestly its typical Ralph being anti-Hawthorn. Don't know if he has ever written or said a positive thing about the Hawks ever.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Honestly its typical Ralph being anti-Hawthorn. Don't know if he has ever written or said a positive thing about the Hawks ever.

He’s written plenty of positive things about Hawthorn. This is just him trying to create a story when there’s not much going on.

 

[PenAndPaper]

He’s written plenty of positive things about Hawthorn. This is just him trying to create a story when there’s not much going on.

Can't say I ever remember one but I guess i'll take your word for it.

 

[MrPremiership]

Surprised this "story" wasn't released on Sunday at 6am



Or held until the Final of the World Cup

 

[cryptor]

I was a bit worried about this when he started playing so well in 2021. But having heard him talk on his own form prior to being delisted and about Sam, his teammates and the club, I sense absolutely no hard feelings nor indications that he would hold the club to ransom.

Many opposition clubs will ask the question and put some pretty enticing offers to him. Ultimately I think he signs on with us longer term on a healthy but fair deal.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Can't say I ever remember one but I guess i'll take your word for it.

He wrote the articles last year about how well we’d handled the trade period. He also went on Hawks Insiders pod and spoke to them about how well he thought Sam and the club had handled the discussions around trading Bruest and Wingard, and how respectful they see of the players wishes once they made their decisions to stay. He then had an interview with Vanders where he put forward that we were on the right track.

He did the same thing this year with Vandenberg.

 

[KermitJagger]

He wrote the articles last year about how well we’d handled the trade period. He also went on Hawks Insiders pod and spoke to them about how well he thought Sam and the club had handled the discussions around trading Bruest and Wingard, and how respectful they see of the players wishes once they made their decisions to stay. He then had an interview with Vanders where he put forward that we were on the right track.

He did the same thing this year with Vandenberg.

I'll give Ralphy one thing, he's one-eyed Richmond but he's not necessarily anti any club.

 

[number23]

Or we let him go and secure 2 top 4 picks in next years bumper draft..

Is Moore a restricted free agent or an unrestricted free agent - does anyone know?

In the end, if he had not played that blinder against GCS in the last round, he would have been just de-listed and I doubt that anyone would have picked him up. He turned it around and the club was impressed. Let's hope that he rewards the club that gave him another chance.

 

[MrPremiership]

Is Moore a restricted free agent or an unrestricted free agent - does anyone know?

In the end, if he had not played that blinder against GCS in the last round, he would have been just de-listed and I doubt that anyone would have picked him up. He turned it around and the club was impressed. Let's hope that he rewards the club that gave him another chance.

Unrestricted. He's been delisted once in his career, so he's an UFA every time he's out of contract.

That's the one risk of delisting to re-rookie.....

 

[Yardie]

Clarkson just hasn't learnt in bringing cross Shiels and Howe

I can understand the Shiels decision (setting standards and all that), but Howe has me flummoxed.

 

[number23]

Unrestricted. He's been delisted once in his career, so he's an UFA every time he's out of contract.

That's the one risk of delisting to re-rookie.....

Dang. That means we would get zilch.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Dang. That means we would get zilch.

There’s more chance of the Sun falling out of our orbit than Dylan Moore leaving Hawthorn.

 

[MrPremiership]

Dang. That means we would get zilch.

Still eligible for compo




But he's not leaving...

 

[number23]

Still eligible for compo




But he's not leaving...

Oh true but not as much as a trade and it's reliant on the AFL HQ gods and I would not like to depend on their generosity.

BTW regarding the guys doing a train on with us:

Hawthorn to hand training opportunity to ex-Tiger Patrick Naish, delisted Magpie Callum Brown

The Hawks have one list spot open for 2023.

www.zerohanger.com

I am not excited by any of them. I'd keep any spot available via the MSD. It's been a happy hunting ground for us so far.

 

[FB19]

Still eligible for compo




But he's not leaving...

yep as long as we offer him a fair deal he’s staying it’s clear from hearing him speak he understands why the delisting happened and in many ways it has been the catalyst for his meteoric rise. If I am wrong and he did go this year we get a great pick so really we can’t lose. To be clear want him to stay though…