Prediction Changes: Round 14 Vs Giants + prematch discussion

[Van_Dyke]

Yeh true. We don't play well in Canberra, NT or Hobart.

we literally beat them the last two times we've played them in Canberra, and I think we've only ever played in Hobart once.

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

we literally beat them the last two times we've played them in Canberra, and I think we've only ever played in Hobart once.

Lost to the Sainters in Hobart last game of 2021?

 

[ozzie69]

Have we ever played them at Olympic Park before (Giant stadium)? I have certainly not been there before.

 

[MadMundy]

If that's the case then I apologise MadMundy

Yeah all good mate don't stress, but yes, I was referencing the Carlton supporter that calls into SEN all the time.

 

[MadMundy]

Have we ever played them at Olympic Park before (Giant stadium)? I have certainly not been there before.

We played there in 2016 I think.

 

[SupermanCapes]

A lot of what you say there is reliant upon hefty doses of interpretation (fairly or unfairly). The statement "...some people just hate him regardless" is fairly logically sound based on observable evidence. Although looking at it again the "nah" would fall into the dismissive category.

Yeh no doubt mine was a reaction within context.

My frustration is that there is a weird Banfield/Sturt undercurrent discussion that keeps popping up with the same few people on either side of the aisle.

My view of it is that those that have historically criticised BB's selection (and I'm one of those) have done so on the basis of form, output and what we consider to be preferential treatment compared to others (mainly Sam Sturt). Whether that's right or wrong doesn't really matter.

One response that has been coming up more recently from the other side, as in the case of this comment, has been that anyone criticising Banfield's continued selection isn't a real supporter and/or has a personal problem with him.

I find it to be a really frustrating strawman.

Why would anyone on here be concerned with anything other than his output and ability to help Freo win games? It's not like he's a Rory Lobb type and doing anything to cause people to question his character.

If anyone has examples of posters attacking Banfield as a person please share them and let's skewer the idiots that have gone down that path. I can't think of any examples but I'm happy to engage with specifics.

 

[freo_leo29]

He’s played a handful of games at Hawthorn and is once again sitting in the VFL. He’s now providing Hawthorn with great ruck depth without playing, no different to what he would be doing with us.

Meek has missed 1 game this year

 

[freo_leo29]

And its his fifth season.

He has been on the list plenty long enough to show his credentials.

Missed 3 years with I jury

 

[JammoMonty]

Yeh true. We don't play well in Canberra, NT or Hobart.

Or anywhere it rains

 

[E Shed]

I wonder why they have moved Draper to defense when he played forward as a junior.
I know he’s not in the frame for selection yet but he’s another that could get opportunities next season with injuries & he seems a creative, organized player who could do well as a tall forward.

Seems strange to groom him for defense but maybe he’s bookmarked to understudy Pearce/Cox/Ryan along with Davies but it’s not like we have a plethora of young tall forwards.

 

[greatgatsby]

Giants have beaten us both games in Sydney (when they were the clearly the superior side) and once in Canberra (when they were clearly the superior side). We've won the past two in Canberra (in the dry!), with one of those being in a GF year for them.

We are far better suited to Manuka (particularly dry), so tomorrow is a big test.

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

Missed 3 years with I jury

He's managed to play 36 games of WAFL footy and 9 AFL games -- two seasons worth of footy -- without showing he can nail down a spot.

I hope he makes it, but if you get this far into your career and you are still waiting for your chance to make it, well the odds are low that you do. He is a long way short of a sure thing and other players keep going "woosh" straight past him.

Everyone playing in the forward line ahead of him has shown more at League level than Sam Sturt

 

[freo_leo29]

managed to play 36 games of WAFL footy and 9 AFL games -- two seasons worth of footy

This strengthens my point

He hasn't had the opportunities yet

He is 5 years in but with all the injuries is really only 2 years in

 

[apuchar]

Has anyone said Banfield was a disgrace to the jumper? Addtionally, I'm as much leveraging off their "the players dont care post" from after the game as anything

Think it was the comment from the Carlton supporter. Play for the emblem.

 

[Freomaniac]

How is the likes of Erasmus and Sturt going to get experience if we use this approach though?
We needs to get Erasmus to 50 games ASAP in particular. He’s a top 10 pick and one would assume a key part of the future premiership as we obviously aren’t winning it this year

Yeah Erasmus is a top 10 pick when he gets a drafted.

I'm glad he got handful of games in 2022.

Saying that, we do have experience in the middle.

Yet... I am not fussed if he isn't in the best 23 each week.

At worst he should be rotated and play dockers games every 2nd week as depth.

No issues with Erasmus and Johnson and even Chapman and o Driscoll playing 8-12 games this season.

If younger kids are rotated off the bench well that's good

 

[Freomaniac]

we literally beat them the last two times we've played them in Canberra, and I think we've only ever played in Hobart once.

Yep, last game of the regular season in 2022, beat GWS away in Canberra, and same result and in Canberra in 2019

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeh true. We don't play well in Canberra, NT or Hobart.

It sucked when Freo played GWS every season from 2012-15 in Perth. I would of loved to have played them at least once away in that period to get that token away win.

I know Freo has won on the NT. Taberners debut game in 2013 was in the NT vs demons.

Pavlich pulled out injured.

Freo rarely got games vs North Melbourne in Hobart. Dead certain from 2012 onwards, we would of been good enough to get a win or 2 there.

Glad we beat North Melbourne twice in 2017, even if the away win was on Docklands

 

[DQ 4EVER]

I saw this... why would Chappy be on the plane?

Too far to drive?

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[WilloTree]

This is a hard one to take.

I expect we will see the 'roaches' back.

No concept of time, place or reality.

 

[WilloTree]

Meek has missed 1 game this year

arrghhh.

Context is important.

 

[Taylor]

I wonder why they have moved Draper to defense when he played forward as a junior.
I know he’s not in the frame for selection yet but he’s another that could get opportunities next season with injuries & he seems a creative, organized player who could do well as a tall forward.

Seems strange to groom him for defense but maybe he’s bookmarked to understudy Pearce/Cox/Ryan along with Davies but it’s not like we have a plethora of young tall forwards.

Some believe that it improves a forward to learn the ways they will be shut down, and vice versa. Like sending Serong to defend Taylor Adams. Best seat in the house for the education.

 

[freo1]

Gees we really need to win this game today - it's massive for our finals chances - particularly after losing last week.

Having said that every game is super important, but win this and we'll sneak into 8th for now. If we cant win these sorts of games we're probably not worthy of a finals spot.

Looking at the ladder we'll be equal with 7th & 8th on points, and if Richmond knock of the Saints then we'll be close to moving up another spot.

Wont be easy today at all

 

[jakefooty23]

Have a bad feeling about today. I think there midfield and defense will be too strong today. Hope i'm wrong though.

 

[Vintage]

Have a bad feeling about today. I think there midfield and defense will be too strong today. Hope i'm wrong though.

I’m the same. Having said that though, I’m super nervous about every game we play so I’m not a great judge!

 

[FD2646]

Have a bad feeling about today. I think there midfield and defense will be too strong today. Hope i'm wrong though.

Agree, Taylor and Kelly are massive inclusions for GWS.